Let Others Complain. Here's How I got 41,000 Views On Just One Article At EZA. Video Inside.

[Morgan Richman]

This is my complete strategy to 41,000 Views At EZA. Enjoy!

YouTube - Warrior Ezine Article Video - 41,000...

MorganRichman

ps. I just noticed it's hard to see anything on it here, but if you click on the video, you'll be taken to YouTube and you'll be able to Full Screen it. Then it should be better.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

lol...

If you are paying $30-$50 for a certain number of visitors...aren't you still paying for traffic?

If you want to do it legitimately - Boost views that is, why not just use link bait from Hot Trends etc?

Kind of goofy to try to point out a "white hat" way to do something that isn't "white hat", right?

More importantly...why would you out your article?

I smell an email from EZA coming...

[markfoo76]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

lol...

If you are paying $30-$50 for a certain number of visitors...aren't you still paying for traffic?

If you want to do it legitimately - Boost views that is, why not just use link bait from Hot Trends etc?

Kind of goofy to try to point out a "white hat" way to do something that isn't "white hat", right?

More importantly...why would you out your article?

I smell an email from EZA coming...

Yeah, I agree with Jeremy that this is kind of goofy.

Cheers~

Mark

[Morgan Richman]

Hey Jeremy,

I didn't mean to say that the traffic is free. What I am trying to say is that you do it once and then your article sits there, so even if you paid 50 but are getting 5 sign ups a day, it's still worth it, isn't it?

as per the white hat, black hat stuff. I really don't think there is anything wrong in paying someone to drive legit traffic to your article.

As I mentioned, you're paying for legit traffic. What I was trying to say is that you can't really verify if it's legit or not, just because it's impossible (or at least I don't know how to do it), but even if it's not legit, it does not really matter to me as the article author.

I hope this makes more sense now
MorganRichman

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

lol...

If you are paying $30-$50 for a certain number of visitors...aren't you still paying for traffic?

If you want to do it legitimately - Boost views that is, why not just use link bait from Hot Trends etc?

Kind of goofy to try to point out a "white hat" way to do something that isn't "white hat", right?

More importantly...why would you out your article?

I smell an email from EZA coming...

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Morgan, I'm with you dude

EZA pushes money into my various accounts every single day and trust me when I tell you - I know all the tricks.

I guess what I was trying to say is - You posted an example of an article that is in the most viewed section. The way you got it there, more than likely violates the TOS for EZA as you are paying for traffic/visitors...

So, I wouldn't be surprised if your article disappeared along with some others if you are using your forum name in EZA as well.

Originally Posted by Morgan Richman

Hey Jeremy,

I didn't mean to say that the traffic is free. What I am trying to say is that you do it once and then your article sits there, so even if you paid 50 but are getting 5 sign ups a day, it's still worth it, isn't it?

as per the white hat, black hat stuff. I really don't think there is anything wrong in paying someone to drive legit traffic to your article.

As I mentioned, you're paying for legit traffic. What I was trying to say is that you can't really verify if it's legit or not, just because it's impossible (or at least I don't know how to do it), but even if it's not legit, it does not really matter to me as the article author.

I hope this makes more sense now
MorganRichman

[TheRichJerksNet]

Why would you just not build the traffic to your own site, come on man.. you going to pay for traffic to build up someone elses site ??????

Not a smart marketing move....

James

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Why would you just not build the traffic to your own site, come on man.. you going to pay for traffic to build up someone elses site ??????

Not a smart marketing move....

James

James, you have some knowledge, I'll give you that...

but, your views and opinions are very narrow.

Why build traffic to someone elses site?

Because it can generate $100, $200, $300 a day without touching it after the fact...good enough reason?

The best part? It takes a couple minutes to implement...

build your own site

Build your own site

build your own site

Have the guys that do nothing but preach this ever considered owning more than one spot on the front page of Google or other search engines?

have the guys that do nothing but preach this ever considered having multiple streams of income for the same niche?

Just sayin..

[Morgan Richman]

Oh... Now I see what you meant

Yeah, good point, but I really don't think there is anything wrong with having a "traffic generation manager". What's your take on that?

If EZA does not like it, I really kind of don't care. I'll just get another one up there Fun life.

