Ezine Articles Is banning Like Crazy, Are YOU Next?

[tmitchison]

Does anybody else find it funny that they only want their ideal members to submit articles on penis enlargement?

Lol how exactly would they determine who was legitimate to write about this?

The only concern of mine is that I have been waiting on 2 different accts to be upgraded for nearly 2 weeks now. The niche is not one of these currently under fire, and the articles are all (according to their description of such) good content.

I understand they are busy playing Operation Ninja Nazi or whatever they call it, but thats no reason to take a dump on people who actually do what they ask. Maybe Im just too needy

[Kelly Verge]

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Do yourself a favour.. buy domains like sweeties and submit content to them instead, your building assets!!

Jay

Jay, the issue is that they want quality articles on their own blogs as opposed to the junk they submit to EZA.

(Side note: I find it humorous that the same person who staunchly defended her 700-articles-in-seven-days position is upset by EZA's position on article quality...)

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

Jay, the issue is that they want quality articles on their own blogs as opposed to the junk they submit to EZA.

(Side note: I find it humorous that the same person who staunchly defended her 700-articles-in-seven-days position is upset by EZA's position on article quality...)

Hello Sir,

1. It wasn't my thread to begin with. I just said it can be done, as many others have.

2. I never said that I was upset by anything here, or even the quality position. I simply stated something for a discussion, and everyone sure has been discussion it. If you were to read my other posts in this thread, you would come to know my stance.

But since no one reads between the lines, and they simply make assumptions, I will leave you to it.

I am not banned, nor are any of my articles removed. I hadn't said that I was, read the original post, it's a GENERAL topic. I guess I wasn't clear about it?

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To Susan M, who said that they now want people to write about those things, that is incorrect, as the original statement said they would be finely filtering articles which go into that niche, and he listed other "hot" niches which were next on the list.

Does anybody else find it funny that they only want their ideal members to submit articles on penis enlargement?

They allow people to submit on any niche, but as mentioned, the niches listed above will have a hard crack down, wherein anyone who DOES submit to those niches during this time, could risk being a part of this crackdown, and thus getting their articles rejected.

There have also been people who were told not to write on a certain topic/subject, where-in ezine articles has told them not to write on that niche at all, and any articles submitted in that niche from them would automatically be rejected, basically.

I had shown a reference to this, in the original post, where some people are asked not to write on a specific niche.

So to Kelly Verge, what does such a thing tell you then? If these people who are being told this by EZA write the best quality article, but simply because EZA cannot handle anything from certain niches, they are basically SOL.

Kindof like how Squidoo and other websites banned certain topics. One bad egg can ruin it for everyone sometimes... and a few bad eggs have done this on EZA.

[susanm]

I quoted that paragraph straight from their blog. I didn't say they now want people to write about penis enlargement. I said they only want their ideal members to write about it. Aside from the obvious pun, it just seems funny to me that their idea of quality is a darn good penis enlargement article.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by susanm

from Something Unexpected:

"Our next big pass at curbing low-value content submissions will come in the form of banning certain types of content that are currently in too high of market supply (think “Acai berry” type articles) and other commonly spammed articles with highly derivative content (think penis enlargement, get your ex back, dating articles, some types of finance articles). We’ve been slow to reach this point because we’re looking for ways to allow legitimate good ideal members to submit content on these topics while singling out the gamers who only want to submit really thin low value content."

Does anybody else find it funny that they only want their ideal members to submit articles on penis enlargement?

Ok let's try this again,....

They said they will ban and filter out alot of content which comes from heavily populated niches. This means, that penis enlargement was the first one they began filtering out, and started banning alot of articles in this niche.

They also will begin doing such in other niches, as the "hot" niches contain most of the JUNK content they were talking about.

[susanm]

Okay, again, "we’re looking for ways to allow legitimate good ideal members to submit content on these topics."

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by susanm

Okay, again, "we’re looking for ways to allow legitimate good ideal members to submit content on these topics."

