Found a key word in a saturated niche that is not saturated, Should I go for it?

[AnnaHamer]

Okay I am a hopeless newb when it comes to niche marketing. My hubby told me not to even post this, because I will get laughed out of the forum, but me being me and not believing anything anyone tells me until I see proof otherwise.

I found a keyword using a program for an extremely saturated niche. The key word gets 1,900 searches per month. This is a very desperate niche so I figure that is enough to make some money with. I checked namecheap and although the keyword isn't available all in title if I put the before the keyword the .com is. The top site in google at the min is a PR3 with only 220 back links and 336 links to the domain. the allintitle: is only about 33,000 and the same in quotes.

I was thinking of doing a blogger page as it would already has links to the domain I think it was about 100 on a page I know was made with blogger.

Hubby says not to go for it as everyone and their grandmother is doing this niche and I don't have a hope in hell of getting to the front, but I don't know it seems to fit all the criteria to me. What do you guys think?

Thanks

[John Burton]

I always say the most important thing is what you think. There is no way it will be impossible to make money, no matter how saturated the niche. If it ticks all the boxes for you then go for it.

I have three sites in saturated niches - and all of them make money.

John Burton

[jazbo]

Every niche has a gap in it somewhere, if you have found one then give it a try. You will of course get the added bonus of proving your husband wrong should you research be correct!

[AnnaHamer]

Thanks John. Going to think of the best way to go about it. I just can't bring myself to believe it's this easy.

[John Burton]

Don't make the mistake of thinking it's easy, Anna. No matter how good the angle you've found, it takes some hard work to get the system working for you, at least initially. Good luck.

John Burton

[GarryMSayer]

Hi Anna,

A couple of things...

1). When I see people giving out set figures sometimes I have to cringe, 1000 searches a month in the 'buy a private jet' niche might be enough to make you a fortune, but you might need 1,000,000 in the 'buy paper-clips' niche!

Also you'll find that the more targeted you get then the easier it should be to make a sale. So for example, if you are targeting yoga and you sell a yoga course to a person over 50 years of age then they might buy it as it is about the topic they want so it could help them.

Now if you have a yoga course specifically targeted at people over 50, all other things being equal you are more likely to sell that course to that person.

So you need to look at the niche you are about to analyse and see if you can break it down even further, you might find a batch of keywords related to an even more specific segment of that market which still have good search volume AND you may uncover less competition.

2). Is the niche shrinking or growing? Head over to Google Trends this allows you to see the trend of the searches that have taken place over a set period of time. The thing to watch out for here is a steep decline in the searches, so you can catch a 'fad' that has passed and is fading into obscurity.


There's other stuff to take into account as well (hey I'm not gonna reveal all of my secrets to you ) but if the results from these two suggestions are positive then you are onto a good start.

Hope this helps.

Garry.

[T.I.M.]

Jump on it Anna!


Domain name = $10

Possibility = ???

Experience of creating site/content = Pricele$$

[rosetrees]

Originally Posted by CuzinTim

Jump on it Anna!


Domain name = $10

Possibility = ???

Experience of creating site/content = Pricele$$

You took the words out of my mouth - or at least, away from my fingers.

What have you got to lose?

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by GarryMSayer

Hi Anna,

A couple of things...

1). When I see people giving out set figures sometimes I have to cringe, 1000 searches a month in the 'buy a private jet' niche might be enough to make you a fortune, but you might need 1,000,000 in the 'buy paper-clips' niche!

Also you'll find that the more targeted you get then the easier it should be to make a sale. So for example, if you are targeting yoga and you sell a yoga course to a person over 50 years of age then they might buy it as it is about the topic they want so it could help them.

Now if you have a yoga course specifically targeted at people over 50, all other things being equal you are more likely to sell that course to that person.

So you need to look at the niche you are about to analyse and see if you can break it down even further, you might find a batch of keywords related to an even more specific segment of that market which still have good search volume and this research may uncover less competition.

2). Is the niche shrinking or growing? Head over to Google Trends this allows you to see the trend of the searches that have taken place over a set period of time. The thing to watch out for here is a steep decline in the searches, so you can catch a 'fad' that has passed and is fading into obscurity.


There's other stuff to take into account as well (hey I'm not gonna reveal all of my secrets to you ) but if the results from these two suggestions are positive then you are onto a good start.

Hope this helps.

Garry.

hehe not planning on making that much from it just yet. Just one small pebble in my little marketing empire. My way of thinking is: sure it only gets 1000 searches, but if I have say 10 sites like this that is 10000. That's the way I see it. The only thing that worries me about this one is it will not be residual income. I am going to have to keep on my toes, because lots of other marketers have the some stuff I do to do their research, and I am sure I would be knocked out quite easily given my lack of experience.

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by rosetrees

You took the words out of my mouth - or at least, away from my fingers.