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Morgan, I'm with you dude

EZA pushes money into my various accounts every single day and trust me when I tell you - I know all the tricks.

I guess what I was trying to say is - You posted an example of an article that is in the most viewed section. The way you got it there, more than likely violates the TOS for EZA as you are paying for traffic/visitors...

So, I wouldn't be surprised if your article disappeared along with some others if you are using your forum name in EZA as well.

[MarkAndrews IMCopywriting]

Originally Posted by Morgan Richman

ps. I just noticed it's hard to see anything on it here, but if you click on the video, you'll be taken to YouTube and you'll be able to Full Screen it. Then it should be better.

Stick this on the end of any Youtube URL
and it will automatically allow you to watch
any video in high quality, with much sharper
detail...

&fmt=18

[Morgan Richman]

Jeremy,

I think James has got a point, althoug I agree with you as well. Although James has a site that can actually outrank EZA easily (I think he mentioned it somewhere on this forum) having more than one stream of income is a great idea.

I think as it brings you money and builds your assets, it does not matter which site you build althoug you should keep working on your site. That's true.

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

James, you have some knowledge, I'll give you that...

but, your views and opinions are very narrow.

Why build traffic to someone elses site?

Because it can generate $100, $200, $300 a day without touching it after the fact...good enough reason?

build your own site

Build your own site

build your own site

Have the guys that do nothing but preach this ever considered owning more than one spot on the front page of Google or other search engines?

have the guys that do nothing but preach this ever considered having multiple streams of income for the same niche?

Just sayin..

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

James, you have some knowledge, I'll give you that...

but, your views and opinions are very narrow.

Why build traffic to someone elses site?

Because it can generate $100, $200, $300 a day without touching it after the fact...good enough reason?

The best part? It takes a couple minutes to implement...

build your own site

Build your own site

build your own site

Have the guys that do nothing but preach this ever considered owning more than one spot on the front page of Google or other search engines?

have the guys that do nothing but preach this ever considered having multiple streams of income for the same niche?

Just sayin..

Jeremy,
I have about 20 streams of income and all from MY OWN sites. I have multiple top listings in google and again all from MY OWN sites. Why build up another site when you can do the exact same thing on your own ..

Building up someone esles site and especially paying for traffic to do so is not a smart marketing move. You could have been building your own site up and not have to follow anyone elses rules or tos. You can edit the content anytime you wish and if you even choose to use direct affiliate links you can.

My thinking is not narrow, I prefer to work smart and working smart means building up my own website and not some glorified ad sense farm. To even go to the point to pay for traffic to a ad sense farm... OMG!!

James

[Steven Wagenheim]

DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!!

If you value your integrity as well as your EZA account...

DO NOT DO THIS!!!

OMG...What a load of horse crap.

[Morgan Richman]

Steven,

I really like your strong stand on this. I always apprecite it. Thanks for the advice, but "load of horse crap"? Come on... You know you want to do it too

MorganRichman
ps. I love your youtube channel. Awesome work!

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!!

If you value your integrity as well as your EZA account...

DO NOT DO THIS!!!

OMG...What a load of horse crap.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Jeremy,
I have about 20 streams of income and all from MY OWN sites. I have multiple top listings in google and again all from MY OWN sites. Why build up another site when you can do the exact same thing on your own ..

Building up someone esles site and especially paying for traffic to do so is not a smart marketing move. You could have been building your own site up and not have to follow anyone elses rules or tos. You can edit the content anytime you wish and if you even choose to use direct affiliate links you can.

My thinking is not narrow, I prefer to work smart and working smart means building up my own website and not some glorified ad sense farm. To even go to the point to pay for traffic to a ad sense farm... OMG!!

James

1. I can edit my content on EZA
2. I can use redirects to use affiliate links
3. What isn't a smart marketing move to you, puts a crap load of money in my pocket.

I'm all for the "long term" and we have several projects that show that - But, every once in a while my wallet wants to know "what have you done for me lately" so, I will gladly take the money that EZA siphons off to me through CPA networks, clickbank, and paypal.

I get what you are saying...or maybe I don't?

Sometimes it sounds like you are saying article directories are a waste of time...

other times you say - Look at my article directory...

