Why do we bother with ezine articles?

[Cryp]

Hey warriors;

It just hit me, why are we so ezinearticles obsessed? I mean honestly, their good but not that spectacular. Building links to a go-article will probably give you the same result as an ezine. Furthermore I just watched a video where articlebase outranked ezinearticles.

They don't allow affiliate links, they reject articles more often than a blonde supermodel rejects drunk guys at a bar. Are they REALLY that big a deal?!

[TheRichJerksNet]

Why do some bother creating threads about EZA ? If you do not like them then do not use them .... I outrank EZA and so do many other sites...

Article on site or EZA first ?

James

[policy]

My title: Why does everyone complain about ezine articles.

It just strikes me, why does everyone dislike ezinearticles so much? I mean, seriously, if you don't like it, go to another platform. Building links to your blog would be more beneficial and give you better results. Also, I just read a thread about someone bashing ezinearticles, and I thought, why not go submit to an article site such as articlebase?



@Cryp, you can purchase a .info for 99 cents and forward it to an affiliate link. Also, in my case (total of 11 articles- yes I am sort of new into publishing articles on ezinearticles), I had none that got rejected, and I was promoted to platinum status once I submitted my 8'th article.

If it isn't giving you decent results, try another platform such as ... your own website or another article directory, etc.

[Cryp]

I am not bashing ezinearticles (atleast that is not my intention :P) - I am just curious as to why they are so hyped up and the article directory that everyone submits to when we can just as easily submit it somewhere else with better results and fewer headaches.

[kindsvater]

There are stories that Google loves EA and thus writing an article for their site is an easy way to get a first page search result which links back to your website.

Whether that is indeed true or not I don't know. What I can tell you is that if I ever see an EA article at the top of the search listing for a keyword I want to target, I know it's easy to beat with my own domain.

[TheRichJerksNet]

There is a 10 page thread already on this ... My point, why start another one ? Not "everybody" submits to EZA.. You say "we" as in all ...

James

[DogScout]

If you want to do the article thing, the link in RJ's sig looks like a great place to start.

[TheRichJerksNet]

Thanks DogScout , Yep it is a perfect start ...

James

[Kay King]

I am not bashing ezinearticles (atleast that is not my intention :P) - I am just curious as to why they are so hyped up and the article directory that everyone submits to when we can just as easily submit it somewhere else with better results and fewer headaches.

Most of the threads about eza are started by people who have problems getting articles approved or by people promoting their own article directory.

I don't hype EZA as it's only one strategy and you can use it or not - but it's a useful strategy for me and it doesn't cause headaches at all.

kay

[lacraiger]

because it works

[AvidAZ]

I get good traffic off EZA. I wish it wasn't such a pain in the arse to get them approved though.

[fong47]

I think is because Google loves Ezine and with that being said. Ezine is a must for all marketeers

[Jeremy Kelsall]

When it comes to Traffic - EzineArticles is Cream of the crop - PERIOD

I don't know another article directory out there right now that can give you 100+ targeted visitors within hours of your content going live.

Are they a pain in the ass? YES

Are they gods gift to Google? NO

Are a lot of people completely clueless on how to get the most from them? ABSOLUTELY

[achivement84]

Actually EZA really can give good results in few hrs.Also it`s not that hard to get your article published their, and in the same time you will get the desirable feedback.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Personally, I don't bother with EZA. I don't have a single article published on their site, and I have no interest in having any published there.

[WinsonYeung]

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

Personally, I don't bother with EZA. I don't have a single article published on their site, and I have no interest in having any published there.

If that's the case, you are missing one of the most power marketing tool in the internet....
The problem problem with EZ is their famous quote " Your Article is Rejected!"

[troy23]

I've had all my articles approved there. I don't understand why people have problems. All you have to do is write quality content and provide value to your reader.