I get you now. I think they were referring to the topics they were cracking down on specifically, as some people may take what they said...(coughs) as in a ban for everyone. For now it's safe to write on other topics and no problems, but these topics are causing issues, and are where most of the bad traffic generates from.

So they want to clean this up, and they can only do this by banning and heavily filtering out. They won't remove these topics just yet, as they get the most views and most traffic for EZA in general (moolah for them), and in the end, then, they will ask what they said above.

But your point is good too, now that I get it cheez...

[susanm]

Might as well find the humor in this when we can. ;-)

[cherylwright]

I used to really like Ezine Articles. A couple of months ago they refused to publish one of my article because in one of my articles -- wait for it -- I told people how to use 404 pages to earn money.

They rejected it, I complained. After several emails back and forth the senior editor told me the article was rejected because I was telling people to do something that wasn't legitimate. Here are her exact words:

"promotion of the use of 404 Page for profits is deceitful to the end users".

I made a personal complaint to Chris Knight, because as I told him, millions of marketers use this method, and it isn't up to his editor to decide I'm using "deceitful" methods.

He promised to look into it personally and get back to me in a few days. I'm still waiting at least six weeks down the track.

I've not bothered with them since.



Cheryl

Originally Posted by cherylwright

I used to really like Ezine Articles. A couple of months ago they refused to publish one of my article because in one of my articles -- wait for it -- I told people how to use 404 pages to earn money.

They rejected it, I complained. After several emails back and forth the senior editor told me the article was rejected because I was telling people to do something that wasn't legitimate. Here are her exact words:

"promotion of the use of 404 Page for profits is deceitful to the end users".

I made a personal complaint to Chris Knight, because as I told him, millions of marketers use this method, and it isn't up to his editor to decide I'm using "deceitful" methods.

He promised to look into it personally and get back to me in a few days. I'm still waiting at least six weeks down the track.

I've not bothered with them since.



Cheryl

Hey cheryl,
Yep know what you mean, that is about when I fell out with them. I had an article "approved" 2 days later was rejected becuase it had the word "spinner" it in..

I was told that was unethical methods and eza did not allow those type of articles in their directory. So I sent an email also and also sent them some articles that I knew was spun in their directory. Basically I asked how is the word "spinner" unethical when they had spun articles in their directory.

I am still waiting for a reply... That was months ago.

My article was 100% unique and not spun, it just mentioned the word spinner.

James

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Hey cheryl,
Yep know what you mean, that is about when I fell out with them. I had an article "approved" 2 days later was rejected becuase it had the word "spinner" in it

James

Yup, like I said, the war is on US, not anyone else. Other people can get their junk through, we put in real hand written/typed articles, which we thought about and spent time to create... and get them rejected, removed, and even banned.

This is exactly what I meant in the first place...I'm not whining about their so called crack down on "quality content", because if they had ACTUALLY been doing this the entire time, everything would have been fine.

But instead, they point the finger at internet marketers and say "hey, there's a bunch of wise guys... let's get them!". The real people, who can be found all over their website, are actually still submitting.

Then Chris claims that, well if they have a ghost writer, etc... and are not caught, then they have fine content, but once again, as others have pointed out, one can easily find useless articles with bad grammar and english on there.

The other day, I saw an article which was exactly 255 words in a hot niche. The article was supposed to be telling people who to repair something, but said nothing of the sort. Instead, it was like 4 introduction paragraphs babbling on, and that was it.

That was approved. Other people literally come in there with 500 word, clear articles, and Ezines says "no" to them. Did I mention yet, that the editor's starting wage is $10 an hour? That may also be a part of it.

[Paxton]

It's been said already so at the risk of repetition:

Why the big fuss???

If the amount of effort involved in preparing your articles to the quality / word count / whatever EA want's is counter-productive, use a different directory. Plenty of them around.

Yes, they might be seen to be nitpicking, but then again, we've probably all done that with our own sites or blogs. Hands up anybody who's ever moderated a comment on one of their blogs. Same thing.