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Morgan Richman

Jeremy,

I think James has got a point, althoug I agree with you as well. Although James has a site that can actually outrank EZA easily (I think he mentioned it somewhere on this forum) having more than one stream of income is a great idea.

I think as it brings you money and builds your assets, it does not matter which site you build althoug you should keep working on your site. That's true.

MorganRichman

Morgan,
Has nothing to do with rankings.. My question was about "PAYING FOR TRAFFIC" to someone elses website.

If you want to build links to an EZA article then I see no problem with it. I do it for customers all the time, but to actually pay for traffic

If I was going to pay for traffic it would be to my own site.

That is all I am saying ....

James

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

1. I can edit my content on EZA
2. I can use redirects to use affiliate links
3. What isn't a smart marketing move to you, puts a crap load of money in my pocket.

I'm all for the "long term" and we have several projects that show that - But, every once in a while my wallet wants to know "what have you done for me lately" so, I will gladly take the money that EZA siphons off to me through CPA networks, clickbank, and paypal.

I get what you are saying...or maybe I don't?

Sometimes it sounds like you are saying article directories are a waste of time...

other times you say - Look at my article directory...

You did not understand my post ... Read the above ...

James

[Morgan Richman]

Right. I got your point. (I am slow today... but the problem is that you can't verify if the traffic is good... If it's not, it does your site no good, whereas it does help your eza article a bit.

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Morgan,
Has nothing to do with rankings.. My question was about "PAYING FOR TRAFFIC" to someone elses website.

If you want to build links to an EZA article then I see no problem with it. I do it for customers all the time, but to actually pay for traffic

If I was going to pay for traffic it would be to my own site.

That is all I am saying ....

James

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Morgan Richman

Come on... You know you want to do it too

Want to do it????

I wouldn't be caught DEAD doing this.

Look, I have nothing against you personally but this is just BAD advice
and a written invitation to have people's accounts banned.

Besides, I don't know when you submitted that article, but Chris is cracking
down on stuff like this. Articles now have to be a minimum of 400 words
so in most likelihood, this article today won't even be accepted.

I suggest you read Chris Knight's blog and find out what's going on.

Not only are free accounts being terminated but Premium subscribers
shelling out $97 a month are being let go.

I am dead serious here. This tactic will lead to nothing but trouble.

[Kay King]

If EZA does not like it, I really kind of don't care. I'll just get another one up there

But that assumes that EZA would only remove the article. They might remove you which would mean no more articles for those sites on EZA.

[Razer Rage]

So let me get this straight. You wouldn't be caught dead doing this (whatever "this" is), and at the same time you're "dead" serious.

Am I missing something here? Are you saying you WOULD do this while you're alive?

Lol, couldn't resist.

Frankly, I don't see the point of driving extra traffic to your EZA articles, especially paid traffic, when you can send it straight to your landing page.

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Want to do it????

I wouldn't be caught DEAD doing this.

Look, I have nothing against you personally but this is just BAD advice
and a written invitation to have people's accounts banned.

Besides, I don't know when you submitted that article, but Chris is cracking
down on stuff like this. Articles now have to be a minimum of 400 words
so in most likelihood, this article today won't even be accepted.

I suggest you read Chris Knight's blog and find out what's going on.

Not only are free accounts being terminated but Premium subscribers
shelling out $97 a month are being let go.

I am dead serious here. This tactic will lead to nothing but trouble.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

So let me get this straight. You wouldn't be caught dead doing this (whatever "this" is), and at the same time you're "dead" serious.

Am I missing something here? Are you saying you WOULD do this while you're alive?

Lol, couldn't resist.

Frankly, I don't see the point of driving extra traffic to your EZA articles, especially paid traffic, when you can send it straight to your landing page.

In my opinion, this whole thread should be dead...as in killed.

This is giving newbie article marketers a very, very, very bad idea that
is going to leave them bitterly disappointed when they find that their
articles are either not accepted OR if they are, eventually get taken down
along with their whole account and then all that work is for nothing.

As bad an idea as I have ever seen in almost 7 years of marketing online.

And that is saying something.

[Zach Booker]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Has nothing to do with rankings.. My question was about "PAYING FOR TRAFFIC" to someone elses website.

