Newbies: Sorry to disappoint, but there is one word you've badly misunderstood ...

[Martin.Avis]

I've just read yet another post from a single-digit WF newbie asking (or maybe it was begging) for someone to tell them how to make money easily online.

Can you spot the word that makes the request a total nonsense?

Can you see the word that has doomed this newbie to fail?

Can you comprehend the mindset that makes failure inevitable?

I'm sure you can.

The word is easily.

It might have been easy, easier or easiest.

Here is a wake up call: Internet marketing isn't easy.

Sorry. It had to be said. Making money online - and I mean real money, pay the bills and feed the kids money, consistent, do-it-again-next-month money - that takes effort, skill, experience and work.

It ain't easy.

At least, not in the way you've interpreted the word.

You see, when we 'experienced' folk say that it is easy we are misleading you badly. We don't really mean easy in the sense that it is so dead simple that an elderly dog can be taught to do it for biscuits. It isn't a self-working party trick.

When we say easy we mean that it isn't particularly hard or complicated, it doesn't require years of training and it certainly doesn't need the IQ if Einstein (thank goodness). But it does need consistent, focused, results-centric effort.

Complex, but not complicated.

Or to put it another way, work.

Sorry to burst the bubble.

Here's a radical idea. Why not go onto a forum for restauranteurs and ask them out of the blue how you can easily start a successful restaurant? Do you think they might laugh at you?

How about plumbers? Try asking a bunch of them how you can easily make a grand a month with no outlay fixing people's radiators? Do you think they might think you're a bit crazy?

Ah. you might say, "those are real life businesses - I'm talking about making money online."

SLAP! (I hope you felt that round the side of your head.)

What makes you think that a business (for that is what making $1000 or more a month is) online is any different to one offline? Business is business and the people who understand that and treat it with the respect it requires are half way to doing well.

Making REAL money online isn't a game. Okay, at the lower end it can be a paying hobby, but for those of us who support our families and save money for a rainy day, this is real life.

And when you are just starting out, it isn't 'easy'.

Over time it does get easier, but if you are a newbie understand this: you will have to learn some skills, you will have to spend some money, you will have to work some things out for yourself, you will have to stand on your own feet, you will have to (cover your ears and eyes if you are of a nervous disposition) ...

Work.


Martin

[TheBeatles]

Well said, a lot of people stumble upon internet marketing through numerous ''make money online fast'' searches on google...and this frame of thought prevails when they start the IM game

[RGallowitz]

You know what makes me sick? That almost every single newbie thinks he can come online and get "rich" without investing anything.

Yeah yeah...there are those who would argue and say you can make money online without spending any. Problem is...you won't make much with that mentality and practicality.

It never is easy. Online marketing, online business......it's a BUSINESS not a hobby. Newbies, keep that in mind when you want to become "rich".


Regards,
Reinhardt

[susanm]

If it's not easy, then I want a refund on 95% of the IM products I have ever purchased. I also want to know what's so darn hard about turning "2 Hours Work Per Week Into a Full-Time 6-Figure Income" (see your sig). And I also want my damn biscuit! Woof! Er, I mean, meow.

[sbucciarel]

This frame of thought prevails because they are told over and over again that they can make thousands "easily" ... sometimes in the pajamas ... sometimes while sleeping ... even a caveman can do it ... and on and on and on.

If marketers were honest about it and told prospects that it will require work, the lazy ones would just move on and the serious ones might buy. So marketers are deliberately targeting the lazy people who want to believe and want the blueprint for making money online with little to no effort. This is what they are being promised.

[sbucciarel]

Originally Posted by susanm

If it's not easy, then I want a refund on 95% of the IM products I have ever purchased. I also want to know what's so darn hard about turning "2 Hours Work Per Week Into a Full-Time 6-Figure Income" (see your sig). And I also want my damn biscuit! Woof! Er, I mean, meow.

My point exactly.

[Martin.Avis]

Originally Posted by susanm

If it's not easy, then I want a refund on 95% of the IM products I have ever purchased. I also want to know what's so darn hard about turning "2 Hours Work Per Week Into a Full-Time 6-Figure Income" (see your sig). And I also want my damn biscuit! Woof! Er, I mean, meow.

