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I don't have an account there right now. I do have one problem with them though.
They do not allow an adjective as a name, even if it is your legal name. This rules out any Native Americans with traditional Native American names! Even if it is the name on the birth certificate, they refuse to accept it. That means if you were born Great Elk (as an example, since he is famous and writes under his own name... or did before he passed) you are only allowed an account if you use a pen name. I emailed them even though it is spelled out in their public TOU. They seemed unaware of the ramifications of having published discriminatory policies and didn't care whether it was a real name or not. So while I am sure this new rule enforcement will be better in the long run, they're rules are a bit arbitrary and discriminatory for my taste. & It is only a matter of time before someone brings them up on Federal Discriminatory Civil Rights Violations, so I am not sure it is worth my time to write for someplace whose policies are designed to doom them to extinction sooner or later. Someone who knows him ought to get him to comply with Federal law? Just a thought (But I agree with Steve, it sounds like he wants to have a quality site. I think anyone can agree that is a nobler and better way to go about making money than with junk and Adsense people click just to find a way out of the article! It could be he might just force some to step it up and I would bet in the long run their income will increase. He is probably doing you a favor and you just don't see it yet. He has more than just article guidelines to change though. IMHO.)
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As far as I'm concerned I will take it for what it's worth. I will still use EZA and count on them for some traffic but they are not the only answer. I really don't mind these changes at all, it's their site and they can do what they want. The only laughable part in my opinion is the fact that they ask authors to go back and delete content that has already been approved. They should have thought long and hard about this point, because it's laughable.
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Possibly a bigger slap is coming for Big G soon. It's all about delivering quality content now for the search engine visitor. Article directories that throw up any ole content may find themselves deindexed. | |
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I am sorry to hear about this. I think not being able to use your real name, even if you provided them a fax birth certificate is wrong and if they are in some legal violation, it will come back to haunt them. However, like it or not, it's their site and they can do what they want. If what they want ends up ultimately getting them shut down (either for legal or economical reasons, such as no contributors) then that's their prerogative too. See, in a capitalist society, it all works out in the end. | |
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A simple way to define the quality I think they mean is to always do some kind of fact checking on your subject with credible sources. Don't rely on other people's articles only to provide background info. They should provide some sort of FAQs on exactly what type of quality they want on their directory. | |
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I would suggest perhaps if a Native American with a name like "Running Bear" would submit a birth certificate they would be allowed to write in their name, or at least should be. I am not clear with DogScout if this ever happened or if they just would not accept it arbitrarily. But yes, if they do not, then that is definitely grounds for a lawsuit, etc.
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Excellent advice, Steve. I've learned to do this as well. In fact, article marketers should develop their own homegrown resource list of places they can get reliable information. Here's a tip: Yahoo.com has all kinds of categories that have great information on them about various subjects. Wikipedia is good, also you can visit various newpaper and niche magazines that have websites with journalistic style articles. These are all great for getting facts to add to your own articles. Expand your knowledge base, people. | |
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Answer that and then you have their quality they want.. James P.S. I could be wrong but as I see it .. EZA is nothing more than a adsense farm and they have questionable ethics. P.S.S. Many should spend all this energy on posting articles to directories that care about their authors instead of just complaining here which actually will end up doing no good .... | |
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Hmmm.....I just looked through different categories on ezinearticles, and I'm still seeing articles getting published today by the same authors, that say basically the same thing. AND a lot of them are under 300 words.
HOWEVER.... these articles are all "readable". I think the key here is just to make sure your articles don't have broken english and offer something of value, plus not make them all the same with just a few words changed here and there. Make a genuine effort to make your articles sound somewhat intelligent with some useful info, and not make them carbon copies of each other (i.e. significantly change the wording/paragraphs), and I think you'll be fine. |
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I for one applaud the move by Ezine Articles. Time to clean out the garbage and only keep good articles. I read one article a few months ago that was pure, unadulterated crap. That kind of regurgitated, badly written garbage doesn't do anyone any good. It doesn't help the marketer who wrote it (who is going to click through after reading a steaming pile of codwallop?), it doesn't help EA (they start looking like a directory of little value), and it sure doesn't help the reader (who gets a bunch of useless information).