[M Thompson]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

When it comes to Traffic - EzineArticles is Cream of the crop - PERIOD

I don't know another article directory out there right now that can give you 100+ targeted visitors within hours of your content going live.

Are they a pain in the ass? YES

Are they gods gift to Google? NO

Are a lot of people completely clueless on how to get the most from them? ABSOLUTELY

There speaks a man who knows!!

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by WinsonYeung

If that's the case, you are missing one of the most power marketing tool in the internet....
The problem problem with EZ is their famous quote " Your Article is Rejected!"

If they was that powerful, you would not be able to easily outrank them... The most powerful tool you can use for ANY online business is your brain.

James

[M Thompson]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

If they was that powerful, you would not be able to easily outrank them... The most powerful tool you can use for ANY online business is your brain.

James

James,

the point is that you can out rank them , I often get my sites to #1 in google and my articles at #2 then maybe a few other sources in the top 10. This type of domination is easy with eza

But where EZA beats everything else hands down is instant profit. For example I build a site , submit articles to eza a few hours later the site has made money, only recently i had a site make $21 in adsense before it was 12 hours old. This week i've got a 5 day old site that has already earned double what it cost to set up.

Long term people should diversify but for the short term EZA is the best game in town.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Originally Posted by WinsonYeung

If that's the case, you are missing one of the most power marketing tool in the internet....

Then I'm happy to miss out on it. I prefer to focus on building up my own Web properties and not those owned by others, and I certainly don't want to be at their mercy for control of my marketing efforts.

When my content is on my own site, I can adjust it, tweak it, change it overhaul it, update it, do whatever I want with it as much and as often as I want. And I don't have to conform to any other site's rules about how MY content is to be presented or what can or cannot be included in it.

Besides, I don't see much value in working to drive traffic to EZA's site when I'd rather be driving traffic to mine. Visitors to articles on EZA would have to click twice to get to my offers, rather than click once to get to them. No thanks.

My experience has taught me to publish my articles on my own sites, not article directories. Directories are making money off YOUR content, they don't exist because they're a bunch of philanthropists.

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by M Thompson

James,

But where EZA beats everything else hands down is instant profit. For example I build a site , submit articles to eza a few hours later the site has made money, only recently i had a site make $21 in adsense before it was 12 hours old. This week i've got a 5 day old site that has already earned double what it cost to set up.

Long term people should diversify but for the short term EZA is the best game in town.

I disagree - I have articles posted there, because I was testing. The exact same articles I posted articlesbase & articledashboard and a few other sites. I got more "real" traffic from articledashboard in 2 week than I have from EZA the entire time all my articles have been posted.

With that said though I can get 3 times the traffic by using my own website.

My business is not short term and I have no interest in short term.

James

[BigRedNotebook]

Off the top of my head, I can think of a few thousand reasons that have surfaced in 2009, stemming from articles written in 2007 that haven't been touched or tweaked since.

Each of those reasons features a likeness of George Washington.

[fh2903]

My bank account commands me to keep using EZA! That's the only reason I need, LOL!

[Marhelper]

Originally Posted by Cryp

Hey warriors;

It just hit me, why are we so ezinearticles obsessed? I mean honestly, their good but not that spectacular. Building links to a go-article will probably give you the same result as an ezine. Furthermore I just watched a video where articlebase outranked ezinearticles.

They don't allow affiliate links, they reject articles more often than a blonde supermodel rejects drunk guys at a bar. Are they REALLY that big a deal?!

Because it is profitable and well ... isn't that enough?

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

I disagree - I have articles posted there, because I was testing. The exact same articles I posted articlesbase & articledashboard and a few other sites. I got more "real" traffic from articledashboard in 2 week than I have from EZA the entire time all my articles have been posted.

With that said though I can get 3 times the traffic by using my own website.

My business is not short term and I have no interest in short term.

James

James, I do a lot of keyword research - I mean ALOT and I must be looking int he wrong niches because I personally don't see any other directories holding top spots like EZA does...