If you want to build links to an EZA article then I see no problem with it. I do it for customers all the time, but to actually pay for traffic

If I was going to pay for traffic it would be to my own site.

That is all I am saying ....

James

Was using Adwords, back in the day, to direct link to a sales page also a terrible move? That's like a double wammy.

I see your points...

But when you look at it in terms of.

1) Outsource the article
2) Spend a few minutes putting in on EZA
3) Outsource a few backlinks to be made to it
4) Link to your site for a little link juice
5) ???
6) Profit

Total time for you? A few minutes...

And you get an article that, if done right, will get you tons of visitors to your original site along with a powerful backlink or two to your site.

I don't see it as stupid to do. I see it as leveraging an incredibly popular, and highly regarded site, for your benefit.

Not saying you should spend all your time putting thousands of articles on EZA - but you should take advantage of the resource just the same as we, as marketers, take advantage of Web 2.0 properties and do-follow blogs to boost our rankings.

Zach

[Morgan Richman]

Steven,

I was just joking with you want to do it part. I think I know you enough to know that you DON'T want to do it. I did not mean to offend you

I really honestly don't think that the strategy I outlined violates their TOS. Now, I understand that it's their site and they can do anything they want with it, but IMHO I am not violating their TOS.

Having said that, If they ban, they ban. As I said, it's their directory.

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Want to do it????

I wouldn't be caught DEAD doing this.

Look, I have nothing against you personally but this is just BAD advice
and a written invitation to have people's accounts banned.

Besides, I don't know when you submitted that article, but Chris is cracking
down on stuff like this. Articles now have to be a minimum of 400 words
so in most likelihood, this article today won't even be accepted.

I suggest you read Chris Knight's blog and find out what's going on.

Not only are free accounts being terminated but Premium subscribers
shelling out $97 a month are being let go.

I am dead serious here. This tactic will lead to nothing but trouble.

[Marhelper]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Morgan, I'm with you dude

EZA pushes money into my various accounts every single day and trust me when I tell you - I know all the tricks.

I guess what I was trying to say is - You posted an example of an article that is in the most viewed section. The way you got it there, more than likely violates the TOS for EZA as you are paying for traffic/visitors...

So, I wouldn't be surprised if your article disappeared along with some others if you are using your forum name in EZA as well.

I totally agree. This is a big no no and EZA will probably suspend you for this ... lesson learned (I hope).

[avenuegirl]

I dare you to keep that video up there. LOL

Bets anyone on how long before this EZA account gets slapped?

OMG, what kahunas.

[Morgan Richman]

that's hillarious

Morgan Richman

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

I dare you to keep that video up there. LOL

Bets anyone on how long before this EZA account gets slapped?

OMG, what kahunas.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Their BIGGEST authors are the ones that started the recent trends...

Sure, their might have been a couple of nudges from others, but if you look at patterns, etc...from people that EZA looks at as successful you will see that they started all of the recent trends long ago.

Same content
Artificial view counts
publishing info manipulation

I guess it is only bad when others get let in on the joke?

[waken]

Well ... well... this is an additional term added by Chris not too long ago following a thread that was started here ...
Cheating Authors at Ezine

You agree to not purchase or utilize PPC (PayPerClick), PPV (PayPerView) traffic, safelists, or traffic exchanges to artificially inflate your EzineArticles traffic stats. Doing so may result in your account being terminated.

So, in other words Morgan, if you were driving traffic to your articles with any of the above methods prior to May 27, '09, then it's ok. But it's violation now since May 27 2009.

[Morgan Richman]

I am not doing any of the quote things. I am paying someone to drive real traffic to my website. Not paying for the traffic itself.

I don't think Reese is sitting there copying and pasting links and stuff. He's paying people to do it. That's all I do.

Or... am I misunderstanding you?

Thanks,
Morgan Richman

Originally Posted by waken

Well ... well... this is an additional term added by Chris not too long ago following a thread that was started here ...
Cheating Authors at Ezine



So, in other words Morgan, if you were driving traffic to your articles with any of the above methods prior to May 27, '09, then it's ok. But it's violation now since May 27 2009.

[mr2monster]

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

So let me get this straight. You wouldn't be caught dead doing this (whatever "this" is), and at the same time you're "dead" serious.

