Ezine Articles Is banning Like Crazy, Are YOU Next?

[Kay King]

If this is still misunderstood, then I cannot help it then, and I guess I will just simply shutup, as that seems to be what people would like now (from me). That's the drift I have gotten.

It's not the topic or the complaint in this thread. It's the continued remarks to anyone who disagrees or has a different point of view. You are good at playing with words - but at times in these threads it does seem you are only playing.

When you go back (as you did) and edit the original post in a thread - you lose credibility big time.

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by acrasial

I said that everyone, after HIM posting, was saying how great of a guy he was- whereas the TOPIC before hand sure wasn't as great. I never said you said that, I never said Tina said that, or Bev. This was put into my mouth, as all of you had something good to say AFTER.

I am talking about the atmosphere of the thread before and after he posted, that was what I had meant.

If this is still misunderstood, then I cannot help it then, and I guess I will just simply shutup, as that seems to be what people would like now (from me). That's the drift I have gotten.

How are we supposed to believe you or give you any credibility whatsoever when you keep going back and editing your posts. I've seen you do this several times in this very thread. Including the post quoted above.

Cheez. LOL

Allen

<edit>looks like Kay beat me to it </edit>

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

In that case why didn't you say what you meant, and not expect everybody to be a mind reader.

Or maybe some of us don't have a problem with what EZA is doing, and are willing to let those who post crappy articles, in crappy niches, whine and bitch because they can't have things their own way.

This wasn't a great discussion but an opportunity for people to complain because they don't want to play by Chris' rules.

If people don't like them, go elsewhere

I don't appreciate the language there. People got their steam out. It's out now. Not so much whining going on anymore. Someone even got her problem cleared up! That's a plus.

I'm also not sure that anyone who "complained" in this thread, had "crappy articles" in "crappy niches". We are on the warrior forum, and as I mentioned, and others as well, people on here take their work more seriously than alot of others.

FYI, I am NOT banned, my articles have NOT been removed, NOR altered, and were ALL hand written BY ME. Thus far, there are also NO issues either, with my Ezine Articles account. So who exactly are you referring to?



This is an edited post, because I can't keep replying many times, so I add alot of things to the same posts, and Yes, I do edit things, mostly to ADD more, as I did above, as there is a misunderstanding (but that is my fault).

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

How are we supposed to believe you or give you any credibility whatsoever when you keep going back and editing your posts. I've seen you do this several times in this very thread.
<edit>looks like Kay beat me to it</edit>

I didn't realize that I was going for credibility here? I am wondering what exactly I was asking people to believe? This was a topic open for discussion, people discussed it. I edit my posts as I get ideas, or other things come to mind. Is there anything else you would like to address? This feature is offered on here, I didn't realize it was TABOO to use.


Once again, I am editing a post:

Originally Posted by Kay King

It's not the topic or the complaint in this thread. It's the continued remarks to anyone who disagrees or has a different point of view. You are good at playing with words - but at times in these threads it does seem you are only playing.

When you go back (as you did) and edit the original post in a thread - you lose credibility big time.

I cannot just continuously post, post, post as in make a NEW post. So, this is ONE thing that I do at least. As for editing the original post, I did not REMOVE anything that was originally there, but added to it. Anything else on your mind as well?

[Paul Myers]

I am talking about the atmosphere of the thread before and after he posted, that was what I had meant.

You really don't 'get' what you just saw, do you? Given your penchant for drama, that's a bit surprising.

Have you ever seen a group of people talking nasty about someone, and how they shut up when that person walks into the room?

That's what just happened. If they come back, there's a good chance they'll be even nastier than they were before.


Paul

PS: Yes. I've read every word of every post in this thread. I am going to go get coffee to wash the taste out of my mouth.

[Paul Myers]

Allen,

How are we supposed to believe you or give you any credibility whatsoever when you keep going back and editing your posts. I've seen you do this several times in this very thread. Including the post quoted above.

I don't think she has any grasp of how seriously that is taken here.

Acrasial... You probably do not want to keep doing that. Now or in the future. That is classic troll-like behavior, and not guaranteed to bring a useful outcome.