I get loads of spammy, c**p comments on my blogs and I remove these. My personal choice is to remove comments that go against my clearly posted TOS and preferences. I don't feel I have to make any apologies to people trying to post c**p on my blogs. Operative word there being MY.

If EA decide they will only accept articles of 10,000 words written in Latin, well that's their right. My right to decide if I want to learn Latin or submit my articles so alternative directories.

One thing I don't like is the retroactive grading of articles. It hasn't affected me but it might well in the future. Enforce new quality rules by all means, but don't backdate things.

Again though, it's their directory and they can pretty much do as they please.

For the time being at least, my gains from EA outweigh the effort involved, so I still use them.

[DougBarger]

My question... Since when did 10,000 members x's $97/mo become roughly only $100,000/mo?

Isn't it a little closer to roughly [Dr. Evil laugh] One Million ($1,000,000.00) ?

And if not, then how much, roughly, is $9.70 x's 10,000 members a month? ;-)

[cherylwright]

Originally Posted by Paxton

It's been said already so at the risk of repetition:

Why the big fuss???

Hi Paxton,

The 'big fuss' is that we're the people who bring income to them. They accept c**p articles all the time, but when they're faced with good quality articles, they pick the s**t out of them. why?

I do think they're picking on marketers. I have about a dozen articles on the craft of writing on that site, but not one of them has even been rejected or questioned. The second I add marketing articles, the trouble begins.

Interesting don't you think?




Cheryl

[WinsonYeung]

Damn it, I hate the EZA rules and their upgrade. Although it's a good move from EZA to ensure that their articles are high quality at the expense of making it harder for us internet marketer to earn $$$

[marioilking]

I have had several articles regarding PLR refused by EZA lately. They stated that PLR was against their rules. Yet a quick search on their site for PLR brings up a multitude of articles.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by marioilking

I have had several articles regarding PLR refused by EZA lately. They stated that PLR was against their rules. Yet a quick search on their site for PLR brings up a multitude of articles.

A quick search on their website, and you can find articles with tons of cuss words too! F bombs, B bombs ALL approved. You can also find horrible grammar, and articles which DO NOT represent what the title says.

You can also find, as James pointed out, articles which have been spun, poorly ghost written, and other things. Just like I have been saying, I'm not whining about their new rules, heck that's fine.

I am pointing out their war against us.

[System Wide Solutions]

i say penalize the **** out of crappy content. it's a good thing.

i don't write my own articles for ezine or any external sites for that matter. but when i hire out freelance, i have a few guidelines:

500+ words
quality writing (must be in good english no broken english or bad grammar)
original content (it cannot be rehashed stuff that is already out there)

Yes, these are really basic concepts, but so far I've had every article approved. I pay a little more to get the articles, but they stick around, and they bring in quality traffic.

What you put out, becomes your image. So why would you want to look like crap?

[WinsonYeung]

Agree with that especially your image part
You have a huge profile photo over there <=====

Originally Posted by ThePassiveIncomeBlog.com

i say penalize the **** out of crappy content. it's a good thing.

i don't write my own articles for ezine or any external sites for that matter. but when i hire out freelance, i have a few guidelines:

500+ words
quality writing (must be in good english no broken english or bad grammar)
original content (it cannot be rehashed stuff that is already out there)

Yes, these are really basic concepts, but so far I've had every article approved. I pay a little more to get the articles, but they stick around, and they bring in quality traffic.

What you put out, becomes your image. So why would you want to look like crap?

Originally Posted by acrasial

Yup, like I said, the war is on US, not anyone else. Other people can get their junk through, we put in real hand written/typed articles, which we thought about and spent time to create... and get them rejected, removed, and even banned.

This is exactly what I meant in the first place...I'm not whining about their so called crack down on "quality content", because if they had ACTUALLY been doing this the entire time, everything would have been fine.

But instead, they point the finger at internet marketers and say "hey, there's a bunch of wise guys... let's get them!". The real people, who can be found all over their website, are actually still submitting.