Am I missing something here? Are you saying you WOULD do this while you're alive?

Lol, couldn't resist.

Frankly, I don't see the point of driving extra traffic to your EZA articles, especially paid traffic, when you can send it straight to your landing page.

Since your like the 5th person that has said this, I'll try and explain it different than him.


The "paid traffic" he's sending is essentially just clicks... they're not targeted, they're not even necessarily interested... they probably get paid .001 for every link they click and that's how they make money...

What it DOES for him, though, is raises his article view count. That, in turn, puts his article in the 'most viewed' category which leads to more REAL people viewing it and more REAL people going to his landing page via the link in the bottom.


Sending all of that traffic to his own site would do almost no good because my bet is that they're on the page for less than 1 second and not even looking at what content is on there.

Essentially he's leveraging the power of being a "most viewed" article in order to get more views from REAL people. In order to do that he has to be "most viewed"... hence, buying the crap traffic.


Hope that explains it.

[TiffanyDow]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Articles now have to be a minimum of 400 words so in most likelihood, this article today won't even be accepted.

Where is this Steven? I can't find it and I'm submitting articles less than 400 words right now and they're getting approved. Want to read the new rules if I'm missing something...

[mr2monster]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

In my opinion, this whole thread should be dead...as in killed.

This is giving newbie article marketers a very, very, very bad idea that
is going to leave them bitterly disappointed when they find that their
articles are either not accepted OR if they are, eventually get taken down
along with their whole account and then all that work is for nothing.

As bad an idea as I have ever seen in almost 7 years of marketing online.

And that is saying something.

I disagree entirely. If a newbie took the time to read this thread, he would see that it is a frowned upon method and could have bad consequences for his article account.

If it's deleted, then he just wonders what all the hooplah is about and gets sold into buying traffic from someone on digital point or any number of other places.

If this place is about learning, it should be about learning the good and the bad. What TO do and what NOT to do.

[NickArnold]

Not something i would implement myself but an interesting video nonetheless.

Obviously you could direct the traffic to your own site, but the good thing about doing it to EZA is that you then leverage more traffic from being in the most viewed listings.

Just a matter of time before you get banned from EZA, but could be alright for a short term fix.

[avenuegirl]

Originally Posted by Morgan Richman

I am not doing any of the quote things. I am paying someone to drive real traffic to my website. Not paying for the traffic itself.

ROFLMBO -

Oh, I see. It is not ok to kill someone yourself, but is quite alright to hire a hit man to do it for you.

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by TiffanyDow

Where is this Steven? I can't find it and I'm submitting articles less than 400 words right now and they're getting approved. Want to read the new rules if I'm missing something...

It's not a new rule (yet), however they have mentioned in a few recent blog posts that what they really want is 400-600+ words. This one for instance mentions it: From My Desk to Yours – 3rd Edition and this one: http://blog.ezinearticles.com/2009/1...html#more-2972

From what I've heard many people have already been contacted by Ezinearticles asking them to submit articles of 450+ words.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Their BIGGEST authors are the ones that started the recent trends...

Sure, their might have been a couple of nudges from others, but if you look at patterns, etc...from people that EZA looks at as successful you will see that they started all of the recent trends long ago.

Same content
Artificial view counts
publishing info manipulation

I guess it is only bad when others get let in on the joke?

Jeremy, are you saying that you condone this marketing tactic?

[waken]

Originally Posted by Morgan Richman

I am not doing any of the quote things. I am paying someone to drive real traffic to my website. Not paying for the traffic itself.

I don't think Reese is sitting there copying and pasting links and stuff. He's paying people to do it. That's all I do.

Or... am I misunderstanding you?

Thanks,
Morgan Richman

Well, I didn't watch your video (coz my line is a bit slow today) but got a rough idea from what others are posting and made an assumption of what you did .. sorry if I was wrong.

BTW, don't feel offended. Warriors are great people and we are just concern about your account being banned and worst.. newbie that might got their account ban following advises that are no longer valid.

Nothing personal dude..

[Morgan Richman]

Jill,

with all due respect, I think you're missing the point. I am paying for LEGITIMATE traffic. All I am saying is that I can't verify that, but I am asking and paying for legit traffic.