Ah but that's the point. Two hours of work might be easy for me after 8 years of practice, but it certainly isn't easy for someone with 8 minutes experience. My WSO teaches all the stuff I've taken 8 years to learn, but I don't say that absorbing that knowledge is easy or requires no work at all.

It isn't difficult, but nothing good is ever completely handed to you on a plate either.

Effort in = rewards out.

Martin

[Kenster]

I think making money online IS easy ONCE YOU KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING.

But getting to that point where you know what youre doing ISNT easy.

I also think making 6 figures online IS MUCH EASIER than making 6 figures doing a "regular offline job" but again, easy is relative here. To be clear it is hard to go from knowing nothing about IM to six figures in a few months. Sorry noobs, its possible but it aint easy

[Lisa Gergets]

Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. I tell the newbies I coach that it won't be quick, it won't be easy, and I'm not handing anything to you on a platter. It's real work. Don't whine, don't bitch, just suck it up and get it done.

Hmmm, maybe I shoulda been a dominatrix.

[Martin.Avis]

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

This frame of thought prevails because they are told over and over again that they can make thousands "easily" ... sometimes in the pajamas ... sometimes while sleeping ... even a caveman can do it ... and on and on and on.

If marketers were honest about it and told prospects that it will require work, the lazy ones would just move on and the serious ones might buy. So marketers are deliberately targeting the lazy people who want to believe and want the blueprint for making money online with little to no effort. This is what they are being promised.

I don't think there is much deliberate dishonesy. When you have years of experience, stuff IS easy. That doesn't mean that acquiring that experience was easy - or even always pleasant.

I completely agree that we are guilty of misleading newbies by over use of the word easy - I'm certainly guilty myself - but my point is that the meaning behind the word is misunderstood. It is only easy IF you apply yourself, learn the lessons and build your personal knowledge base. Oh, and sometimes spend some money too.

So I guess my message is as much to experienced marketers to watch out for dangerous meanings to words and phrases we take for granted, as it is to newbies who have to learn to read between the lines.

Meanwhile, common sense should tell anyone that if making $1000 a month was really EASY then everyone would already be doing it.

Martin

[Martin.Avis]

Originally Posted by TinkerAndPo

Nothing worthwhile is ever easy.Hmmm, maybe I shoulda been a dominatrix.

Hey Tinks - with THAT attitude a grand a month should be chickenfeed!

Martin

[Lisa Gergets]

Originally Posted by Martin.Avis

Hey Tinks - with THAT attitude a grand a month should be chickenfeed!

Martin

A grand? Nah, I'm going for two this month. Nearly there, too.

[ScottTMc]

Well said, a lot of people stumble upon internet marketing through numerous ''make money online fast'' searches on google...and this frame of thought prevails when they start the IM game

Very true indeed, i dont think there is a make money fast option on the internet, its just somthing to lure people in to believe them

[CurtisN]

Originally Posted by Martin.Avis

The word is easily.

The word is easily what? Could you please give me your personal email address and/or home phone number so I can get further clarification (and 6 months free personal coaching)?

[Elmer Hurlstone]

Martin,

Amen, brother, amen!

Was answering a similar question posed by my two-doors-down neighbor a few days back.

He's a bit envious because I "don't work."

If he only knew...

Elmer

The obligatory PS. If the "Thanks Button" permitted me to actually say, "Amen, brother, amen" this post would have been unnecessary.

[bluegold14]

Originally Posted by Martin.Avis

Ah but that's the point. Two hours of work might be easy for me after 8 years of practice, but it certainly isn't easy for someone with 8 minutes experience. My WSO teaches all the stuff I've taken 8 years to learn, but I don't say that absorbing that knowledge is easy or requires no work at all.

It isn't difficult, but nothing good is ever completely handed to you on a plate either.

Effort in = rewards out.

Martin

All I've seen online, specially from most IMarketers, is hype, hype, hype and false promises.

Your signature is just a crystal clear example. If my understanding of written English is correct, it states that anyone who wants to make a six-figure income working only two hours a week just needs to buy your WSO. And nowhere can I read that "8 years of practice" is required.

But I'm just a dumb newbie looking for the easy way...

"And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?"

[Chris-]

I am amused that all these experienced internet sellers complaining that Newbies think it's "Easy" . . . OF COURSE THEY DO, because that's what's MARKETED at them all day, by most of YOU!!!!

