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Old 10-26-2009, 10:35 AM   #1
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Default EZA Accusing Legitimate Article Writers of Keyword Spamming?

Hello,

I decided to get some articles on EZA for the usual "traffic reasons". Instead of breaking my head into writing an article, I used one from my blog. Believe me, I picked an article that was really damn good, since it was written primarily for my blog.

Copied everything in EZA. Made some fine adjustments. After a couple of previews, hit "Submit!". And all of a sudden, EZA throws an error that a certain word has a density of 2.4%, which was unacceptable. Removed one of its instance. Another error, 2.2%. Removed one more.

And now it got accepted. A little math tells me that each instance of the word accounted for .2%. So if a certain word's density if more than 2%, EZA would reject it without a second thought.

But let me tell you the real problem. The instances of the words I used were legitimate (What do you expect from a 400 words article?). Having to remove them did make it a little unreadable. This was not an intentional keyword spamming I did.

Anyone else has experienced this? I am certain that we can sometime unknowingly exceed the 2% limit. There is a limit to the number of pronouns and other grammatical atrocities we can put in.

So, what's your ideas? How do you keep the density down, if at all you exceed it?

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Old 10-26-2009, 10:46 AM   #2
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Default Re: EZA Accusing Legitimate Article Writers of Keyword Spamming?

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The instances of the words I used were legitimate
They were legitimate to you, yes, but when you're asking EZA to publish your article on their site, guess what? They get to decide what's "legitimate".

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This was not an intentional keyword spamming I did.
Of course not. It makes no difference to them whether or not it's intentional. The part of the process you're describing is automated. How could it possibly judge what's "intentional"?

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I am certain that we can sometime unknowingly exceed the 2% limit.
Of course we can. But fortunately for all concerned, they have an automated warning process there to save everyone from a lot of time and trouble and make it easier for them (in this specific regard) to comply with EZA editorial policies.

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How do you keep the density down, if at all you exceed it?
I do what you've just described, of course. It isn't a problem at all.

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Old 10-26-2009, 11:09 AM   #3
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Default Re: EZA Accusing Legitimate Article Writers of Keyword Spamming?

The solution is called synonyms and they work very well.

Crack open a thesaurus, plug in the keyword and start replacing.

It's that simple.

Or you can do something like this, to make it even more generic.

Say you're writing about acne.

Instead of saying, "If you are suffering from acne"

you could say, "If you are suffering from this condition"

That's one less instance.

If you can't keep your keyword saturation under 2% then you're not
a writer, IMO.

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If you can't keep your keyword saturation under 2% then you're not a writer, IMO.
SNAP! :-)
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:34 PM   #5
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Default Re: EZA Accusing Legitimate Article Writers of Keyword Spamming?

you can always put a dash - in between the words and it won't count as a keyword.

for example: if you overuse the term "extension cords", you can change some to "extension-cords"

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Old 10-26-2009, 02:14 PM   #6
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I wouldn't take it personally. Alexa is right, it's just an automated filter that sounds the alarm at 2%. I hit it sometimes and it only takes a minute or two to swap in a synonym or rewrite a sentence here or there. It some cases you only have to drop an S at the end to make your keyword plural.

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Neither my blogs, sites, Joomla or CM systems ever make such wild accusations about my writing

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Default Re: EZA Accusing Legitimate Article Writers of Keyword Spamming?

Keyword stuffing doesn't just look bad to EZA, but looks bad to the readers. Using a word too often gets redundant, which leads to annoyed readers --> not likely to click on any links.

Steven Wagenheim already mentioned it - the thesaurus is your friend.

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Old 10-26-2009, 02:38 PM   #9
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Don't take it personally, just write under the 2% or move on to another directory or write for your own personal site.

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I'm with Steve and the others on this one. I usually don't worry too much about word density and prefer to have a sprinkling of synonyms and related words throughout the article as it tends to read more naturally and it helps to show the relevance of the content to the title,

For instance, acne can also be described as acne vulgaris, skin condition, skin inflammation, pimples, pimply, inflammatory skin disease, clogged hair follicles, inflammatory condition, inflammatory eruptions, inflammation of the skin, disorder of the skin, skin disorder and skin eruption. I'd also include related terms such as whiteheads and blackheads.

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I do understand that. My concern was not at all about EZA insulting me (who cares?), but I was just asking if the 2% limit comes in the way of others. The response widely suggests that it doesn't.

As everyone suggested, I'll use synonyms. I'm sorry for all the nonsense I've caused.

But I don't see how "not being able to keep my keyword density less than 2%" deprives me of being a writer.

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