Paul

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

PS: Yes. I've read every word of every post in this thread. I am going to go get coffee to wash the taste out of my mouth.

I don't mind that you read things here or anywhere for that matter? I hear alot of people "washing the taste out".

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Have you ever seen a group of people talking nasty about someone, and how they shut up when that person walks into the room?

That's what just happened. If they come back, there's a good chance they'll be even nastier than they were before.

I sure have seen things like that. I am not sure anyone is "coming back". I foresee the future of this thread either being locked or removed, that wouldn't surprise me either. But hey, that would just ADD to my credibility.

[Bev Clement]

Originally Posted by acrasial

I don't appreciate the language there. People got their steam out. It's out now. Not so much whining going on anymore. Someone even got her problem cleared up! That's a plus.

I'm also not sure that anyone who "complained" in this thread, had "crappy articles" in "crappy niches". We are on the warrior forum, and as I mentioned, and others as well, people on here take their work more seriously than alot of others.

FYI, I am NOT banned, my articles have NOT been removed, NOR altered, and were ALL hand written BY ME. Thus far, there are also NO issues either, with my Ezine Articles account. So who exactly are you referring to?

What language don't you appreciate, sorry I don't do mind reading. I suggest you look again at the thread if you can't see any whining going on before Chris walked in. Again, I didn't say where it was done, so don't pre-guess it was a comment about after Chris came in because it wasn't.

Just because we are on the warrior forum, doesn't mean anything. People here write crappy articles, and this isn't new, and don't get your knickers in a twist because you want to have the centre of attention when it wasn't about you.

When did I mention you being banned, or anyone else being banned, having their articles removed, or anything else you suggest. You don't do a good job reading minds.

Why can't I make a comment about the whole thread, or did I miss something, that it is all about you now?

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

I am going to go get coffee to wash the taste out of my mouth.

It'll take more than a coffee, sir.



Peace

Jay

[Paul Myers]

I foresee the future of this thread either being locked or removed, that wouldn't surprise me either. But hey, that would just ADD to my credibility.

Pure drama.

Ma'am, at the moment you have no credibility. None. Editing a post to change the context of another person's comments is a deal-killer.


Paul

[BobbyTn]

Cant agree with you more, if you are not delivering any quality and are just looking for a quick bock, then you might as well be banned, In todays market people are smarter and are looking for value, you deliver that youre hooked with good customers, you dont your dead

[Steven Wagenheim]

Look, I don't know what everybody's personal relationship with Chris is, but
I had a serious problem at one time where every single one of my articles
was being rejected because the editor couldn't tell that the link in my
resource box was to a site I actually owned.

Finally, I had to contact Chris. He had me personally send him a list of all
my domains and had them manually attached to my account.

Since that time, I have NEVER had one article rejected for a signature
violation.

As I stated previously in this thread. EZA is a business model for me, nothing
more and nothing less. I have nothing personal against them or for them. I
use them to build my business. Chris has never let me down when I have
had a problem that needed to be addressed. Therefore, in my eyes and in
my opinion, that makes him a standup guy.

Do I personally like the new policy?

Well, it sure makes me have to really buckle down and write some killer
articles, maybe a little better than normal. Certainly it will have me more
conscious about what I write.

But like it or not, and I have said this from the beginning, I understand why
Chris is doing this. It's business. It's not personal. He's fighting to keep
the integrity of his directory.

I now have 2 choices.

1. I can continue to write for his directory submitting the quality required.
2. I can submit someplace else.

Why some people here can't seem to grasp that and instead want to
bitch and complain about what is going on is beyond me.

Like I said, we created this monster with our trash.

So now we have to pay the piper and we're not happy about it.

That's ultimately what this all comes down to in a nutshell.

[acrasial]

OK then, to everyone who felt annoyed by me: I am sorry.

Regards,

[Bev Clement]

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

It'll take more than a coffee, sir.



Peace

Jay

Send him some whisky/whiskey and he will be fine. John and Kevin won't miss theirs

Heading to PA tomorrow, any good places to visit?

[DogScout]

Go to an Amish country Bed & Breakfast and RELAX!