A lot of the people complaining that newbies think it should be easy are the same people marketing stuff at them that makes them think it's instant, easy, free, etc etc.

Come on, open your eyes! Ridiculous comparing internet biz to plumbing or restaurant businessnes . . . not many people making fortunes telling people those businesses are instant, easy, free to start etc.

I am frustrated by how many people make money out of emailing lists of people with nonsense like "complete course on how to make millions from blogging" which turns out to be instructions on how to set up Wordpress. And then those same people complain that newbies somehow get the impression it should be easy! Sure, knowing how to setup WordPress is useful, but it's NOT all that's needed to make a fortune from Blogs . . . saying it is, is simply dishonest.

If you want people to think it's work, stop telling them it's not.

The title of this post should be "sorry newbies WE'VE misled you and made a fortune doing so, by marketing lies at you constantly, and now we act all shocked when you believe the lies we sell you"


Chris

[Martin.Avis]

Originally Posted by bluegold14

Your signature is just a crystal clear example. If my understanding of written English is correct, it states that anyone who wants to make a six-figure income working only two hours a week just needs to buy your WSO. And nowhere can I read that "8 years of practice" is required.

But I'm just a dumb newbie looking for the easy way...

"And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?"

There is no hype or deception in my signature line. It is merely an honest headline that says what I do. If you were to click it, the sales page doesn't claim that the process is easy - it simply says that it is easy for me now and that I'll teach the stuff I learned that has made it easy now.

It actually says:

"One of the first things I learned was that getting a list was the easy part. But getting that list to wait avidly for your ezine to arrive, getting them to read every word the instant it hits their inbox and then getting them to want to put money in your pocket - well, those are skills you have to develop."

"Skills that you can learn too - and a lot faster than the eight years they took me to acquire!"

"The way I write a newsletter can be done, with a bit of practice, in just two hours a week and those two hours can, when you've established yourself, make you a full-time online income. I can say that with absolute confidence because it is exactly what I do."

It doesn't say that the road will be easy, but it does say that I'll guide you through the things I've learned that work.

But I didn't come here to sell or defend my WSO - it is pretty much over anyway.

As to specks in eyes, it would be wrong to think that just because I say we should be careful how 'easy' we make things appear to newbies that I am against selling 'how-to' products to them. Far from it - without a lot of how-to books over the years I would never have 'made it'.

But we should be careful to make it clear that one-click work-free solutions are for the most part a myth. And what's easy for me might be excruciatingly difficult for you.

Martin

[Harvey Segal]

Originally Posted by bluegold14

All I've seen online, specially from most IMarketers, is hype, hype, hype and false promises.

Your signature is just a crystal clear example.

Sorry to tell you this but unfortunately you have picked
on the greatest example on the net of a NON-hype marketer.

Harvey

[Martin.Avis]

Originally Posted by Chris-

The title of this post should be "sorry newbies WE'VE misled you and made a fortune doing so, by marketing lies at you constantly, and now we act all shocked when you believe the lies we sell you"

Mea culpa.

Well, by association anyway. I agree that hype drive marketing messages have helped create the problem. I like to think that my own marketing is less hypey that most, but I guess I'm part of the problem to some degree.

But that is only a part of the problem. A far bigger component is the entitlement mentality that is so prevalent. The 'I want it now and I want it fast' attitude from people who don't want a business plan or a detailed step-by-step how-to manual - they just want a magic wand.

Oh, and if you don't think this corrosive attitide applies to offline businesses, ask yourself why 90% of them fail in their first year.

A lot of people would rather dream than work.

Martin

[Fernando Veloso]

Martin, wise words my friend. Wise words.

Too many people think IM is just easy as hit a couple buttons and there you go - and frankly sometimes IT IS just like that.

But we need to get a higher state of consciousness to be that short. We need to learn, test, re-test, re-learn, re-test and finally succeed.

Even with automation tools - the 2010 buzz - it's clear for me that only those who know hat buttons to hit will succeed - as always.

If one has the machine but not the knowledge, he will fail.

Originally Posted by susanm

And I also want my damn biscuit! Woof! Er, I mean, meow.

lol, i needed that. Do you write cartoons?

[yommys01]

Great post man. I think everyone of us including the op ( right? ) have made the same mistake in the past. I remember when I first started, I thought it was going to be easy but it never was easy.

