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[TimCastleman]

Guys and gals -

Just got off the phone with Elsom Eldridge Jr. (obvious expert author) about offline marketing for an upcoming teleseminar series.

One thing I stressed what charging what you are worth from the beginning. One cheap gig only gets you another cheap gig. Stop working for pennies and start charging dollars.

If you don't start at the beginning it is hard to change course along the way.

Tim

[Handsome J]

Originally Posted by TimCastleman

Guys and gals -

Just got off the phone with Elsom Eldridge Jr. (obvious expert author) about offline marketing for an upcoming teleseminar series.

One thing I stressed what charging what you are worth from the beginning. One cheap gig only gets you another cheap gig. Stop working for pennies and start charging dollars.

If you don't start at the beginning it is hard to change course along the way.

Tim

Well said. Better to start out right. If the ROI is there for your client, everybody wins. Warriors, don't sell yourself short.

[drwhogoesthere]

Have you ever wondered why service station dont have web sites? They dont need them. Not evey business needs a web page. In fact for some people doing a web page would take more effort than it is worth. The people such as lawnmowers, TV repair people, they need classified ads, not a web page.

There is helping people and using people. I dont like this idea and I cant see anybody who mows lawns really getting a good ROI.

[AmyBrown]

Originally Posted by drwhogoesthere

Have you ever wondered why service station dont have web sites? They dont need them. Not evey business needs a web page. In fact for some people doing a web page would take more effort than it is worth. The people such as lawnmowers, TV repair people, they need classified ads, not a web page.

There is helping people and using people. I dont like this idea and I cant see anybody who mows lawns really getting a good ROI.

It depends on the situation and I wouldn't necessarily say landscapers wouldn't get a good ROI. In my area we're under water restrictions and the sprinkler repair guy I worked with had so much work he had to hire another employee. The guy that trims my trees stops by every month or so to see if I need any work done. I'm trading him a website and autoresponder for services and I'm 100% sure he's getting the better deal. A website isn't always the answer but it's often a good start.

[Handsome J]

Originally Posted by drwhogoesthere

Have you ever wondered why service station dont have web sites? They dont need them. Not evey business needs a web page. In fact for some people doing a web page would take more effort than it is worth. The people such as lawnmowers, TV repair people, they need classified ads, not a web page.

There is helping people and using people. I dont like this idea and I cant see anybody who mows lawns really getting a good ROI.

A generalized statement is not always a right one. I agree using people is bad, if a business cannot benefit from services like the ones we are discussing, I agree to pass on them. My thing is, if you bring a landscaper, service station, or a TV repair guy more paying clients through a website you provided him and he pulls a profit off those people that exceeds his cost of doing business with you, then he is getting a good deal. Even if its only a few hundred a year. Like the old adage "a few hundred of something is better than zero of nothing".

I only chimed in because you mentioned TV Repair guy. I happened to do a search on just that as I have a Rear Projection Mitsubishi HDTV that lost its focus on its screen when I moved recently. Apparently the red green and blue projector lenses shifted, hence my need for just that guy you had said would not benefit from online exposure. I thought that was funny.

[TimCastleman]

Warriorsellingebooks -

Is this really in your sig line - My Wife is Bleeding Because of this Device

I clicked on the link. Wow, nice enhancement device and a great way to sell it by telling people they can tear up their wives insides.

WOW.

[David McAnulty]

Originally Posted by TimCastleman

Warriorsellingebooks -

Is this really in your sig line - My Wife is Bleeding Because of this Device

I clicked on the link. Wow, nice enhancement device and a great way to sell it by telling people they can tear up their wives insides.

WOW.

I think we can both agree on that one. I literally started laughing out loud.

That is absolutely outrageous! We are all discussing value in this this thread and that is PRICELESS!

[FaJeeb]

I've done this before while I was in high school for local professional wrestlers and all I was using was Dreamweaver. I didn't make much money, but I also didn't apply myself nor have much confidence in myself. Another good way to do this is to contact bands on myspace or through other social networks.

Be prepared to explain everything you can do for them and how valuable your service is.


I think I'm going to start this back up again.

[AndrewCavanagh]

Originally Posted by Handsome J

if you bring a landscaper, service station, or a TV repair guy more paying clients through a website you provided him and he pulls a profit off those people that exceeds his cost of doing business with you, then he is getting a good deal.

Exactly right.

The most important thing is being genuinely committed to making sure when you work with a client you bring him in more profits than he pays you.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

[dfaitel]

I have worked for the yellow pages and yes the paper directories are dying along with other print media.
If you like building sites, go for it. Your idea is viable, yet you need to charge more. We all know as networkers the value of our business is our list. An auto responder is a must have for ANY business be it a repair shop or attorney.

[joshril]

Originally Posted by TimCastleman

I clicked on the link.

I guess his headline worked...

[-Jericho-]

Great tip. If you use programs to do off site SEO like SENuke or anything else you could also offer services to get them on the first page of google. Or you could just check sites that aren't on the first page and offer to get them on the front page if it looks easy for $500. Then charge them a monthly fee for keeping them there.

[TimCastleman]

Originally Posted by joshril

I guess his headline worked...

Actually it didn't. I clicked on it because I thought "who would be stupid enough to put this on the warrior forum and actually be proud to say he hurt his wife." I got my answer, I clicked off, and blocked the user.

[JohnMcCabe]

Originally Posted by drwhogoesthere

Have you ever wondered why service station dont have web sites? They dont need them. Not evey business needs a web page. In fact for some people doing a web page would take more effort than it is worth. The people such as lawnmowers, TV repair people, they need classified ads, not a web page.

There is helping people and using people. I dont like this idea and I cant see anybody who mows lawns really getting a good ROI.

Looks like another serious case of tunnel vision here.

You seem to be assuming that the sole reason to have a web page, much less a complete site, is to generate cash customers via search results.

There are more terms in the equation...

Start by adding the url in those classified ads you mentioned. Use the ad to generate clicks to a web page, where an offer can be expanded at much lower cost. If I can go online and see that my potential lawn guy has lived in the area for years and is confident enough to present photos (better yet, video) of his work, I'm more confident in calling him.

Having basic information available on a web page can also cut down hassles for the lawn guy. I've watched various professionals have to spend time between jobs returning phone calls - or even starting and stopping to answer their cell.

A web site can also be a valuable tool for making a selection. If the business in the classified ad is a one-man band with a riding mower and a string trimmer, and I need someone who can also trim the trees, tend the flower beds, remulch when needed, etc., I can tell from the web site. I can keep looking, and he doesn't have to spend valuable time explaining to me what he can't do.

If the client and provider are a little more ambitious, they can even add a service request form to help with scheduling.

All of the above could be valuable even if Google shut down tomorrow.