Then Chris claims that, well if they have a ghost writer, etc... and are not caught, then they have fine content, but once again, as others have pointed out, one can easily find useless articles with bad grammar and english on there.

The other day, I saw an article which was exactly 255 words in a hot niche. The article was supposed to be telling people who to repair something, but said nothing of the sort. Instead, it was like 4 introduction paragraphs babbling on, and that was it.

That was approved. Other people literally come in there with 500 word, clear articles, and Ezines says "no" to them. Did I mention yet, that the editor's starting wage is $10 an hour? That may also be a part of it.

That's ok I just blew a few authors well written articles on EZA out of position #1 and kicked them down to #6 because I hold positions #1, #3, #5

And it took a whole 2 hours .... Wow image that ...

Oh and that is from a brand new article I just written - 2 hours for the whole process and I have not even "distributed" the article yet...

James

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by ThePassiveIncomeBlog.com

What you put out, becomes your image. So why would you want to look like crap?

Pretend I am EZA right now, and I just come to you and ask you to remove some of your older articles, and take away your status, and also tell you that your future submissions may be banned under certain topics.

What about your quality content now? Obviously people here are not INTENTIONALLY trying to make themselves look bad. Look at James above...look at Cheryl, who wrote quality articles, but were refused. Look at Steve Even, he was "banned" randomly out of nowhere! I am sure there are many people with similar stories, who are not mentioning it, simply because as you say, it makes them look like "crap".

Then people would start suggesting that the person didn't write good, where in, if you take a look around at the posts in here, do these people look like the kind who really don't take their work seriously? I doubt it.

This is what has been going on in the sidelines, from what it sounds like, for some time now. Then they decided to really crack down on "Affiliate marketers", and there are others who may not be affiliate marketers, who have also had issues.

So all I am saying is that they let your articles in, right? Now imagine them suddenly saying those articles are no good, and you should remove them...regardless of the word count, or who wrote them.

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

That's ok I just blew a few authors well written articles on EZA out of position #1 and kicked them down to #6 because I hold positions #1, #3, #5

And it took a whole 2 hours .... Wow image that ...

Oh and that is from a brand new article I just written - 2 hours for the whole process and I have not even "distributed" the article yet...

James

I can imagine it, there are "monopolies", but there are people who are more clever than the "monopolies" who get in there. Fantastic.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by DougBarger

My question... Since when did 10,000 members x's $97/mo become roughly only $100,000/mo?

Isn't it a little closer to roughly [Dr. Evil laugh] One Million ($1,000,000.00) ?

And if not, then how much, roughly, is $9.70 x's 10,000 members a month? ;-)

Everyone keeps saying the 97$ per month, but I think this is silly as well. The higher the prices go, (if you are really going to be using this monthly), then get the 3 month one or the 500$ one. IT saves you money in the end, if you know you are going to be constantly paying each month.

If a person is not, and won't get their 97$ back either (as in from the article marketing itself), then I have to wonder what kind of financial planning and budgeting this person learned previously?

Sure it seems like alot, but we are internet marketers, if someone wants their articles speeded through the "approval" process, then it's simply their patience that they are PAYING for. I doubt they have that many people paying, although I am sure it's quite a few, and recently (since they "FIRED" some), less.

But, if they made their entire site "paid status", that doesn't solve their problem either, because as Chris claimed, some "writers" got really clever and started pumping through the junk, sneakily.

What was even more sneaky, was that they were able to do this and get it past THE EDITORS. Imagine that! I wonder if people are sleeping on the job sometimes.

[cherylwright]

Originally Posted by ThePassiveIncomeBlog.com

What you put out, becomes your image. So why would you want to look like crap?

None of this has to do with quality.

When I joined EZA I had like two articles - they emailed and said because of the quality they elevated my status to platinum (I think it was platinum - a high level anyway).

I'm a professional writer, and all my articles are high quality. This is not about quality, it's about marketers being targeted because we're marketers.