It only gets easy when you have known the ins and outs of IM. The good thing is that you can be away from the computer and still make money but not until you have established your presence on the internet.

[yourreviewer]

I think the problem comes with the mindset of "make money online". It sounds so attractive, doesn't it, I mean who wouldn't want to sit in front of the computer in their underpants and start "making money" The barrier to entry is almost nil but the failure rate is very high because as long as you treat it as a "make money" you are always going to chase the next ebook or course or seminar.

I just love the way Earl Nightingale explained about how to become successful in life and business. "The only people who make money work in a mint" Below is the video for those interested.

The Strangest Secret in the World Earl Nightingale, troymgmt.com, sgrclub, these

[James Clark]

Martin,

I have been during this for a few years and easy is one word I would not use to describe the Internet Marketing Business. What worked years ago doesn't work anymore. This business changes faster than a politician mind.

Jimmy.

[Lisa Gergets]

the entitlement mentality that is so prevalent

BINGO!

It appears we have a winner, folks!

[bat777]

I beg to differ on your response that every "newbie plans to make quick cash" I am a newbie and I knew it would take several hours of research, reading.trial and error etc. I've done my due diligence for months and still haven't found a way to make it all worth the time I've put in to trying!

So please don't categorize us all in the same sentence.

[Lady_T]

I've had some tough jobs in my
day from tobacco fields to building
actuators in a factory.

Online marketing is by far the
easiest thing I've done so far...

BUT it's still work. And there's
a heck of a lot to learn before
you can get anywhere.

Easy...HECK NO...better than
working in a tobacco field
HECK YEAH!

So I don't complain. I do the
work. I've lived the alternative
and I like this job much much
better.

[JohnMcCabe]

Easy is one of those words that has a hard time standing on its own. It really has no meaning without some context propping it up.

Making money online IS easy - compared to laying sod in the Florida sun when it's 90F and 90% humidity. It IS easy, compared to schlepping trays of food and taking abuse for tips.

On the other hand, making money online is hard - compared to drawing money from a trust fund. Or whining about how tough it is to make money online.

Making money online is like any other skill. Spend enough time in properly guided practice, and over time your skills will improve to the limits of your innate ability. And like a miracle shot on the golf course, from time to time you'll exceed those limitations for a huge payday.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Not that Martin needs me to rush to his defense with all these attacks
against him, but let me add my own 2 cents to this problem.

When I first started online I was clueless. I was probably a bigger failure
than 98% of the people here. I made $28 in my first 5 months.

I too blamed all the sales letters telling me how easy it was. But the truth is,
as I looked back at my progress, there were 3 things that I did that ruined
me at the start.

1. I didn't take the time to REALLY learn the principles.
2. I didn't stick with one thing long enough.
3. I didn't put in the correct effort.

Let me expand on that last one a bit.

A lot of people will get a "how to make money" product and go through the
steps, thinking that they are doing everything correctly when in fact,
they are either leaving things out or doing some things poorly.

I'll give you an example of a simple process that makes me a steady income
on a regular basis. And when I share it, almost everybody here will agree
that it's pretty common stuff and will even admit that it's a viable option
to marketing.

1. Find a product at Clickbank.
2. Write articles on the niche and submit to directories.
3. Write a review of the product and put it on a blog.
4. Drive traffic from the article to the blog.

Pretty simple, right?

Do you have ANY idea how many pitfalls there are to this process along
the way?

1. Finding a product that converts.
2. Writing a good article that gets read.
3. Writing a good resource box that gets people to your article.
4. Submitting to the right directories.
5. Heck, just picking the right niche.
6. Writing a good and convincing review without sounding like a sales pitch.

Now, the product could go step by step through this whole process,
telling you exactly what to do, but guess what?

If you can't write, you're up the creek without a paddle.

Is it the product's fault?

What if the product actually included a whole book on how to write
articles?

Guess what?

No talent...no results.

Not everybody can learn to write.

So when I put up a sales page that says, "This is what I do and this is
what I get from doing it" I am in no way misleading anybody. I make no
guarantees that you'll make even one dime. I simply say that by following
these steps you have a good chance to start earning some money.

And the truth is, you do. But it's not a guarantee.

Nothing in life is.

And that's the problem. That's what people are looking for.

I can't tell you how many emails I get with people asking me things like...