[Bev Clement]

I hadn't realised EZA was at war with anyone. It's their site to do with as they wish.

I'm so glad I'm not an IMer (as in being in the IM niche) because I'm not at war with EZA or anyone else.

[Bev Clement]

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Bev, surely this was a jest? LOL.

Tina

Of course which is why I added the

[Allison_W]

Originally Posted by AllyW

My take is, this is WAAAYYY overdue. Recently went to EZA to research something, and I didn't find one single article that was of any value. Not one. And the grammar, punctuation and overall quality of writing was atrocious, about a C- 8th grade level. There is a whole lot of garbage on EZA. If you are a lousy writer, don't use article marketing, do something else.

I agree with what most people are saying about it being long overdue and it will benefit the quality submitters in the long run but what I find funny is that all the "spam" - bad quality, bad grammar & punctuation - articles they are trying to weed out came about because their editors let it through in the first place - TWICE!

If you're not a good writer/speller and/or English isn't your first language but your article gets accepted you "assume" there is not a problem with your writing skills.

Of course some people are intentionally spamming and yes they may get away with it for a couple of times but a lot of people submit genuine efforts and unless it is rejected will continue to submit the same quality again and again.

Well, that's just my 2 cents worth.

[jacksonlin]

Hmmm...

I don't know about quality content.

I have hand written articles that got rejected by EZA.

Yet I have rehashed articles "spun" with Content Boss that were accepted.

I'm sure this is the case for a lot of people.

[machia]

Re: Are YOU Next?

Not likely.

I have to say that I've been impressed that EZA has had the balls to publish some of my stuff. Some of the articles can't even be presented with Adsense around them, but they
publish them anyway. There have been a few times they just couldn't bring themselves to
include some of my writing and I'm more than happy to use that content on my sites instead where I can say whatever I want.

I know I've written a quality article when I actually enjoy rereading it myself. When I started, my focus was laser sharp on what would people interested in this subject want to see, read and hopefully be helped with.

Get your aim right from the beginning and you won't have to worry about EZA or anyone. You all have it within you to be creative enough to offer more than enough distinctive value to get nearly anything published.

[cherylwright]

Originally Posted by chrisknight

Cheryl,

Please forgive me.

You contacted me when I was out of the office on August 21st. I promised that I'd look into the situation on Saturday August 22nd and get back to you by Tuesday of the following week or August 25th.

We had a management discussion about your situation and I wrongly assumed someone on our team was going to respond to you. The person who I thought was responding to you on this issue thought I was responding and left a note on your account that an email was sent. We both dropped the ball and it's my fault for not making certain that your email received a response. Sorry.

My apologies again. A private email was sent to you a minute ago.

Hi Chris,

I didn't get your email; I don't know what happened.

You basically got caught up in the fact I'm sick and tired of people making promises and not keeping them.

Your staff were incredibly rude to me and it wasn't necessary -- that p'd me off even further.

If I tell someone I'll do something, I do it. So many people break promises these days that I've really had enough. (And you did tell me you would respond personally...)




Cheryl

[Burtgummer]

I'm starting to become a bit frustrated now....

One staff member tells me one thing, and another tells me a completely different thing.

I've got a website that is titled "Mafia Wars Bots and Cheats". However, it starts off saying that cheating is not the way to go, and the rest of the article is about strategies that are completely legal to use in the game.

I write articles on Mafia Wars about "tips" and "strategies", once again, completely legal and allowed under the Mafia Wars TOS.

2 days ago an article was rejected, but it was later approved because the staff member looked at the content on the link and saw that it wasn't really about cheating the game illegally. She said that she placed a note on my account so there would no longer be any confusion for future articles.

Now, 3 articles were not approved today with that same link, because they said it is not allowed under the Mafia Wars TOS..........

So 2 different staff told me 2 completely different things, and the supposed note didn't do anything.

I was basically told in another email today, from a different staff member, that "this content is no longer allowed". So I can't write about Mafia Wars at all any more? Great. Thanks. Now I have to rebuild everything in another niche, and being a newbie at IM makes it seriously hard to restart.

