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Old 09-19-2008, 02:38 PM   #1
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Does anyone know the legality of doing something like this?

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Default Re: OK to use "Google" or "Yahoo!" in domain/product name?

I wonder...many seem to do that but I'm not sure it's right since those names are trademark.
I know for a fact you can't use those keywords in adwords.

I'm intersted in getting more info on this.

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Old 09-19-2008, 02:59 PM   #3
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Thanks Zoul!!! !

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I would have thought it was not allowed with the trademark agreement but there have been various high profile products especially with google in the product name. Not sure if google have seen them and have done anything about them. Might be best to consult a lawyer in the Internet field about this.

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Default Re: OK to use "Google" or "Yahoo!" in domain/product name?

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Does anyone know the legality of doing something like this?
Many has used google in their domain name and have lost them also.. Google owns last time I checked over 5,000 domain names. All taken from others.

As I think you know they call their building GooglePlex someone thought they would be smart and registered the name and put a site on it.. Before you knoew it here came google and their lawyers.

I would not bother to attempt it.

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Old 09-19-2008, 03:40 PM   #6
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Default Re: OK to use "Google" or "Yahoo!" in domain/product name?

You run a real risk of losing it. I wouldn't take the chance.

But that's just me.

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Old 09-19-2008, 04:02 PM   #7
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Default Re: OK to use "Google" or "Yahoo!" in domain/product name?

Using a trademarked term in a domain, to the
left of the extension - ie, googleclone.com or
google.mysite.com can/will be a legal issue.

Notice Google Cash isn't GoogleCash.com . . .
well, glad I checked - now it is so I guess it's
now cool to use "Google".

I have a number of domain names with Adwords,
Adsense, etc, in them that have not been an
issue - except that I cannot put Adsense on
those sites - Google won't allow it (so they
know about my domains).

It seems Google *was* protective of using Google,
but not the names of their products - like
Adwords. Of course, AdsenseSucks.com
might be an exception.

I think a lawyer would tell you to NOT use
a trademarked term in any domain name -
but what you can actually do may differ
from company to company.

Let it be said and known by all:

I ain't no attorney - Internet marketing
pays too well to waste my time on that kind
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Does anyone know the legality of doing something like this?
That's about as good an idea as standing in a lightning storm with a 20 foot iron pole in your hand.

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That's about as good an idea as standing in a lightning storm with a 20 foot iron pole in your hand.

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Are you sure?

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Are you sure?
Heh, think of that previous post as like playing with fire: you know you might
get burned.

Various jurisdictions' laws don't allow users to register and use domain names
that commercially infringe their trademark name-sakes. Domain - TM disputes
boil down to likelihood of confusion, which is what trademarks aim to prevent.

The more unique and famous the mark, the more likely people will confuse any
domain name bearing that mark with its holder. Hence, it's nearly impossible to
register, much more use, a site bearing a unique famous mark like Yahoo! and
Google.

One exception is if the domain name is being used in a non-commercial way,
much more non-competing and with consent from its mark holder. But that will
not stop them from aggressively protecting and enforcing their mark rights.

Long story short, it depends on who you're potentially dealing with. You might
as well avoid them...unless you're ready to play with fire.

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Its really promotion for google really, there are tons of marketers using google's name in products and and domain names,

Google knows it really more promotion for them that's why they don't crack down where others would.

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and tons more use the google name in some form.

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Its really promotion for google really, there are tons of marketers using google's name in products and and domain names,

Google knows it really more promotion for them that's why they don't crack down where others would.

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and tons more use the google name in some form.
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Does anyone know the legality of doing something like this?
I'm not sure what the legality is, but googlemasacre.com, googlewealthsystem.com, etc don't seem to be having problems with it.

And there are also countless product names using "google" "adwords" "adsense" etc.

I tried to use eBay in a domain name once and lost it...but it doesn't appear that google is out enforcing their trademarks, judging by how many of their trademarks are being used in domain names and in product names.

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Google's growing list of domains

Total domains are past 4,700 so yes they do take names...

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I agree. It is technically trademark infringement. Unless you can get permission from Google, you can't get a domain name with Google, AdWords or AdSense in it and use it.

It's a really common misconception that "if other people are doing it, it must be legal". That's simply not the case.

Don't buy the name to use unless you get permission first.

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Don't even bother, why risk getting sued?

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I used "realtor" in one of my domains in the past and I had to shut it down because of trademark issues. I guess the same apply to others. google or yahoo is no defferrent. I guess it's just massive brand name exposure which makes it difficult to track all those infringements.

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Here's an actual Google cease & desist letter sent to someone using the word Google in their domain name:
Domain Name Abuse: Sample Cease And Desist Letters For Google, Mass Mutual, And American Express

Just because it's possible to find websites using a trademarked word in their website URL that hasn't been shut down yet doesn't give you permission to do the same thing. Your buddy may not have gotten a D.U.I. yet for driving home drunk from the bar every night... does that mean it's legal?

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Yeah you can't do that. My friend owned 'blockbusterxxxx'(don't remember what the x's were) and he got sued for using the term 'blockbuster'.

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I know we have received "cease and desist" letters from eBay for having a good name that also contained eBay...

I wouldn't dare get into the legalities of having someones copywrited name in your domain name but I have had a few personal experiences where they got my attention so I just choose to stay away from them now.

That being said, there are many people running domains successfully who seem to never run into issues like that. I guess it is a matter of "do you feel lucky?" .

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I also received a cease and desist letter from eBay. I created a 40 page unique content website with eBay included in the domain name. I closed it down immediately, I did not realize I was doing anything wrong.

I would not risk your time and capital on something you may need to shutdown.

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Personally I don't know about Google or Yahoo - but a couple of years ago I registered a domain - it was something like "ebay-powerseller-reveals-all" - before I even got a site up ebay contacted me wanting assurances that I would not use - trade - sell the domain - just wrote it off and down to experience.

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Either way, don't brand yourself with another company. Adwords won't let you use the term in you ads anyway.

And yeah, ebay is really strict about it.

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Google has a fax form on their site where you can request permission from their marketing department to use their brand name in your domain or somewhere else. Only with filing that form and receiving an approval can you do so. I was allowed to use AdSense in a domain some years ago.

If you don't request and get permission, they WILL send their lawyers after you. You'll get a C&D and if you don't transfer the domain to them, they'll bring suit to force it and damages.

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