"How soon will I start making money with this if I get it?"

My answer?

"Nobody can make you any promises or guarantees. There are too many
variables involved including how hard you're willing to work. If you're looking
for a guarantee, look elsewhere."

Personally, if I were to use that system I just outlined, I'd be making
money within a week tops.

Why?

I know what products to look for.
I know what niches to pick.
I know how to write a product review.
I know how to write an article.
I know how to construct a killer call to action resource box.
I know what directories to submit to.

I can try to teach you all the above, sure.

But here is what I can't guarantee.

1. That after reading the info you'll become a great article writer.
2. That you'll become a great resource box creator.
3. That you'll become a great product reviewer.

Ultimately, how good these skills become will come down to how hard you
work at honing your craft.

It would be like a pro basketball coach showing you every move that
Michael Jordan has in his arsenal.

Guess what?

If you don't have the physical skills or can't acquire them, it won't matter.

That is why I have said this a hundred times, even though so many people
don't agree with me, I don't care how good an instruction manual is. Some
people do not have the smarts to learn the material proficiently enough to
be able to make it work for them.

Does that make marketers liars?

No. No more than it makes colleges liars when they claim that your child
will get the best education there.

That education is only as good as the effort the student puts into learning
the material.

Is there crap out there?

Sure there is.

But even I could take crap that has at least some value in it (perhaps one
tip that is viable) and turn it into extra income because...

1. I am able to understand the point being made.
2. I am able to execute it properly due to my existing experience.

As you do this more and more, unless you are truly dense, you will begin
to find that it gets easier to understand and implement things, if for no
other reason than through pure repetition.

It took me 5 months to finally put a dent into my income. And even at
that, I was only making about $1,200 to $1,500 a month for over a year
before I had my next breakthrough.

Now...with everything I have learned, if you took it all away from me today
and forced me to start all over, I know exactly what I would do and it
would earn me a quarter million dollars inside of one month. I'd outsource
all the work and be done with it. I wouldn't piss around with things like I've
been doing up to now.

But I'm lucky. I don't have to start all over. I work about an hour a day
now a few days a week and because of all the content and products I
have out there (6 plus years of blood, sweat and tears) I can still make
a nice monthly income without having to kill myself.

It didn't come easy and it didn't come overnight.

Those of us who understand that it takes work understand what I'm saying.

Those of us still looking for that magic button will never understand what
I'm saying.

[Aljiro]

Very well said.

I personally believe "Starting" is the hardest part of "Anything". At some point you will be in the beginning. There's no getting around that fact

I strongly agree with your message. I specially like the "you will have to work" part

[bat777]

Chris-

I want to THANK you for your comment on Newbies. It's 100% so true what you say. Too many trust others and sad but true that is a big problem.

[Lisa Gergets]

Steven, that post should be stickied and be required reading for all new members of WF.

[LegitIncomes]

It's may not be as "easy" as they want to believe......

But, I wouldn't classify it as hard either.
Anyone should be able to put in 4-5 hours a day and build a profitable business from scratch. Now that's 4-5 hours a day of actual work, not watching TV, checking email, facebook, etc....

[keyaziz]

I don't get why people are scared of something being hard. I enjoy being challenged - it makes it more interesting and fun.

[Chris-]

Originally Posted by bat777

I beg to differ on your response that every "newbie plans to make quick cash" I am a newbie and I knew it would take several hours of research, reading.trial and error etc. I've done my due diligence for months and still haven't found a way to make it all worth the time I've put in to trying!

So please don't categorize us all in the same sentence.

Yes, good point. I'm in that same category now . . . at first I believed the hype, spent the time failing and learning that it's not really like the marketing pretends, then started learning how it really works. I've been learning for a long time, putting in thousands of hours of work (mostly doing things that fail utterly, but, I'm gradually learning), still learning, and will get workable results eventually!

Sure, one can complain about the hype, but that's reality, not much use in complaining really (although it can be fun!) . . . see things as they really are . . . ie. the marketing is very far from the truth, find out how to learn what really works.

If any of the more experienced members wants to know what I find the biggest problem in learning . . . one buys a few courses, does EXACTLY what the course says, and fails utterly . . . then what??? One is already following the instructions to the best of ones ability, there are no instructions on what to do to improve when you're already doing what they say and it just plain doesn't work! I guess what the courses should say is . . . follow the instructions, then get onto the Warrior forum to find out all the things missing from the instructions, and all the things you've misunderstood, etc.