What have you got to lose?

yeah domian is $8.81 as long as I make at least that plus the hour it takes me to make the page, and couple hours to do the backlinks. Even if I make only one sale at 30.00 that's about $7/hour, I'd settle for that's not great money, but at least it won't be a loss. Going to think now the best way to attack it. Not going to do an ezine to a squeeze page, because ezine is cracking down, and it would be hard for me to write an article on this without mentioning a product or 2 given the search term. Thought about doing a site on blogger and do a top 10 list. That would give me an automatic 100+ links to the domain, but limited in the design of the page.

Anyone have any other ideas?

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by John Burton

Don't make the mistake of thinking it's easy, Anna. No matter how good the angle you've found, it takes some hard work to get the system working for you, at least initially. Good luck.

John Burton

I know what you mean. I know it isn't easy. I just meant easy to break into this niche. Going to have a think and think out my strategy.

[GarryMSayer]

Hi Anna,

pm sent.

Garry.

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by GarryMSayer

Hi Anna,

pm sent.

Garry.

Thanks Garry.

[ramone_johnny]

Sure youve checked the spelling?

[Oscar D]

Originally Posted by CuzinTim

Jump on it Anna!


Domain name = $10

Possibility = ???

Experience of creating site/content = Pricele$$

I 100% agree,

I suggest you try it out. Internet Marketing is all about testing. So get a site going with some content and do a little promotion and then after some time analyse the site and see if it has succeeded.

As the Nike slogan goes - Just do it

Good luck

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by ramone_johnny

Sure youve checked the spelling?

hahah yeah I did this time. Don't you hate when that happens, you get all excited and then found out to typed it wrong. Happens to me all the time..

[AnnaHamer]

I found an even better one now. It gets more searches, is less competitive and is over $17 CPC. Writing an ezine and building a capture page for sure for this one. I might buy the domain on namecheap if this little experiment works.

[Oscar D]

Originally Posted by AnnaHamer

I found an even better one now. It gets more searches, is less competitive and is over $17 CPC. Writing an ezine and building a capture page for sure for this one. I might buy the domain on namecheap if this little experiment works.

WOW, you are on a role

[Josef_Benjamin]

You can't substitute experience anna.

The hardest part of being an entrepreneur is dealing with uncertainty.

People quit not because any particular strategy or plan is "hard" per se, but because it's impossible to foresee an outcome in your favor well before you take the time or money to act on it.

Even if everything looks "up and up".

You can prepare, research, and ask other peoples opionions to validate your research (not a good idea)...but nothing anyone here says will get you to your goal faster than you simply acting on the info you all ready have.

Nothing wrong with asking questions, but you could have just as easily gotten enough negative feedback here to STOP you mentally from pursuing this project of yours.

And for all you know, it coulda been the one project that pulled in several grand a month. But you'll never know, because someone elses experience or opinions affected your decision.

Anways, just go for it

[MaryT]

Hi Anna

try to find high paying affiliates program if you don't plan to create your own product

and also, build a list asap with your blog.

the number 1,900 is not that big but as mentioned abve, depend of the value of the market.
if it's creditcard or mortgage related = Bingo
Go to spyfu and type your keyword+some deeper keywords, you'll get an idea of the click value. And that tells you a lot about the money spent in the market

Start to put a blog asap with one post, social bookmark the post.

the most important is your plan, and especially "how do yu plan to monetize the site"

go for it, you will learn alot. And youll be able to spots a lot more keywords in the future

your competition doesn't seem tough from what you tell

go for it and good luck
Mary

[AnnaHamer]

thanks mary. Having no problems monetizing, but I am really unsure about adsense. I don't know how to tell how much you will get for each click from you site. Does it depend on how much people are paying for that keyword? AIs it wise to put it on a capture page that you are directing people away from the offer you want them to complete?

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by Oscar D

WOW, you are on a role

hehe I know, on a bit of a high with it really! Already wrote 2 articles in that niche using keywords targeting the same demographic both with over 6,000 searches! Going to look for a keyword for a 3rd, looking at it from a different angle. Then build a capture page, if I see some results going to build a blog on it. Fingers crossed!

[Josef_Benjamin]

Originally Posted by AnnaHamer

thanks mary. Having no problems monetizing, but I am really unsure about adsense. I don't know how to tell how much you will get for each click from you site. Does it depend on how much people are paying for that keyword? AIs it wise to put it on a capture page that you are directing people away from the offer you want them to complete?

Yess anna, it does depend on how much people will pay for the click depending on the niche and keyword.

i don't understand the second question.

Again, these are superflous questions, and got everything you need. At this point, your stalling and looking for answers to questions that can't be answered until you take action...

uhhh..

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by Hijynx427

I would say go for it. If you've got the automation for backlink creation and if you've got the money for the domain then why not? Just don't drop a lot into it if it doesn't work - don't salvage it - try it. If it works without you pushing too hard then you were right. Success. If it fails miserably and hits the floor, scrap it and move on to your next million dollar idea!