Now, I have no problem at all with article being of value. I write my articles so they DO give information to the reader, because I believe in establishing trust with the reader. But these are getting Disapproved because of my link, and now it sounds like they won't even accept articles about Mafia Wars at all.

Seriously frustrating.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

lol...

SURVEY SAYS:

EZA has NO CLUE what content they want - what they don't want - or anything else about consistency.

Here's the deal...

I understand what EZA is doing. Hell, I think they are doing the right thing

BUT the way they are implementing it SUCKS.

Before someone jumps in and says if you don't like it don't submit your content there....POUND SAND.

I very RARELY submit content to EZA anymore. I have someone else do it - Well, I have several people do it and here is what I have found.

Person 1 can submit content about X niche

but

Person 2 cant

Person 3 can direct link to a particular offer

BUT

Person 4 cant.

I'm not mad - I'm actually mildly amused. As I've gotten reports today from different people the sheer lack of any direction or consistency has given me and my the people that do some work for me a few chuckles.

Anyway, I personally don't think that they are doing anyway with ANYTHING in particular. I think they are getting rid of people that have displayed certain habits which is fairly obvious if you look at the no consistency factor across the entire author base.

If they don't like you - FIRE THEM

If they do like you - MILK THE TRAFFIC FOR ALL IT'S WORTH

But for the love of god - Stop whining about it.

[Vanquish]

So does anyone know exactly why Chris at Eza is doing this?

I know the main reason would be to clean up the directory but he is running a business and a business main purpose is to produce profit so i'm sure despite the bad content the shear volume of articles being submitted approved and viewed would create more $ for Chris.

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Vanquish

So does anyone know exactly why Chris at Eza is doing this?

I know the main reason would be to clean up the directory but he is running a business and a business main purpose is to produce profit so i'm sure despite the bad content the shear volume of articles being submitted approved and viewed would create more $ for Chris.

Another main purpose of a business is to meet or exceed your long-term goals. In my opinion, this is why the whole thing is happening.

Allen

[mmurtha]

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

Send him some whisky/whiskey and he will be fine. John and Kevin won't miss theirs

Heading to PA tomorrow, any good places to visit?

Go visit Paul Myers, and delive the bottle in person Bev. He lives in PA. That would make an interesting visit no?

[redicelander]

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

I hadn't realised EZA was at war with anyone. It's their site to do with as they wish.

I'm so glad I'm not an IMer (as in being in the IM niche) because I'm not at war with EZA or anyone else.

Hmmm, except I believe on their blog Chris mentioned the "war on affiliate marketers" or something like that...

[parzlou]

IMO It all comes back to the BIG G......... I really think that ezine is aligning there site and the content on it to conform to new google policy... and you cant blame them, or any site owner for that matter to ensure they are up to what google deems as worthy ..

All of my articles have been accepted in a timely manner...I have only had to rework one article and that was not due to content but rather to the site the resource box was pointing to.

[mrizos]

Man...it's about time! There are TONS of articles that flat out SCREAM I'm SELLING SOMETHING TO YOU!!! or...they're written absolutely HORRIBLE. ....again...it's about time.

[Marty S]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Some of us have been saying it for months that people need to branch out and stop listening to those that say "you must submit to eza" .. Blah! Yeah Right! No you do not have to either.

If branching out means submitting to other article directories, forums, blogs and such I think that is rather obvious, but to ignore the premiere article directory on the internet is simply poor advice. Its nearly tantamount to being a video producer and ignoring Youtube. Again not advisable. I have never said you MUST submit to EZA, but you will have to work much harder to make up for ignoring one of the most effective strategies/websites on the internet.

Of course you should spread out your writing to numerous Web2.0, but from my personal experience EZineArticles put many of my sites "on the map" and I still reap rewards from articles I submitted years ago. You just can't say that about other article directories, most of whom you don't even know will be around too long.

I have never submitted an article to EZA with less that 400 words and most are at least 500. A while back I read something on EZA saying that the minimum article had to be 250 words and I was shocked. I started looking at some short articles in my market and quickly concluded that even though I did NOT have the most articles submitted (by far), there was MAYBE 2 other writers that actually wrote something of value. The rest were mostly nonsense or poor regurgitations.

