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Old 10-29-2009, 04:50 PM   #201
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Great Post.

I work in my pj's and make a great income! I profited over $30,000 so far this month. And you can do it, too!

I also bought all the guru products and with each purchase I found I always needed more information. I think every newbie should find a glossary of IM terms and educate themselves. Many of those "get rich quick" schemes have something to offer- but you must have the know-how, tools and skills to take action!

My best advice is to find a personal mentor! There are many mastermind groups here to join, too.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:58 PM   #202
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You wouldn't be promoting that $97 thing you're selling now would you? That's what irritates me.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:10 PM   #203
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In "Outliers" Malcom Gladwell describes a theory that says you need to invest 10,000 hours before you can achieve a level of competency that he calls "mastery". A few years ago, I think it was much easier to make a lot of money in internet marketing before you'd put in the time to acheive mastery. It's getting much more competitive now and I think unless you are incredibly smart or lucky or both it is very difficult to make a lot of money in internet marketing before you've learned the ropes.

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I've just read yet another post from a single-digit WF newbie asking (or maybe it was begging) for someone to tell them how to make money easily online.

Ok, big deal, they asked a harmless question. That's what being NEW is about. You cannnot fault a guy for that. Instead of posting another "tired" thread about mindset, why don't you redirect the person and correct their thinking?

Can you spot the word that makes the request a total nonsense?

Why is it nonsense? Because you said so?

Can you see the word that has doomed this newbie to fail?

No. One word will not cause ANYONE to fail.



Can you comprehend the mindset that makes failure inevitable?

No at all. A guy asks one question and you've got him already listed as a failure.

I'm sure you can.

The word is easily.

It might have been easy, easier or easiest.

Here is a wake up call: Internet marketing isn't easy.

Yaaaaawn

Sorry. It had to be said. Making money online - and I mean real money, pay the bills and feed the kids money, consistent, do-it-again-next-month money - that takes effort, skill, experience and work.

It ain't easy.

At least, not in the way you've interpreted the word.

Maybe you're the one that misinterpreted the word. Do you PM the newbie and offer help to clarify their thinking or do you just want them to buy your WSO?

You see, when we 'experienced' folk say that it is easy we are misleading you badly. We don't really mean easy in the sense that it is so dead simple that an elderly dog can be taught to do it for biscuits. It isn't a self-working party trick.

They why do you say it? That's the reason why so many people thing IM is easy. Because of guys like you.


When we say easy we mean that it isn't particularly hard or complicated, it doesn't require years of training and it certainly doesn't need the IQ if Einstein (thank goodness). But it does need consistent, focused, results-centric effort.

Complex, but not complicated.

Or to put it another way, work.

Sorry to burst the bubble.

Here's a radical idea. Why not go onto a forum for restauranteurs and ask them out of the blue how you can easily start a successful restaurant? Do you think they might laugh at you?

Comparing apples to cherries

I don't think the restaurant industry promotes how "easy" it is to start a business without a dime and little work like the IM industry does. When was the last time you saw a add about a restaurant that said: How to turn 2 hours a day into a full-time income".

You've never seen it. When was the last time you've seen a add like that for IM? Hell, I saw one in you signature.


How about plumbers? Try asking a bunch of them how you can easily make a grand a month with no outlay fixing people's radiators? Do you think they might think you're a bit crazy?

See above response.

Ah. you might say, "those are real life businesses - I'm talking about making money online."

SLAP! (I hope you felt that round the side of your head.)

Yaaawn

What makes you think that a business (for that is what making $1000 or more a month is) online is any different to one offline? Business is business and the people who understand that and treat it with the respect it requires are half way to doing well.

You're assuming a lot.

Making REAL money online isn't a game. Okay, at the lower end it can be a paying hobby, but for those of us who support our families and save money for a rainy day, this is real life.

And when you are just starting out, it isn't 'easy'.

Over time it does get easier, but if you are a newbie understand this: you will have to learn some skills, you will have to spend some money, you will have to work some things out for yourself, you will have to stand on your own feet, you will have to (cover your ears and eyes if you are of a nervous disposition) ...

Work.



I find your entire post to be tired and full of B.S.. You say one thing but your signature says another.









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I've just read yet another post from a single-digit WF newbie asking (or maybe it was begging) for someone to tell them how to make money easily online.

Can you spot the word that makes the request a total nonsense?

Can you see the word that has doomed this newbie to fail?

Can you comprehend the mindset that makes failure inevitable?

I'm sure you can.

The word is easily.

It might have been easy, easier or easiest.