Yay Ezine Articles. Let's have quality, not quantity. |
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If an article marketer wants purity in their article directory, then they can find that too. I'm pragmatic, so I care more about how effective EZA is for my personal marketing efforts. Also, is it worth my time to follow their rules? Everyone must make their own decision about this. | |
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This has pros and cons im a newbie and when u get past the fluff article marketing is the first clear cut action towards traffic and sales i have been a member for going on two months and have yet to have an article approved!!!! Had me thinking this money online was a big scam. I use articlebase now.
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In the long run this sounds like it will be the best thing that ever happened to a lot of article marketers.
You're having problems submitting articles because others have submitted articles on the same subject and yours get rejected because they have other articles that say the same basic thing. Well, here's your chance to shine. You have to clean the closet out every now and then. How much stale garbage is in that directory, anyway? So they raised the bar...good for them. Good for the internet. Good for the folks who really produce quality content. I say Bravo. I've tried reading some of the junk on there and from my tiny world perspective this looks like it will be a long overdue cleansing. KJ |
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I see, DogScout, thank you for clearing that up. That makes me pretty angry, really. Clearly discriminatory. It seems like you were going to be putting up articles for another person and wanted it in that person's Native American name?
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There might be an issue with content quality which hurts EZA in search engine rankings. Huge portion of their profits comes from adsense and bad content increases bounce rate. Their PR is 6 which is not so good in comparison to some specialized article directories (judging on EZAs age and popularity).
Since article directories became an easy profit sources, build bsicaly by users, the competition increased significantly. On top of that there is the cost of processing the articles due to highly increased service popularity. |
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BUT. . . EZA decided to accept these type of "slim value" articles a long time ago. I believe that this was a business decision on Chris Knight's part. Now, something is up (Big G will no longer tolerate crapola from article directories), so they are clamping down and slapping people. Cool, but let's not pretend that they weren't fine with all sorts of articles just a short while ago. It's funny. When I first started article marketing a few years ago, before BUM marketing blew it up in popularity, I ignored EZA and refused to post my articles there because they charged a fee to post. I said to myself, why should I pay to post an article there when I can post at all these other places for free? I was doing just fine without EZA. Ok, so EZA finally gets a clue that in order to get a lot of people to post articles in their directory, they've gotta drop this fee thing. After they became a free directory, one day I discovered that I had several articles posted on EZA. I was puzzled, because I know I never set up an account there. So I find out that they have automatically set one up for me. How nice of them! They liked my articles so much that they brought me over to their directory . . . I then followed their lead and officially started posting with them. Obviously, they no longer have to go out looking for article authors because of their overwhelming popularity. Right now, I'm still on their good author list. If they should decide to kick me off, then I'll be just fine. My articles thrived before I came to EZA, and thrive online at other places as well. The key is to find a good article directory where other web publishers go to find good, free content - yes, there are still people who want and need free articles for their blogs and websites. | |
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Bingo, But he is making more money now in gambling, so it doesn't matter to me anymore. (Other than the 'attitude' I got at the time)
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These things tend to happen in steps as opposed to slopes. What worked 'just a short while ago' is yesterday's news and doesn't have much relevence today. We all have to get used to things not being the same as they were in the past. And our ability to embrace change is going to need to be brought up to speed, as well. KJ | |
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Fun to Write, so where does your success come from besides ezinearticles? If you could be so kind.
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I went over to EZA to find out what kind of articles they have approved today. Here are some snippets of so-called "quality" articles.
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How many of you think the content is useful on ezine articles? When you need to find something, is EZA your first choice of finding that information? Steve made a good point about this, in saying where people ACTUALLY go to find information.
But then again, we are experienced marketers, so maybe that's why we look all around for the gold. Other people may just click the first thing that comes up, and if someone has played their cards right, it may just be their article from EZA. They also mentioned about how long they are going to keep articles live, and Chris claims that they never said once that they were going to keep any article live for longer than 6 months, so anyone submitting there was gambling from day 1...unless he/she had their time invested elsewhere too. |
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Love the changes, love the challenge. I will still submit 50 articles on one keyword and not get smacked. Natural selection at its finest!