For the OP who is battling this on so many levels I suggest this - submit quality articles to EZA that actually provide the reader with at least one valuable concept. For that to happen in a natural fashion, your article will end up in the 500 word range all by itself - you wont even have to be counting as you type! Put 2 strategic key word links in your BIO and just keep doing it. Focus on quality, not perceived roadblocks.

EZineArticles is one the most popular websites on the internet because they are VERY well managed. Although these latest policies will obviously reduce the content of their site, it will improve the quality of that site - something Google is very keen on and IMHO will result in even higher rankings for articles that get accepted on EZA.

These new industry leading policies are all the MORE reasons to submit to EZineArticles IMHO.

Originally Posted by Marty S

I have never said you MUST submit to EZA, but you will have to work much harder to make up for ignoring one of the most effective strategies/websites on the internet.

Wrong ... That is simply not true, many of us do not submit to EZA and it has not hurt one single bit. Why on earth do I want to submit to a adsense farm for so-called top listings when I can add an article and get top listings with no adsense ads all over my content ... See that is called working smart not harder.

Sorry but those that say like you just have no clue how beneficial it is to work on your own site and how large the internet really is. It's an article directory and certainly not the "most effective strategies/websites on the internet". I guess by your statement there Allens own forum is worthless ???

Be careful how you word things.... Again it is an article directory and it may be the largest article directory.

James

[Marty S]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Wrong ... That is simply not true, many of us do not submit to EZA and it has not hurt one single bit.

I don't know the "many" you are representing here, but logically speaking you have no way to prove this statement, since you do not use EZA.

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Sorry but those that say like you just have no clue how beneficial it is to work on your own site and how large the internet really is.

When did I say I do not work on my own sites? Do I have to know exactly how big the internet is? How could anyone be making a living on the internet and have no clue?

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

It's an article directory and certainly not the "most effective strategies/websites on the internet". I guess by your statement there Allens own forum is worthless ???

You cut my quote off where it suited you and I have no idea what your reference to this forum means.

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Be careful how you word things.... Again it is an article directory and it may be the largest article directory.

James

I think I made my point rather clear that it is poor advice to ignore using EZinearticles. I try to be professional in that regard and was hoping you could do the same when responding.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

lol...

SURVEY SAYS:

EZA has NO CLUE what content they want - what they don't want - or anything else about consistency.

Where did you pick this up from?

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Person 1 can submit content about X niche

but

Person 2 cant

Person 3 can direct link to a particular offer

BUT

Person 4 cant.

Is there a reason behind this? Such as in mistakes made by each submitter, or simply no reason?

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I'm not mad - I'm actually mildly amused.

SHHH don't tell people that, they will get mad! Being amused at this topic is bad for one's health, as they may be seen as a troll, or drama rama leader!

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I think they are getting rid of people that have displayed certain habits which is fairly obvious if you look at the no consistency factor across the entire author base.

I am not sure they are getting rid of those people for long. Just like this forum gets "spammers", they always pry their way back in. Like you mentioned, that you have other people submit, a clever "spammer" to EZA would easily do the same. Of course they may continuously be banned, but to some the more challenging something is, the more they want to do it.

Also, to some, EZA is the best directory out there, so that's why they try and get back in.

[Stephen Meyer]

I've posted articles on EZA for a couple years and the only problem I've ever had was with posting Affiliate links. I changed my sig to point to my websites and have never had a problem since.

Makes me wonder what the real problem is?

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Stephen Meyer

I've posted articles on EZA for a couple years and the only problem I've ever had was with posting Affiliate links. I changed my sig to point to my websites and have never had a problem since.

Makes me wonder what the real problem is?

Affiliate marketers, such as in articles written about hot niche topics. Some have issues, others don't. There isn't a huge PROBLEM, but rather just a long overdue crackdown from EZA, which is also affect some people in the wrong manner.

A couple of dummies ruined things for others so to speak.

[KatyaSenina]

I do get the value part... but unique content? Please...

In my opinion, I think most articles are rehashed content, the concept is the same, only written in different words.

Do they want writers to re-invent the wheel? No one can be COMPLETELY unique! That's not possible!