I know it's a challenge teaching people to do what you can do. There's so many things that you do subconsciously that you'd forget to mention, or can't really put into words. So I know it's a challenge, and I guess one shouldn't really expect these much-hyped courses to really teach you what you need to know . . . what I am finding in practice is that one needs to ask a LOT of questions, do a lot of trial and error etc. like in any subject.


Chris

[ForeignProfessor]

Can it be easy if you have a good enough idea? I think it might be.

I suspect sites like failblog, thereIfixedit, stuffwhitepeoplelike and other similar viral blogs were started with little investment and made money easily.

If you have a good enough original idea I think it's possible to make money easily. 99.9% of people can't come up with an original idea good enough though.

[Lisa Gergets]

Originally Posted by ForeignProfessor

Can it be easy if you have a good enough idea? I think it might be.

I suspect sites like failblog, thereIfixedit, stuffwhitepeoplelike and other similar viral blogs were started with little investment and made money easily.

If you have a good enough original idea I think it's possible to make money easily. 99.9% of people can't come up with an original idea good enough though.

It's still not going to be easy. Viral blogs like those you mentioned are a one-in-a-million chance.

[bobsedge]

Steven,

I think you summed this up very well.

Let's face it, being in business is difficult. There are a lot more failures along the way than successes.

I think the problem is the hype. New people starting out have to be told about the pitfalls.

When I used to hire salespeople, the first thing I would teach them is that they will have a close rate that matches their skill level and technique. Maybe it's 10%, which means they will have to make ten calls on average to achieve a sale. If their expectation was to close 100 percent, they would probably quit before they succeeded.

Some of the hype in internet marketing can lead people, not in the know, to believe that will succeed if they simply follow a particular formula.

The problem is, there is no formula. Each niche is different and what works for one, may not work for another. Now, that is ok if you know it. So if a new person were told that they would have to test ten niches to find the one that will make them money, I think most would tolerate the process.

But instead, many new people go in thinking it's going to EASY and aren't willing to fail. Failure is a required lesson in this business (and really any business) and it's really the best teacher.

The best advise is to learn as much as you can so you can apply different approaches to different markets to reduce the number of failures. But if you learn just one approach, fine, but understand that you will likely need to keep on plugging away until that approach matches a particular market.

[ForeignProfessor]

Originally Posted by TinkerAndPo

It's still not going to be easy. Viral blogs like those you mentioned are a one-in-a-million chance.

I bet the people who made them didn't make half a million unsuccessful blogs first. They had a good idea, implemented it and made money. If one has a mind that works in this way it could be an easy way to make money.

Of course most people don't have ideas as good as this and so they have to take the more traditional routes of affiliate marketing or creating their own products or some other tried and trusted route. People following these routes will indeed have to learn a lot and either work a lot or outsource a lot. For most people, it won't be easy.

However I would urge anyone interested in making money online to have a good think about whether they actually do have any good 'ideas'. They just might.

[Martin.Avis]

Originally Posted by Scott Million

Sometimes we forget where we started...

I was asking the same things when I first joined this forum and I figured it out.

Me too!

My OP wasn't to say to newbies 'look how much I know and how much you don't'. Quite the opposite. It was intended to say 'look how much you WILL know when you've put in the sweat and the hours and have gained some valuable experience.'

I'm certainly not intending to bash newbies. Beginners in any business are its lifeblood. And as I say - probably a little too often - we are ALL newbies at something, no matter how experienced we might be.

I get very quickly lost and confused at some aspects of Intenet marketing - even now - and even though I read books that tell me how easy it all is, I know that for ME it never will be. because my mind simply doesn't process the information.

It doesn't meant that the writer of the book was lying to me by saying or implying that it was easy - it probably IS easy to him. Just not to me. I know that to master that particular skill will take me a lot of effort and some hard concentration.

Martin

[Martin.Avis]

Originally Posted by whitney01

Very well said.. there are lot of people think that they can make money online easily. Or i mean they can find online job and in an instant they can earn a big amount of money. Well i think there's nothing like that. Even working online needs a lot of time. effort and patience so you can earn money and find a legitimate online works..