Sure, there are ways to "force" them to rank...but, they don't do it naturally like EZA does.

So, you must be testing on some real underground type of stuff

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

I disagree - I have articles posted there, because I was testing. The exact same articles I posted articlesbase & articledashboard and a few other sites. I got more "real" traffic from articledashboard in 2 week than I have from EZA the entire time all my articles have been posted.

EZA doesn't rule the roost like it once did. For example, I just now did a single test, a Google search on a competitive keyword combination:

natural cure for acne

without quotes. Guess which directory holds down the #1 spot on Google for that result? It ain't EZA. In fact, you won't find a result from EZA until the middle of page two.

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

With that said though I can get 3 times the traffic by using my own website.

That's really the bottom line.

[TheRichJerksNet]

Jeremy,
Remember there are billions of keywords and there are a few sites that can kick EZA all the way off page 1 in 10 minutes or less.. This is what testing is all about and spending the time properly in ways that others do not.

Its funny though because many of the articles I see on EZA and check their ranks, they are nowhere near top position. Not saying none are because I know some are but just a matter of time before many start dropping like flies.

James

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

EZA doesn't rule the roost like it once did. For example, I just now did a single test, a Google search on a competitive keyword combination:

natural cure for acne

without quotes. Guess which directory holds down the #1 spot on Google for that result? It ain't EZA. In fact, you won't find a result from EZA until the middle of page two.



That's really the bottom line.

Hi Steven,
Yeah as I just posted to Jeremy .. Many articles I see are not even ranked... People talk about all these top positions with EZA but when you go look at their articles and check the keywords they are targeting EZA is noplace to be found...

Personally I do not waste my time submitting to them, I only used it as a test and if Chris is reading this and he wants to ban my account like the rest - be my guest no loss...

I have 17 articles posted and none of them do any kind of traffic like other methods and my own website...

James

[David Wolfman]

GOOL loves EZA 'cause it's human edited, same as dmoz.org and other services.

As for one of the best art. directories and oldest, EZA's PR6 is not that great and with increasing competition they can loose profits from adsense etc. They need to fight for prestige now, and sharp editorial guidelines are a result of this.

They also face tons of spammy and duplicate content. Even though the submission process is partialy automated it takes twice as long for article to be accepted as a year ago.

[SurviveUnemployment]

I bother with them for the links. That's about it.

[Phil Leotardo]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Hi Steven,
Yeah as I just posted to Jeremy .. Many articles I see are not even ranked... People talk about all these top positions with EZA but when you go look at their articles and check the keywords they are targeting EZA is noplace to be found...

Personally I do not waste my time submitting to them, I only used it as a test and if Chris is reading this and he wants to ban my account like the rest - be my guest no loss...

I have 17 articles posted and none of them do any kind of traffic like other methods and my own website...

James

Submitting to EZA is not a waste of time for me. After submitting a few articles to EZA, I think a monkey with above average intelligence could figure that out. I made my first money through that directory and still continue to do so today. It gets instant traffic and sales for the product being promoted.

If you don't like EZA, than that's your deal. But for you to go around saying that it's a waste of time does a disservice to people just getting started. Just because it doesn't work for you for whatever reason doesn't mean it doesn't work for others. The site gets 14 million visitors a day. I'll go with my chances on that.

If your webste does better than EZA, I think that's great and say good for you. And I agree that a long term business model has your site pulling in the majority of the traffic. But when someone is brand new to this business, that is much easier said than done. So, if someone can get instant traffic and sales from EZA, that may give them enough hope to carry on until they can figure out a better method.

But, even then, why would someone ever want to give up the benefits that EZA provides?

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Phil Leotardo

If you don't like EZA, than that's your deal. But for you to go around saying that it's a waste of time does a disservice to people just getting started. Just because it doesn't work for you for whatever reason doesn't mean it doesn't work for others. The site gets 14 million visitors a day. I'll go with my chances on that.