Here is a wake up call: Internet marketing isn't easy.

Sorry. It had to be said. Making money online - and I mean real money, pay the bills and feed the kids money, consistent, do-it-again-next-month money - that takes effort, skill, experience and work.

It ain't easy.

At least, not in the way you've interpreted the word.

You see, when we 'experienced' folk say that it is easy we are misleading you badly. We don't really mean easy in the sense that it is so dead simple that an elderly dog can be taught to do it for biscuits. It isn't a self-working party trick.

When we say easy we mean that it isn't particularly hard or complicated, it doesn't require years of training and it certainly doesn't need the IQ if Einstein (thank goodness). But it does need consistent, focused, results-centric effort.

Complex, but not complicated.

Or to put it another way, work.

Sorry to burst the bubble.

Here's a radical idea. Why not go onto a forum for restauranteurs and ask them out of the blue how you can easily start a successful restaurant? Do you think they might laugh at you?

How about plumbers? Try asking a bunch of them how you can easily make a grand a month with no outlay fixing people's radiators? Do you think they might think you're a bit crazy?

Ah. you might say, "those are real life businesses - I'm talking about making money online."

SLAP! (I hope you felt that round the side of your head.)

What makes you think that a business (for that is what making $1000 or more a month is) online is any different to one offline? Business is business and the people who understand that and treat it with the respect it requires are half way to doing well.

Making REAL money online isn't a game. Okay, at the lower end it can be a paying hobby, but for those of us who support our families and save money for a rainy day, this is real life.

And when you are just starting out, it isn't 'easy'.

Over time it does get easier, but if you are a newbie understand this: you will have to learn some skills, you will have to spend some money, you will have to work some things out for yourself, you will have to stand on your own feet, you will have to (cover your ears and eyes if you are of a nervous disposition) ...

Work.


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Old 10-30-2009, 12:02 AM   #205
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How in the hell can you coach someone and you're just barely making it yourself? You're still a newbie yourself. What kind of scam are you running?

I find your "tough love" appraoch to be laughable at best.



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Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. I tell the newbies I coach that it won't be quick, it won't be easy, and I'm not handing anything to you on a platter. It's real work. Don't whine, don't bitch, just suck it up and get it done.

Hmmm, maybe I shoulda been a dominatrix.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:06 AM   #206
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Not EVERY single newbie is like that. HAve you met and talked to all of them? I think not.

Newbies think they can get rich because marketers say it in their hyped up sales pages all of the time.



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You know what makes me sick? That almost every single newbie thinks he can come online and get "rich" without investing anything.

Yeah yeah...there are those who would argue and say you can make money online without spending any. Problem is...you won't make much with that mentality and practicality.

It never is easy. Online marketing, online business......it's a BUSINESS not a hobby. Newbies, keep that in mind when you want to become "rich".


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Old 10-30-2009, 12:09 AM   #207
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Now here is a post the needs to be re-read.







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I think what a lot of experienced marketers need to learn is that it is not easy being a teacher.

Many people that write those How-To, Step-By-Step, guides have good intentions and are sincerely trying to show someone how to do it but showing and teaching are two different things.

We experienced marketers need to understand that just because we know how to make money online that does not mean that we are teachers. Teaching is a learned profession.

If you create a product that is advertised to show someone how to do something then before you launch it, run it through some test subjects first to see that it works.

If John Q. Marketer has learned a new way to implement an old technique, he should be able to teach the old technique to the new marketer before expecting the new marketer to understand the new implementation.

Or, state that his product is not for beginners. Unfortunately, since most marketers are not teachers or have ever been instructors of any type online or off, they don't even know how to evaluate their own product's level of instruction.

We are seeing a new version of "Why Johnny Can't Market".

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Old 10-30-2009, 12:16 AM   #208
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You nailed it!



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All right guys. Get off your high horses already.

1) I don't think almost all (like someone said) people think it's going to be easy.
2) I feel like these threads are not really for the newbies, but for people to hear themselves talk about how hard they work. It's basically an entire thread where people reword the original post about 1000 times.
3) I look forward to this same thread in about another month.
4) Do you ever notice how many "Thanks" a thread like this gets because people like to get all self righteous. Steve W take notice (he he)
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The testosterone in this thread makes me wonder why any woman would
want to spend an eternity with any man.

Simply amazing.

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Old 10-30-2009, 12:38 PM   #210
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The testosterone in this thread makes me wonder why any woman would
want to spend an eternity with any man.

Simply amazing.
ROFL....Steve, now I have to buy a new keyboard because I read your tidbit here right when I was drinking a Coke...

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