![]() Question to all: what software/service is recommended to submit to the top, say, 20 directories? Article Marketing Automation + UAW take care of all the lowly ones for me, but I need something for the top 20 besides Ezine Articles. ArticleSubmitAuto looks good but I have not received a reply to my PM regarding it's ability to submit to just a few directories at a time (I basically want to untick Ezine Articles, if possible, and do that manually myself). |
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Then I see other stuff that gets approved and I just don't get it. Which is why the latest moves by EA are, I think, long overdue. If someone submits an article to EA or anywhere else that's NOT useful, and it's only a marketing tactic, then that person sucks. They just plain ol' suck. Jay Jennings | |
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I think it's a good move by Ezine at least now we will get rid of all the junk on there. This is good news for real IM who deliver content.
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Mine has not been touched. Quality and being original will keep you honest and safe from the witch hunt. If there is one.
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You own the article you wrote - you can submit to EZA and get six months of free exposure, you can put it on your site and submit to other directories. The complaints about EZA, Squidoo, etc we've seen lately seem to be from those who feel they have a right to use those sites as they want. These are free platforms to use for those willing to adjust to the terms of those sites. The only place online where you have control is on your own domain/site/blog. Using these free platforms to help promote your site makes sense but not if you begin thinking you can also control the free platforms. kay | |
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"High Quality Articles" is just a pompous way to keep selling Snake Oil. As these articles directories do not check the information they publish you can still put crap with good grammar and 1,000 words on them.
I wonder how they were not yet sued due to the "high quality" medical advice you can find on them. I doubt a judge would let them pass as they profit from these contents. It is always good to remind people that EZA is just a glorified and arrogant MFA site, not the end all, be all. |
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EZA Articlesbase Go Articles Isnare - I use their paid distribution I also have a list of secondary article directories that I can post to. I often find that my articles from these directories get posted to websites and blogs. This is great for link juice for my websites (and some traffic as well). | |
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This was long tim coming..People have abused ezinearticles for quite a while..
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After getting almost 3 Million Visitors to my sites, I got to say that this fascination with Ezinearticles is amazing.
If you have good content, put it on your site first. If you look at any other successful site or online business, would they put their best stuff on another site just to get a link? If EZA shut down today, what would happen to all your traffic and links? If they change their rules and remove your articles, what would happen to your sales? I have about 5 content sites that make me a very significant income and if I add up all the articles that I have on my sites, It would total well over 3,000. Some of it is junk and is ranked on the first page of Google. Some of it is great and ranked on the first page of Google. Some of it is just a 50 world blurb and still ranked on the first page of Google. So all this talk about Junk is only relevant if you're trying to follow someone elses rules and make them money. STOP POSTING YOUR BEST STUFF TO EZINEARTICLES.... Grow your own internet business from your site. Ask yourself this question....... If you post an article to your site and in one month it get you 30 visitors OR you post an article to EZA and in one month you get 60 page views and 20 clicks, which one is better? I think you see where I'm going with this. The math just doesn't make sense. I hope this helps somebody out there. |
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That's a rough blow they're dealing to those new article marketers. The dream gets harder.
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To answer your question though Chris Knight is entitled to his opinion too right? And after all, it is his site. Plus that, you cannot blame him for not liking marketers, especially when they are trashing his site. I'm sure if the people who use EZA submitted good content, he would respect them a little more as "marketers". Now I can't tell you how he feels about this next statement I'm going to make, but I have no problem stating it. There is a big difference in being a marketer and being someone who is trying to make quick money. They are not one in the same - they are two different beasts, and the people submitting junk aren't marketers in my book. Good real marketers don't have a problem with being good at what they do. If they have to write, they will do what it takes to sell themselves and their products. They want other people to get something out of it. This way they get a better following. The people who just want to make money have no regard for anything but themselves. They could care less about helping anyone else. Quote:
And as far as PLR goes, this kind of content is okay if rewritten WELL, and limited - not when they are barely touched up or spun and then used or submitted. People should use common sense, but instead they try taking the easiest way out - Not necessarily the best way, but the easiest. In reality, very few people have good vission to see what's up ahead or in the future, or how something will effect (or affect) them in the future or things as a whole. When spinners and junky PLR came around, there was little thought or any vision connected to the plans. I call it short-sightedness. The effects of these types of products didn't just come up and bite the owners on the butt, but they've also bitten us all. To be a good marketer, you have to have a good vision so you can make long term plans, and if or when the environment you are working in changes, you have to adjust or adapt with those changes. It's either that or get eaten by the dog. ![]() Quote:
Jeremy, oh you're just being plain sarcastic. Now how in the heck did you come up with that anology? I most certainly didn't get that from any of his statements. To be honest with you that mentality about upper and lower class will hold you back from seeing many possibilities. No one is bigger or smaller. And nothing is keeping you from being in the same arena as him or anyone else. People take things differently from each other, and yes, you have a right to disagree, but if you continue to carry that chip, that burden will get heavier and weigh you down. I for one would rather see you become what you have shown you can become. YOU ARE BETTER THAN THAT! ![]() Mary | |||
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I'm not carrying a chip...because I could care less what EZA does ![]() I've never said that I think what he is doing is wrong - I just don't care for what he says. I'll take the whole discussion a step further though... For those of you saying that you write "good content" so, you will have no issue... What you think is great content isn't so good to the next guy. I truly believe that half of the editors there may very well be half illiterate. I'll admit that I in the past submitted a ton of content to EZA and some of it wasn't exactly well researched But, even today, articles being approved left and right with sentences and paragraphs that read like they were written by a 2 year old with Kevin Rileys whiskey in their bottle.