I had no issues with any of my articles until I added a marketing bio and began writing articles that were targeted at marketers instead of writers.

That told me a lot.

Like I said before, we're bringing them revenue. People come to their site, click the Google Ads and they get adsense income. Without their authors, they lose revenue. They need people like us - so why are they being so petty?





Cheryl

[bravo75]

Originally Posted by acrasial

This is funny. (the above).

On a completely different note:

I notice on here that every time a thread is posted, and people enjoy it's topic, once it gets to page 3, people start hating the topic. Not only this, but everyone comes in and starts telling how useless the thread is suddenly, and then some people even throw in a few videos. All of you sat here partaking in it, so not sure why you are complaining.

Likewise with the Ezine Articles problem, everyone sat there at one point and time partaking in a relationship with them as well, and are now complaining about something or rather related.

Maybe some are NOT complaining about being banned, but they are complaining about the competition, or about crappy articles they see getting passed through, or about weird guidelines being put in place, or about the people complaining about EZA... either way someone's still complaining.

It sure does get old, but I enjoyed the thread, regardless. I love how others always come in and say "imagine if you had worked" or "written an article with these books".

People will do what they want to do. If they damn want to write an article for themselves, the sure will. If they want to come get some entertainment, they will do that as well.

Now back to EZA, alot of people are saying to BOYCOTT it, or simply back up their articles elsewhere (on their own website, blog etc...), and others are saying not to put their eggs into one basket. I hope then, that someone at least got something out of this thread, aside from thinking it's stupid, even after they sat in here and argued.

There are many options here, for anyone who hates, loves, or simply doesn't care about Ezine Articles, and everyone can take what they like from this.

At the end of the day, it's still someone ELSE'S website, not your own.... so no one can REALLY complain when the rules change, or their articles disappear... and even if Ezine Articles got slapped- NO ONE can complain, because it's not their website.

It's like going into someone else's home, sleeping there, maybe you pay rent too (platinum membership). You eat there, live there and are fine. A few roomates make a problem, and then they end up accidentally burning the entire house down.

Now none of you have a place to live, so what are you going to go back to the land lord and complain then? or are you going to go find a damn place to live which YOU own?

For someone who doesn' t like complaints, you sure complain a lot. That should give you something to complain about

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by bravo75

For someone who doesn' t like complaints, you sure complain a lot. That should give you something to complain about

Thank you so much! I love your enthusiasm for the topic at hand, glad to be a part of your day.

Originally Posted by cherylwright

When I joined EZA I had like two articles - they emailed and said because of the quality they elevated my status to platinum (I think it was platinum - a high level anyway).

What? They emailed you and upgraded you? Wow, and then a slap in the face? Cheez... I would consider that slap in the face then...

Originally Posted by cherylwright

Like I said before, we're bringing them revenue. People come to their site, click the Google Ads and they get adsense income. Without their authors, they lose revenue. They need people like us - so why are they being so petty?

Yup, that is exactly the point here, and some people aer not only brining them revenue, but are also PAID members, so that's a double whammy for "revenue". But of course, it's a CHOICE as of now to be a "paid member", but it doesn't get one any more privileges than other writers, at the end of the day...

Because one's articles could be removed, rejected etc... regardless of the status.

Originally Posted by acrasial

I can imagine it, there are "monopolies", but there are people who are more clever than the "monopolies" who get in there. Fantastic.

Correction I just took over 1, 2, 3 positions ...LOL

Hey this is fun ... Sorry to the poor dudes articles on EZA that is no longer in position #1

James

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Correction I just took over 1, 2, 3 positions ...LOL

Hey this is fun ... Sorry to the poor dudes articles on EZA that is no longer in position #1

James

Give me some of what you are having (motivation wise), I really need a huge dose of it! Having fun are we? Yup, your solution seems to really work, and I have seen some of your other talks/threads/suggestions on the subject as well.

Poor Chris...what a night mare this is for him... While marketers are having fun... he is ripping his hair out.