I mean, define unique!

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by KatyaSenina

I do get the value part... but unique content? Please...

In my opinion, I think most articles are rehashed content, the concept is the same, only written in different words.

Do they want writers to re-invent the wheel? No one can be COMPLETELY unique! That's not possible!

I mean, define unique!

True, most of the things people know came from other people. We wouldn't learn english as our mother tongue, if it weren't for our parents. So there's an influence, and we behave like we do because of the environments we grew up in, so there's another influence.

Most of what people are, has been influenced by others, and much the same with how they think, write etc... I guess EZA is hoping then, that there are enough influences in each person, that they can still write something that isn't completely the same as the next guy, and the next guy...

But there is a thing going on in EZA, where everyone is literally taking the same topic and beating it till it's dead... if someone wrote about "get rich, in 5 steps", suddenly everyone is writing "get rich in 5 steps", and not only this, but the steps in the other articles are similar or nearly identical to the original article.

I think this is what they may be referring to. However, they most certainly are suggesting perhaps that maybe they don't want the wheel re-invented, but rather made to be better.

Consider the first wheel built, it was pretty plain. Then we learned we can make this with rubber, increase the friction and then add grooves and other kinds of things to the tires as well. Now we have all terrain vehicles and other things which can run really smoothly.

So perhaps they are simply asking that the wheel be improved. After all in almost every thing in life, there is something improving. In sciences, maths, social areas and of course internet marketing.

Most certainly, though, I have heard people telling me "how many different ways can you say the same thing?". However, someone else had also pointed out that topics can be researched within each niche, to get a variety of things to write about in the first place.

[Ian Jackson]

Now I'm not assuming all the new clamp downs are already in place - frankly I don't read EZA rules every day/week but just try to use common sense and no software of any kind...

I just did a quick test for myself and submitted 2 250-300 word articles - on E-book publishing (saturated niche?) they were accepted in about 2 days from submission date.

I consider I write quite good quality info, but at the same time I (nor anyone) can reinvent the wheel. My articles were written in the same style I've been using all along (I use nothing but the formats/blueprints that one receives in article how-to products). I have about 300 published articles now with EZA and nothing's been flagged up... yet.

I'm not suggesting trouble may not lie ahead, and this post is no more than a bit of a quickie heads-up report from a my recent experience.

[Burtgummer]

What annoys me is how they determine if they simply like you links or not.

I mean, come on. I can see if it was completely unrelated to the article, or if it was adult/inappropriate content, but there is some serious pickiness going on.

If they would just read the content on my link, they would see that it isn't about how to "cheat at mafia wars illegally". They are legal strategies, but EZA can't seem to do 1 line of reading to find out that my content is NOT against Mafia War's TOS.

I write quality content, and to have articles suddenly not accepted because of a link that has been used in previous articles for months is seriously annoying.

So now I have to make a completely new blog with a DIFFERENT TITLE (that's it) for my articles to be accepted.

[wordwizard]

Originally Posted by BrenneM

I have only been writing for EZine since June. They have accepted all 39 of my submissions, but approval has taken on the average of 3 weeks. I use only primary sources for my articles, and write high quality articles, but still, I am still stuck in BasicPlus status. I have seen people with as little as 3 articles published at the Platium level. Go figure! I made a request 2 weeks ago to be granted Platium status, but have not heard anything yet. So, will keep you posted!

Wow, what a thread. I'll have to chime in (once I finished reading all the 6 pages.

In the meantime:

About the Platinum authors with 3 articles...

I believe this is a case of a Platinum author posting under a pen name (or three). Any pen names will all have Platinum Status too since the main author has Platinum status. There's no funny stuff going on.

In fact, I just checked to make sure this is how it works (in my own account where I have a couple of extra names that have fewer than 10 articles yet they have Platinum status).

Hope this clears up THAT particular mystery.

Elisabeth

[robert25]

Originally Posted by KatyaSenina

I do get the value part... but unique content? Please...

In my opinion, I think most articles are rehashed content, the concept is the same, only written in different words.

Do they want writers to re-invent the wheel? No one can be COMPLETELY unique! That's not possible!