Jason

HA! I wish it were a million dollar idea.
But I would be happy with a couple hundred bucks!

[actionplanbiz]

Test that keyword through some ppc if you want to see what kind of results you get.

and also think of why would a person type in that keyword?
is he in the mood to buy? or is he most likely just looking?

should take you that long to rank with that keyword if youir compition is only 30,000

[actionplanbiz]

*shouldn't take you that long*

[monitorit]

If you dont go with it pm me it and i will!

[doctfeelgood]

Hi Anna,
If it feels good go for it. I have made a fortune just to prove my husband wrong, so everytime he tells me something won't work i go for it. Works everytime!
Good Luck
Cathy

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by Josef_Benjamin

Yess anna, it does depend on how much people will pay for the click depending on the niche and keyword.

i don't understand the second question.

Again, these are superflous questions, and got everything you need. At this point, your stalling and looking for answers to questions that can't be answered until you take action...

uhhh..

Sorry when I get excited about something I type the exact thought LOL, I should translate. Say I am doing a capture page for a weight loss product. Do I really want adsense on that page, when I am wanting them to click MY link. Is giving them more options to click away from that page a mistake?

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by monitorit

If you dont go with it pm me it and i will!

was worth a try wasn't it! I got the capture page up it looks like a load of you know what, because I didn't really spend much time on it (like 5 min). Well bellow my standards, but let's see if it converts. I have seen uglier pages people are claiming to make thousands on. Got the articles submitted, so we'll see what happens. Whatever happens I really think I found a good little formula. It is just a matter of time until I get one that will stick to the front page of google. Hopefully I will have good news to report when my articles are in full flow.

[AnnaHamer]

Originally Posted by doctfeelgood

Hi Anna,
If it feels good go for it. I have made a fortune just to prove my husband wrong, so everytime he tells me something won't work i go for it. Works everytime!
Good Luck
Cathy

He's been working at this for months and months. I think I would feel kinda bad if it works, but got to get the christmas fund going.

[WinsonYeung]

Go to SpyFu and find out the potential $$$ you can earn from 1 click.
On top of that, is the search result in Quotes?

My advice:
Get a domain name instead of blogspot.
Once the website is up, start building backlinks to that website with the keyword.

I have done niche marketing and just by ranking the keyword up. You gonna make some bucks from adsense.

Check out XFactor - Micro Niche Adsense Course or something if you want to go into niche marketing to prove to your love one...

[ramone_johnny]

Just thought Id pitch in on this one.

About a month ago I found a keyword that, according to Google's keyword tool, attracted 5,400 spm. The number of competing sites was 4.

Needless to say, I couldnt write my articles quick enough, and had them up in less than an hour.

Within three days I was ranked first page, about half way down, and I was wrapped.

That was about 2 months ago, and thus far I see very little traffic (if any) from that keyword.

Why?

Because of Googles "Did you mean: <keyword here>"

And no, this wasnt a mispelling.

Rule no 1. Be sure to always check your keywords in Google's search results before you start popping champagne corks like I did.

[Steve Powers]

I think it's not necessary for you to worry so much.Just do it.I'm sure you will benefit from it,maybe not that much.Also,you should make a budget before you do it.At present,what you do is just to make you not suffer a loss,and it's ok.Rome was not built in one day.

[AnnaHamer]

okay so 2 400 word articles and an ugly weebly landing page got me MY first solo sale. Been helping hubby for a while, and my big site isn't up and running. My article is still on page 2 of google. For a search term which gets about 8000 searches a month in the credit and debt niche. Not bad I guess this little experiment was a success. Maybe write some more articles. I got really lucky my 2 articles were approved together and were the last to be approved before the weekend.

Thanks to everyone who commented in this thread. :>)

[davis9461]

Originally Posted by GarryMSayer

Hi Anna,

A couple of things...

1). When I see people giving out set figures sometimes I have to cringe, 1000 searches a month in the 'buy a private jet' niche might be enough to make you a fortune, but you might need 1,000,000 in the 'buy paper-clips' niche!

Also you'll find that the more targeted you get then the easier it should be to make a sale. So for example, if you are targeting yoga and you sell a yoga course to a person over 50 years of age then they might buy it as it is about the topic they want so it could help them.

Now if you have a yoga course specifically targeted at people over 50, all other things being equal you are more likely to sell that course to that person.

So you need to look at the niche you are about to analyse and see if you can break it down even further, you might find a batch of keywords related to an even more specific segment of that market which still have good search volume AND you may uncover less competition.

2). Is the niche shrinking or growing? Head over to Google Trends this allows you to see the trend of the searches that have taken place over a set period of time. The thing to watch out for here is a steep decline in the searches, so you can catch a 'fad' that has passed and is fading into obscurity.


There's other stuff to take into account as well (hey I'm not gonna reveal all of my secrets to you ) but if the results from these two suggestions are positive then you are onto a good start.

Hope this helps.

Garry.

I completely agree and well said!