They provide no benefits, I rather build my own websites authority..

I did not go around and say it was a waste of time .. I said

Personally I do not waste my time submitting to them

James

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Originally Posted by Phil Leotardo

The site gets 14 million visitors a day. I'll go with my chances on that.

What? That site doesn't even get 14 million unique visitors A MONTH, much less 14 million visitors PER DAY.

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

What? That site doesn't even get 14 million unique visitors A MONTH, much less 14 million visitors PER DAY.

Your right there and well over 50% of their traffic is marketers, competition, people doing "research" (as I seen many post on here)...

James

[Ron Razor]

I have pretty much decided to stop posting to EzineArticles, its just too much of a pain dealing with them. GoArticles is my #1 posting site now.

[Phil Leotardo]

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

What? That site doesn't even get 14 million unique visitors A MONTH, much less 14 million visitors PER DAY.

Oops. Maybe it is 14 million a month. I was on a site earlier this month that said a figure something close to that. I can't find it now. At any rate, their Alexa rank is 147 and they bring a ton of traffic to my site anytime an article is published and that's all I need to know.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Your right there and well over 50% of their traffic is marketers, competition, people doing "research" (as I seen many post on here)...

Well, we all know that a lot of visits to EZA surely come from IMer's and not from visitors who are actually looking for information, but I certainly can't state what percentage that might be. If I had to guess, I'd say marketers doing research account for much less than the percentage you assign, but again, that's just a guess.

[DAS_Matt]

Because it's a good source of traffic. If you want to make money you need to get traffic and they are a good source of traffic. Really as simple as that.

[Richard Odell]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Your right there and well over 50% of their traffic is marketers, competition, people doing "research" (as I seen many post on here)...

James

You can also say that about most keyword tools.

This game honestly is a lot of smoke and mirrors, unless you test to see what really works?

-Rich

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Originally Posted by Phil Leotardo

Oops. Maybe it is 14 million a month. I was on a site earlier this month that said a figure something close to that. I can't find it now. At any rate, their Alexa rank is 147 and they bring a ton of traffic to my site anytime an article is published and that's all I need to know.

I certainly won't discourage you from doing something that is successful. If it's working for you, then right on -- keep it rolling, without a doubt.

Personally, most of my students who attempt article marketing end up deciding that their time is better spent working on their own web properties rather than building up someone else's only to lose traffic to Adsense clicks and to have to count on someone finding their article in a search, clicking there, then having to click again to get to their sites. They feel the click erosion is too costly.

From my POV, for me and my students, article marketing has a place in their online marketing efforts, but certainly way down the list of priority with building up their own sites directly taking the bulk of their attention and time.

[Marhelper]

Originally Posted by Ron Razor

I have pretty much decided to stop posting to EzineArticles, its just too much of a pain dealing with them. GoArticles is my #1 posting site now.

Over time, GA will not rank as well as EZA.

[Phil Leotardo]

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

I certainly won't discourage you from doing something that is successful. If it's working for you, then right on -- keep it rolling, without a doubt.

Personally, most of my students who attempt article marketing end up deciding that their time is better spent working on their own web properties rather than building up someone else's only to lose traffic to Adsense clicks and to have to count on someone finding their article in a search, clicking there, then having to click again to get to their sites. They feel the click erosion is too costly.

From my POV, for me and my students, article marketing has a place in their online marketing efforts, but certainly way down the list of priority with building up their own sites directly taking the bulk of their attention and time.

Those are good points and I appreciate the input. All I was trying to say is I can't find a better source of short term traffic for sales while I'm trying to build a long term platform.

EZA does get about 11.5 million unique visitors a month. Compare that to Go Articles. That site only gets a little over 400,000 unique visitors per month.