I mean, define unique!

I totally agree with you. If I am writing article on "Treatments To Grow Taller" there are only 6 major treatments available in the market, how can one write the seventh one.

[Paul Myers]

SHHH don't tell people that, they will get mad! Being amused at this topic is bad for one's health, as they may be seen as a troll, or drama rama leader!

I have a sneaking suspicion that Jeremy knows better than you what is good and bad for one's health, forum-wise.

For the benefit of those of you who're new 'round here...

Being amused is not at all unhealthy. Being a drama queen (of either gender) just gets you looked at funny by serious people.

Trolling, such as with the comment above, is a game best left to people who understand the risks. Don't put out bait if you're not comfortable with the possibility of what you might attract with it.


Paul

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by TheGodfather

I say that we break from the chains of EzineArticles and show them who made them what they are today!

I have news for you: they made them what they are today. (And that's obviously partly why they're trying to do something about the situation).

If every single affiliate marketer decided to stop submitting articles there tomorrow, it wouldn't affect EZA's rankings at all, would it? (The average quality of their articles would increase, though.)

This is business. What they're doing makes good business sense for them. They care about their business just like I care about mine.

[Allen Graves]

Actually, I believe they would take a small hit - a SMALL one - but Chris said he is willing to take that hit, whatever it may be, for the future of his website.

Allen

[Fun to Write]

Originally Posted by TheGodfather

Well let's do some math: let's take an assumption that there are about 10.000 Internet marketers using EzineArticles as premium members.

Premium membership costs about 97 $ per month that equals to roughly 100.000 $ per month of loss should they choose to leave the EzineArticles.

Would you, or any other business, risk and income of 100.000 $ a month in order to "clean up" your own act, and after that to get even more crap from probably the same article writers.

From what Steve W just posted, Chris Knight is more than willing to let EZA take a short term financial hit to gain long term quality.

[Fun to Write]

Originally Posted by TheGodfather

What I suggest is that all the members from the warrior forum gathers together and united create an article directory [with all our SEO experts] and make it similar to the EzineArticles market model, by that I meant the free and the paid versions of the accounts. The money that we would gather would be used to pay several chosen members who would administer the site, check articles for quality, and make sure that no crap is posted there.

Who is with me!?!

TheGodfather

I suggest you start this yourself. Good luck trying to find lots of members here to help you get this started. It would take a ton of time and work to pull it off. It's much easier to just up your game and learn how to write longer articles that provide the reader with good information.

Sorry, you got banned, but many of us are not in your shoes and don't intend to be.

[Fun to Write]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

3. I still have no idea why this thread is even going on .. It is pointless - How many of your still posting have actually worked today ? I see some huge post which takes time to write, you could have spent that energy on writing a new article and getting traffic from it...

James

Ha ha ha. Yep, I'm procrastinating doing my work by reading this thread.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

3. I still have no idea why this thread is even going on

Because it's being powered by this guy.

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Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Because it's being powered by this guy.

YouTube - First Energizer Bunny Commercial

If it's one thing I noticed steven - everytime some company does this or that there will be a hot thread at WF with people just sitting by waiting for the next reply or what someone is going to say..

For all you newbies, let this thread be a lesson for you "if" you can see past all replies and the rants and the even the praises. There is a message here for you to learn and "if" you paid any attention at all you would realize it's called...

Controversy

And it sells like hot cakes, that is why the national gossip mags are still in business even after the internet boom..

James

Disclaimer: What google did and it still doing deserved to have a rant thread...

[Bev Clement]

And the bottom line is nobody here knows exactly why Chris is doing what he is doing. None of us are sitting in board rooms and seeing how he brainstorms the next phase of his business.

All we have is quotes from his blog which give part of the story and doesn't give away all of the secrets.

I for one am glad to see this thread going, even if it gets locked, because it has shown again who not to work with.

[Marty S]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

3. I still have no idea why this thread is even going on .. It is pointless - How many of your still posting have actually worked today ? I see some huge post which takes time to write, you could have spent that energy on writing a new article and getting traffic from it...

James

LoL - says the guy with these stats -

James
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