Make your PDF look cooler

Quilst · 10-23-2009, 01:21 PM

For all of you who are making e-books you should really consider to put some background in your pdf's. Why? Because it looks better and more professional. In this video I covered some basics of Word and a free PDF converter that doesn't put any watermarks.

Here's the result of PDF:
http://www.arhicon.com/template.pdf

Here's the video:
http://www.arhicon.com/4.mp4

Here's the link to free PDF converter:
PDF Converter - Convert to PDF Online Free

Hope this will help you lower your refunds and increase your sales

God bless,

Dominik

Dan C. Rinnert · 10-23-2009, 02:39 PM

It may look "cooler" but it doesn't look more professional. That may not be the case with other backgrounds, but with this example, it is hard to read the text against that background. If that were an eBook, I'd likely ask for a refund because there is no way I would try to read page after page of something like that.

chrisgarrett · 10-23-2009, 02:41 PM

I think it depends entirely on the market/niche. One of my clients got complaints from customers that she had included too many large colour graphics which increased download size and that printing it out was unnecessarily expensive!

Asher · 10-23-2009, 02:44 PM

Hi Dominik,

Great concept. But as Dan stated... cool doesn't
work unless it helps get the point of the content
across.

Even though it looks cool and it's a new flavour,
it may be hard for many to read.

If it were up to me, I'd use a design but only at the
sides or up top/down bottom where it does NOT
conflict with the written word.

Also... your video - I can't hear a single word my man.

Asher

Michael Oksa · 10-23-2009, 02:47 PM

I think the main point is that you should really think about more than just the words in your PDF. How it looks counts, too.

I try to give my PDFs a nice look. Readable formatting, footers (sometimes headers), clickable table of contents, a little bit of color, and a title page can go a long way to giving your words a more professional look.

All the best,
Michael

p.s. I like that you said we should "consider" it, instead of telling everyone it's the best way.

George Wright · 10-23-2009, 02:47 PM

Hi,

Yes, templates do have their place.

Thanks for the video. Interesting.

George Wright

Gene Pimentel · 10-23-2009, 02:49 PM

I personally hate pdf's that use backgrounds. I'm not buying for the art, I'm buying for the content. I also want to be able to print just black & white.

Steven Carl Kelly · 10-23-2009, 03:27 PM

It looks interesting but the example was too difficult for me to read.

Kevin Barnes · 10-23-2009, 04:00 PM

I like it... but it kinda of funny how the products I spend the least amount of time on and that looks like crap is what make me the most money...

For example: I have a wordpress website with the default theme showing... and for some reason it converts better then the ones I spen more time on designing!..

Of course its not the make money niche... so maybe that's why?

Slin · 10-23-2009, 04:03 PM

Cool! I can see many uses for this, definitely a good find.

Yes it can be hard to read, but if you do it right it is fine.

You could always offer two downloads: The normal one and an Easy printing one.

Quilst · 10-23-2009, 04:15 PM

Too bad my video is so quiet...

Somebody mentioned about not buying that art crap :P - I think it depends in witch niche are you in.

I must agree that it's low on contrast and hard to read. Maybe it would look good to put only graphics up and down.

*sigh*

Asher · 10-23-2009, 04:27 PM

Hey man, don't be down. Take this as feedback...
better to find out about it now than to start a whole
business only to find out about it then!

Take care!

Asher

BrianMcLeod · 10-23-2009, 04:32 PM

A nice full-bleed color cover is fine... better than fine actually.

It conveys professional touch and shows at least some effort went into producing the document with a modicum of style.

Full-bleed color page backgrounds?

Huh uh...

Harder to read, screws up printing for people and in general is better suited for "magazine" style newsletters or layouts.

My 2 cents...

Brian

Bev Clement · 10-23-2009, 05:49 PM

I first tested this in 2007, and would suggest you put it as a background and then untick the washout, it works better.

Also, if you do this, make sure you put a simple black and white copy for people who want to print it

10-23-2009, 01:21 PM	#1
Quilst Upload/download freak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 474 Thanks: 111 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts Contact Info	Make your PDF look cooler For all of you who are making e-books you should really consider to put some background in your pdf's. Why? Because it looks better and more professional. In this video I covered some basics of Word and a free PDF converter that doesn't put any watermarks. Here's the result of PDF: http://www.arhicon.com/template.pdf Here's the video: http://www.arhicon.com/4.mp4 Here's the link to free PDF converter: PDF Converter - Convert to PDF Online Free Hope this will help you lower your refunds and increase your sales God bless, Dominik
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10-23-2009, 02:39 PM	#2
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Asher SG Lurker Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore. Posts: 1,713 Blog Entries: 68 Thanks: 486 Thanked 280 Times in 159 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Make your PDF look cooler Hi Dominik, Great concept. But as Dan stated... cool doesn't work unless it helps get the point of the content across. Even though it looks cool and it's a new flavour, it may be hard for many to read. If it were up to me, I'd use a design but only at the sides or up top/down bottom where it does NOT conflict with the written word. Also... your video - I can't hear a single word my man. Asher
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Michael Oksa The Ethical Marketer War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 6,054 Thanks: 1,750 Thanked 3,018 Times in 1,337 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Make your PDF look cooler I think the main point is that you should really think about more than just the words in your PDF. How it looks counts, too. I try to give my PDFs a nice look. Readable formatting, footers (sometimes headers), clickable table of contents, a little bit of color, and a title page can go a long way to giving your words a more professional look. All the best, Michael p.s. I like that you said we should "consider" it, instead of telling everyone it's the best way.
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Kevin Barnes Kevin Barnes War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 82 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Make your PDF look cooler I like it... but it kinda of funny how the products I spend the least amount of time on and that looks like crap is what make me the most money... For example: I have a wordpress website with the default theme showing... and for some reason it converts better then the ones I spen more time on designing!.. Of course its not the make money niche... so maybe that's why?
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Slin HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 472 Thanks: 83 Thanked 81 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Make your PDF look cooler Cool! I can see many uses for this, definitely a good find. Yes it can be hard to read, but if you do it right it is fine. You could always offer two downloads: The normal one and an Easy printing one.

10-23-2009, 04:15 PM	#11
Quilst Upload/download freak Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 474 Thanks: 111 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts Contact Info	Re: Make your PDF look cooler Too bad my video is so quiet... Somebody mentioned about not buying that art crap :P - I think it depends in witch niche are you in. I must agree that it's low on contrast and hard to read. Maybe it would look good to put only graphics up and down. sigh
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Asher SG Lurker Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore. Posts: 1,713 Blog Entries: 68 Thanks: 486 Thanked 280 Times in 159 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Make your PDF look cooler Hey man, don't be down. Take this as feedback... better to find out about it now than to start a whole business only to find out about it then! Take care! Asher
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BrianMcLeod Fingers of Fury War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA. Posts: 2,110 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 1,289 Thanked 1,486 Times in 637 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Make your PDF look cooler A nice full-bleed color cover is fine... better than fine actually. It conveys professional touch and shows at least some effort went into producing the document with a modicum of style. Full-bleed color page backgrounds? Huh uh... Harder to read, screws up printing for people and in general is better suited for "magazine" style newsletters or layouts. My 2 cents... Brian
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