A first post from someone who gets it! Welcome to the forum!

Martin

[Neromancer]

The law of reciprocity states that the more we give to others the more we get back from them. I like the advice here and we need to temper our own arrogance with the thoughts of
others; we help them they help us back - who knows who the next big IM god (dess) might be?

Guess what THAT person will remember our words to them. Good and bad and even
instructional -

[Shaun OReilly]

As the saying goes:

The only place where success comes before work is in
the dictionary.

To succeed in any business requires dedication and hard
work - especially in the early days when you're building
up your knowledge, skills, habits and attitude around IM.

Remember that EVERY single Internet Marketer started
out knowing sweet fanny adams about how to do this
business.

And yes, that includes Frank Kern, John Reese and all
the other supposed gurus.

Everyone has to start somewhere but the most important
thing is to get started on something - anything.

It will take hard work, persistance and dogged determination.

To think otherwise is naive.

Look into the background stories of any successful Internet
Marketer and you'll find a history laden with failure and
frustration as well as success.

Just because this is an Internet business, doesn't mean
that the technology somehow magically comes to your
aid and removes the need for work.

There is no magic button that turns your computer into
an ATM.

The key I think is to choose ONE way of making money on
the Internet that suits YOU, your strengths and your
talents.

Find the Internet business that fits you like a hand fits
a glove.

Once you do that, it becomes easier, but not easy.

If you choose a business that matches your talents,
things become even easier.

Dedicated to your success,

*Shaun O'Reilly

P.S. I'm a keen guitarist and have numerous DVDs and guitar
tab books that show me - step-by-step and note-by-note
how to play all of the Jimi Hendrix riffs. It doesn't make
me Hendrix though because the talent is missing from
my DNA in that area - no matter how much I practice or
put the effort in!

[DAS_Matt]

The better way to ask would be what is the SMARTEST way to make money on the internet. I firmly believe in the "work smarter, not harder" philosophy.

[Harvey Segal]

Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly

There is no magic button that turns your computer into
an ATM.

Not necessarily so . . .





Harvey


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[Harvey Segal]

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Dang it, Harvey...you forgot to make it a live link!

Tina

It was deliberate.

(Complying with forum rules)


Harvey


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[kurtlehmann]

You mean the ad lied? I can't just pay $1 for a cd that will show me everything and be making $10k a month right away..........
Haha, thanks for the chuckle -
Making money with IM is possible - but definately not easy. It takes and education. Just like anything else - you can either invest money (like college) or time (school of hard knocks) but to think you can pick this up over night is insane.
Actually out of all the things I had to learn to make money over the years - IM is the hardest.

[dizen]

Amen to that It's easy once you know the right way to do it. I found it through many trial and errors

Originally Posted by Kenster

I think making money online IS easy ONCE YOU KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING.

But getting to that point where you know what youre doing ISNT easy.

I also think making 6 figures online IS MUCH EASIER than making 6 figures doing a "regular offline job" but again, easy is relative here. To be clear it is hard to go from knowing nothing about IM to six figures in a few months. Sorry noobs, its possible but it aint easy

[Matt Maiden]

I think what a lot of experienced marketers need to learn is that it is not easy being a teacher.

Many people that write those How-To, Step-By-Step, guides have good intentions and are sincerely trying to show someone how to do it but showing and teaching are two different things.

We experienced marketers need to understand that just because we know how to make money online that does not mean that we are teachers. Teaching is a learned profession.

If you create a product that is advertised to show someone how to do something then before you launch it, run it through some test subjects first to see that it works.

If John Q. Marketer has learned a new way to implement an old technique, he should be able to teach the old technique to the new marketer before expecting the new marketer to understand the new implementation.

Or, state that his product is not for beginners. Unfortunately, since most marketers are not teachers or have ever been instructors of any type online or off, they don't even know how to evaluate their own product's level of instruction.

We are seeing a new version of "Why Johnny Can't Market".

Matt

[VinnyBock]

Originally Posted by susanm

If it's not easy, then I want a refund on 95% of the IM products I have ever purchased. I also want to know what's so darn hard about turning "2 Hours Work Per Week Into a Full-Time 6-Figure Income" (see your sig). And I also want my damn biscuit! Woof! Er, I mean, meow.

That is pretty funny, a well written post with a good point you got across, but your sig is the root of the problem.