Site Profile for ezinearticles.com (rank #79) | Compete
Site Profile for goarticles.com (rank #4,283) | Compete

So, if I can consistently make even $50 in one niche by submitting articles, I don't know why I wouldn't want to keep that as at least one aspect of a business I am trying to build.

But, I will say that the best success I have had with EZA is by using their Premium Membership. I paid $200 for 3 months and it paid for itself by the third day. Having control over what time the article is submitted is crucial for getting the most out of that site.

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Phil Leotardo

EZA does get about 11.5 million unique visitors a month. Compare that to Go Articles. That site only gets a little over 400,000 unique visitors per month.

Site Profile for ezinearticles.com (rank #79) | Compete
Site Profile for goarticles.com (rank #4,283) | Compete

Those stats are wrong ... lol Why do people continue to try to use stats websites that can not in any way shape or form determine a sites traffic stats without having actual access to the server itself is way beyond me...

There is no stats program that can dertermine a sites true stats and many of them are so off that it is sick ...lol Only thing that can tell the actual stats is the server log itself and those programs/sites do not have access to that ..

Not saying they do not have traffic but if you have 200,000 members then it is obvious that you stats are going to show high. From what you have there that equals out to close to 1,000 Unique Visitors Per Minute

I find that really hard to believe

James

[Phil Leotardo]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Those stats are wrong ... lol Why do people continue to try to use stats websites that can not in any way shape or form determine a sites traffic stats without having actual access to the server itself is way beyond me...

There is no stats program that can dertermine a sites true stats and many of them are so off that it is sick ...lol Only thing that can tell the actual stats is the server log itself and those programs/sites do not have access to that ..

Not saying they do not have traffic but if you have 200,000 members then it is obvious that you stats are going to show high. From what you have there that equals out to close to 1,000 Unique Visitors Per Minute

I find that really hard to believe

James

Okay, I don't what to say about all that because I can't prove anything one way or the other. At the very least, it's a reference point. Will you grant me that?

[TheRichJerksNet]

Of course Phil but I would not use that to determine ANY sites traffic, value, or worth ...

James

[Phil Leotardo]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Of course Phil but I would not use that to determine ANY sites traffic, value, or worth ...

James

Thanks, James. I enjoyed hearing your viewpoints! If you're getting your sites to rank above EZA articles, you're doing something right and I'd be foolish not to consider what you write...especially because you write with such conviction.

[newBum76]

Originally Posted by Cryp

Hey warriors;

It just hit me, why are we so ezinearticles obsessed? I mean honestly, their good but not that spectacular. Building links to a go-article will probably give you the same result as an ezine. Furthermore I just watched a video where articlebase outranked ezinearticles.

They don't allow affiliate links, they reject articles more often than a blonde supermodel rejects drunk guys at a bar. Are they REALLY that big a deal?!

All I know is that when I submit a handful of articles to ezinearticles, the immediate traffic I get from the ezinearticles site usually gets me a sale or 2.

I'm horrible with keyword research and haven't really managed to rank for anything good, all the good keywords I find in my niches seem to be too heavily competed for.

Consequently, all of my sales come from ezine articles, not google traffic.

So that's why I'm personally obsessed with ezine articles......it simply gets me traffic where I otherwise would get none.

If you know of another article directory that gets traffic the way they do, please tell me about it, I'm all ears!

-Jon

[acedalright]

BE AWARE

Article base is pushing publicity lately, a lot of it is through question like these.

In the spirit of FULL Disclosure I wonder if the Article Base schills are so forthcoming with the nofollow nature of Article Base' author resources.


YES

You heard me right!


Article Base articles are nofollow attributed. Whoever heard of a nofollow article directory? So if you want the traffic that article base supposedly gives you then by all means submit hours of your best content.

But if you want trafficPLUS valuable dofollow links then try:

Buzzle
Ezinearticles
Goarticles
Article Dashboard
Qondio

[redrossero]

I never got any traffic from goarticles. I get more from articlesnatch and articlealley.