Originally Posted by acrasial

Give me some of what you are having (motivation wise), I really need a huge dose of it! Having fun are we? Yup, your solution seems to really work, and I have seen some of your other talks/threads/suggestions on the subject as well.

Poor Chris...what a night mare this is for him... While marketers are having fun... he is ripping his hair out.

He He .. Yep I am having a grand ol time... EZA is going crazy, Article Marketer is out of business and I am having fun taking over top listings ..

Gee what a wonderful way to start the weekend. When EZA starts losing more top listings maybe some will get the idea that they are not the king of the hill ... Sure they got more money than I do, sure they got more traffic than I do.

But I got something they don't - Low overhead and I can sit here all day knocking off top positions.

James

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by cherylwright

Hi Paxton,

The 'big fuss' is that we're the people who bring income to them. They accept c**p articles all the time, but when they're faced with good quality articles, they pick the s**t out of them. why?

I do think they're picking on marketers. I have about a dozen articles on the craft of writing on that site, but not one of them has even been rejected or questioned. The second I add marketing articles, the trouble begins.

Interesting don't you think?




Cheryl

You've already got the solution. You mention your articles about the "craft of writing" being accepted without any problems. Nobody says marketing articles don't have to follow the same principles of good writing. I've got over 100 articles in EA, all for the purpose of selling stuff and none of them have even been rejected.

The email from EA about "Substantive Articles" sent to all registered members outlines what they want to see. You're probably applying all these already in your "craft of writing" series, which are probably there to make sales about something.

Apply the same principles to articles in a different niche and you won't have any problems with EA.

Yes we do bring income to them, but that's a two-way street. EA sends a fair bit of traffic to my sites and a percentage of that traffic converts into dollars in my affiliate accounts.

If the only point of the relationship was generating income for EA, why bother?

Simple position really. Stop using EA or continue to submit articles there. For the time being they are an important element of my business. If it gets to be too much of a pain in the rear-end, then I won't use them anymore.

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

He He .. Yep I am having a grand ol time... EZA is going crazy, Article Marketer is out of business and I am having fun taking over top listings ..

Gee what a wonderful way to start the weekend. When EZA starts losing more top listings maybe some will get the idea that they are not the king of the hill ... Sure they got more money than I do, sure they got more traffic than I do.

But I got something they don't - Low overhead and I can sit here all day knocking off top positions.

James

Come on James - let's see your new top 1,2,3 rankings!

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Come on James - let's see your new top 1,2,3 rankings!

Sorry dude no can do ... If I did that then others could just do what I do ...

It is documented.

James

[cherylwright]

Originally Posted by Paxton

You've already got the solution. You mention your articles about the "craft of writing" being accepted without any problems. Nobody says marketing articles don't have to follow the same principles of good writing. I've got over 100 articles in EA, all for the purpose of selling stuff and none of them have even been rejected.

All my articles follow the same principals whether they are marketing articles or writing articles.

They are all written to inform, and to bring traffic to my sites - nothing more, nothing less.

It's only the marketing articles (for a marketing site) that have been an issue. None of the others have ever been questioned or rejected, nor have I been asked to tweak any of them.

But you know what annoys me more? That Chris promised to look into the discrepancy and contact me again in a few days but never did.

To me, that's unforgiveable.





Cheryl

[cherylwright]

Originally Posted by acrasial

What? They emailed you and upgraded you? Wow, and then a slap in the face? Cheez... I would consider that slap in the face then...

These two actions happened at least a year apart (and probably more like two), so not quite the slap they could have been.





Cheryl

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by cherylwright

But you know what annoys me more? That Chris promised to look into the discrepancy and contact me again in a few days but never did.

To me, that's unforgiveable.

You know *HE* may also BE on this very FORUM. (HINT HINT). So perhaps he will see how unfortunate the situation has turned...

[Allen Graves]

Cheryl,

In all fairness, he is a very busy person. I have had emails fall throughthe cracks before too. But when the person sent me another email as a reminder, I dropped everything and responded to them...knowing I had dropped the ball.