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Sorry for those who are affected, but in my opinion, this is good news for those who have been committed to providing value all along. IMHO it was bound to happen sooner or later - it's part of the natural evolution of the web.
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I really cannot see what is wrong with writing better articles with good original content. If EZine want to clean up the directory, well good for them.
Now reading all those comments makes me wonder about one thing: if there are so many other directories out there why worry? |
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Last time I heard, EZA delivered more traffic than the other TOP 10 article directories combined.This may be the reason why people are bothered, because the traffic and benefits they can get from ezine articles alone may not be matched by their competitors. Another thing, is that Ezine Articles is literally now asking many people to write 450+ word articles. In competitive niches, and virtually any niche this can be a problem to an internet MARKETER. From a writer's point of view, yes content is being added, etc... But from a marketer's point of view, this may decrease click through's and conversions, because there is so much to read. We all go through those moments where we see a long post, or something long and we go ..."aaaah... it's so long". And guess what? Most people won't in fact read it and will move on. That doesn't mean that the content was bad, or that the person writes in a boring manner. Simply something to do with our human nature. People take information best in short bursts. If you were to look at any sales page, you don't see too many huge paragraphs these days, they are all small 2-3 sentences. This may also be a reason why it's not ideal to someone who wants to market a product. But as someone else said, don't market and don't try to sell something, but rather get into the person's shoes and simply try to answer and solve their problem. Another person pointed out here as well, some of the content STILL getting into Ezine Articles with bad grammar and english. Which makes me believe that they are simply cracking down on people who are more effective at marketing, and not those who cannot write at all. I say this, because some niches were really flooded with competition. Now they are attacking everyone who submits to these niches, or more so... people who have submitted MORE to these niches. Anyone else seems to still be getting in fine, and doing fine... even if they are literally writing garbage, as some people above have pointed out. So who is the WAR ON? US. Even the title of their blog says "our war with AFFILIATE marketers". This is US, our group of people. Not anyone else, but US. Ezine articles claims to be AT war, with everyone who is an affiliate marketer... that's the problem, my friend. Now, I CHALLENGE everyone who posts after me, to tell me if you even read my entire post, or this entire thread for that matter? People don't have time to sit there reading so much either, they get bored fast even in the most interesting things... If you need a great example of this, just look around on this forum. | |
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OMG!!! Just move on already ... I cannot get over the fact that this is still going on..
Very interesting thread, I had a huge laugh... Fact is though all this energy put into a thread complaining about EZA many of you could have been working on your business and posting other articles to other places and getting traffic and making sales.. If you do not like how someone runs their website then -----> | there is the door use it and move on ... James |
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![]() I agree. This whining is so counter productive that it's almost criminal. No wonder 97% of the people who try to make money online fail. They spend all their time bitching about how hard it is. | |
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3 pages of this craziness... I can't believe that anyone running their own business would put so much weight into EZA to make it such a problem if they got "banned".. If you got "banned" from EZA....It'd be a blessing in disguise to most people, they just don't realise it.. Do yourself a favour.. buy domains like sweeties and submit content to them instead, your building assets!! Peace to y'all Jay |
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