Did you ever send him a follow up email? Maybe he did look into it and had an answer for you - but simply forgot to respond to you. It happens.

Allen

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Did you ever send him a follow up email? Maybe he did look into it and had an answer for you - but simply forgot to respond to you. It happens.

Things sure got personal, right? Man, Poor guy... and she said its' UNFORGIVABLE. But true, we do forget to do things, sometimes.

[TheGodfather]

Originally Posted by DougBarger

My question... Since when did 10,000 members x's $97/mo become roughly only $100,000/mo?

Isn't it a little closer to roughly [Dr. Evil laugh] One Million ($1,000,000.00) ?

And if not, then how much, roughly, is $9.70 x's 10,000 members a month? ;-)

ups...i left out a zero.... *goes and stands in the corner*

[chrisknight]

Originally Posted by cherylwright

But you know what annoys me more? That Chris promised to look into the discrepancy and contact me again in a few days but never did.
To me, that's unforgiveable. Cheryl

Cheryl,

Please forgive me.

You contacted me when I was out of the office on August 21st. I promised that I'd look into the situation on Saturday August 22nd and get back to you by Tuesday of the following week or August 25th.

We had a management discussion about your situation and I wrongly assumed someone on our team was going to respond to you. The person who I thought was responding to you on this issue thought I was responding and left a note on your account that an email was sent. We both dropped the ball and it's my fault for not making certain that your email received a response. Sorry.

My apologies again. A private email was sent to you a minute ago.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by cherylwright

All my articles follow the same principals whether they are marketing articles or writing articles.

They are all written to inform, and to bring traffic to my sites - nothing more, nothing less.

It's only the marketing articles (for a marketing site) that have been an issue. None of the others have ever been questioned or rejected, nor have I been asked to tweak any of them.

But you know what annoys me more? That Chris promised to look into the discrepancy and contact me again in a few days but never did.

To me, that's unforgiveable.





Cheryl

Cheryl, I have known Chris now for several years. He is one of the most
upstanding people I know, at least in my opinion. If he didn't get back to
you, it wasn't an intentional slight. As you can see by his response above,
it was just one of those things where there was a miscommunication.

It happens.

Unforgivable?

I hope for your sake that you never make a mistake in your life that you
have to be forgiven for.

[acrasial]

Wow that most certainly was not surprising...not one bit. But see Cheryl, just as I said.

Now isn't that service, when you aren't looking for it!

[Bev Clement]

I agree with Steven, Chris is a great guy, and yes it is possible to make mistakes, we all do.

What I find amusing about this thread is certain people claim to be newbies, yet have been posting to EZA and making a killing each month (or so they would have us believe). Yet they seem to know all about what happens, and seems to have access to all the people who gripe about EZA and yet don't do anything. Maybe, just maybe its because they are in the niches which are going to be dropped, and if that's the case they lose their income.

James what have you been up to.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

What I find amusing about this thread is certain people claim to be newbies, yet have been posting to EZA and making a killing each month (or so they would have us believe). Yet they seem to know all about what happens, and seems to have access to all the people who gripe about EZA and yet don't do anything. Maybe, just maybe its because they are in the niches which are going to be dropped, and if that's the case they lose their income.

I wonder who this refers to? , but as mentioned, anyone who is SERIOUSLY affected by this, probably wouldn't admit that publicly...as a lot of people may take that person as someone who had bad content.

But still, I am not surprised here either with what was just said.

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

I agree with Steven, Chris is a great guy, and yes it is possible to make mistakes, we all do.

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Yesh, but I figured something would get him into here one way or another. But like I said before, "poor guy".

Wondering how he deals with all of this stuff? Seems to be alot to have to deal with, just from one website, and as I understand he has a few? Has a good attitude, for someone who has to see a bunch of c**p quite often.

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All aside, this thread just became hilarious to me. Chris walks in, everyone goes "OHHH what a great guy", and just before it was a different story.

Others were JUST waiting to comment on this one. Loved it.

[Bev Clement]

Or maybe some of us have only just got to this thread and saw Chris posting. Some of us were at the warrior event, and didn't bother to read the forum, and have been traveling since and only posting on certain threads.

Some of us know Chris, and have a business relationship with him, not just through EZA, so your comment about "poor guy" is so condescending, especially as you don't know him. But, a nice try to try and find out his business model and how he deals with stuff. If you need to know that badly, why not contact him and ask.

But, it's good to know you know exactly our motives and how we act and feel.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

But, it's good to know you know exactly our motives and how we act and feel.

Not sure about WE, but I could definitely understand how YOU feel about me.

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Tina: Yesh, Ma'am, I do for the second one, but not the first! Why not have a good discussion about something for once, at least that's what occurred.

Oh, and I never said everyone, I said "others". Never said that there weren't people sticking up for EZA already in this thread. IT was people saying yay, or nay.

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

James what have you been up to.

Oh getting into trouble, having fun, enjoying life ...lol

Actually my head hurts but thanks for asking .. - How are things in your corner of the world ?

James

[Bev Clement]

James, my corner of the world is your corner of the world as we are in the US at the moment.

Acrasial, interesting as you have no idea of my thoughts, so quit trying to guess them.

The way you are posting shows you think you know how we all feel and think, take a look back at some of them.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Of course you did - I quoted directly from your post...lol.

Tina

It's true, everyone literally DID say this after he came in, as no one else had really talked since then (about the topic being discussed before he walked in). Kindof shut people up, so to speak. That was what I had meant, and most certainly that was a fantastic moment...don't you think?

Before my words get twisted: *excluding myself.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by acrasial

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All aside, this thread just became hilarious to me. Chris walks in, everyone goes "OHHH what a great guy", and just before it was a different story.

Others were JUST waiting to comment on this one. Loved it.

Yeah, sure looks like everyone to me.

For the record, if you read my previous posts on this subject, I never once
said one bad word about Chris.

The only negative thing I said about EZA in all of this is that they allowed
those crappy articles into their system in the first place so for that they
have nobody to blame but themselves.

But...Chris is NOW trying to clean up the joint and he's explained why. The
explanation makes perfect sense to me. Hell, if it was MY directory I'd do
the same thing and probably more. In fact, in one of my posts I said
exactly what I would do if it was my directory.

One thing I am not is a cheerleader. I call a spade a spade and will do it
to the person's face. It's what's ended up getting me banned from this
forum for a week. People who know me know that I do NOT mince my
words.

Chris is a great guy. He's done some things in regard to running his directory,
that in hindsight he probably wishes he hadn't done. But that doesn't make
him bad.

It just makes him human like all the rest of us.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Yeah, sure looks like everyone to me.

It just makes him human like all the rest of us.

I said that everyone, after HIM posting, was saying how great of a guy he was- whereas the TOPIC before hand sure wasn't as great. I never said you said that, I never said Tina said that, or Bev. This was put into my mouth, as all of you had something good to say AFTER.

I am talking about the atmosphere of the thread before and after he posted, that was what I had meant.

If this is still misunderstood, then I cannot help it then, and I guess I will just simply shutup, as that seems to be what people would like now (from me). That's the drift I have gotten.

[Bev Clement]

Originally Posted by acrasial

It's true, everyone literally DID say this after he came in, as no one else had really talked since then (about the topic being discussed before he walked in). Kindof shut people up, so to speak. That was what I had meant, and most certainly that was a fantastic moment...don't you think?

Before my words get twisted: *excluding myself.

In that case why didn't you say what you meant, and not expect everybody to be a mind reader.

Or maybe some of us don't have a problem with what EZA is doing, and are willing to let those who post crappy articles, in crappy niches, whine and bitch because they can't have things their own way.

This wasn't a great discussion but an opportunity for people to complain because they don't want to play by Chris' rules.

If people don't like them, go elsewhere