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

ROFLMBO -

Oh, I see. It is not ok to kill someone yourself, but is quite alright to hire a hit man to do it for you.

[Morgan Richman]

I think I got this finally... man... I am slow today (I think I got to sleep more)

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Their BIGGEST authors are the ones that started the recent trends...

Sure, their might have been a couple of nudges from others, but if you look at patterns, etc...from people that EZA looks at as successful you will see that they started all of the recent trends long ago.

Same content
Artificial view counts
publishing info manipulation

I guess it is only bad when others get let in on the joke?

[Morgan Richman]

No offence taken. Thanks though.

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by waken

Well, I didn't watch your video (coz my line is a bit slow today) but got a rough idea from what others are posting and made an assumption of what you did .. sorry if I was wrong.

BTW, don't feel offended. Warriors are great people and we are just concern about your account being banned and worst.. newbie that might got their account ban following advises that are no longer valid.

Nothing personal dude..

[SellItLikeItIs]

If a newbie took the time to read this thread, he would see that it is a frowned upon method and could have bad consequences for his article account.

If it's deleted, then he just wonders what all the hooplah is about and gets sold into buying traffic from someone on digital point or any number of other places.

If this place is about learning, it should be about learning the good and the bad. What TO do and what NOT to do.

<p>

Interesting thread. I am a noob, only been IM for a year and still have a very long way to go. I think Mr2Monster has a great point.

I am thinking maybe we could turn this thread around a bit and have everyone share some less controversial ways to get your article noticed?

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Jeremy, are you saying that you condone this marketing tactic?

Do I condone what he laid out above? No

Do I condone doing what some of the "golden boy" authors at EZA have done for years? absofrickenlutely.

[avenuegirl]

Originally Posted by waken

Well, I didn't watch your video (coz my line is a bit slow today) but got a rough idea from what others are posting and made an assumption of what you did .. sorry if I was wrong.

BTW, don't feel offended. Warriors are great people and we are just concern about your account being banned and worst.. newbie that might got their account ban following advises that are no longer valid.

Nothing personal dude..

The video does not advocate buying traffic directly and he even points out EZA's TOS showing that is not currently an acceptable thing to do.

What he does say is you can hire someone to drive traffic to your site. You hand them some money and what ever methods they use is not your concern.

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Now, one thing he should probably be concerned about is calling the page with the article on it "his site." Unless he owns EZA, that is his article but it is not his site.

I'm sure EZA would not be upset if someone was driving traffic to the main part of the article directory - the front page. And it does seem that they even have plans for an affiliate program in the future (I saw it somewhere). But what is being done here is in my opinion is a bit of a dirty tactic to get his article noticed by increasing the amount of times it has been viewed - thereby pushing it into the most viewed articles. While he is "outsourcing" things, his outsourcers are technically the ones doing the dirty work. He is just paying for "the hit."

He is walking a very fine line here. He may not even get banned, but if EZA is made aware of this they may make additional adjustments to their TOS ie: No hiring of third party services to direct traffic to your article.

Does what he is showing work? Yes (appears to be). Is it legal within EZA's TOS? Sticky. Would I do it? No. It just pushes me harder to want to write something people really want to read and create something that can cause its own natural perpetual traffic. Which by the way will start to get easier as EZA continues to remove old articles and authors that are not truly contributing their best works.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Do I condone what he laid out above? No

Do I condone doing what some of the "golden boy" authors at EZA have done for years? absofrickenlutely.

If those golden boy authors were to continue doing what they do after
EZA finishes making their policy changes, will they still have their EZA
accounts?

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

If those golden boy authors were to continue doing what they do after
EZA finishes making their policy changes, will they still have their EZA
accounts?

As long as they are not morons - Yes

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

As long as they are not morons - Yes

Okay, so then we are talking about ethical practices and in no way a
violation of EZA's TOS.

For example, I send emails to my list about articles I post. That will
certainly raise views though not in any way paying for traffic and the
traffic is in fact targeted because these are people interested in the
topic itself.

Just wanted to make sure I was on the same page as you.

Cool.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Okay, so then we are talking about ethical practices and in no way a
violation of EZA's TOS.

For example, I send emails to my list about articles I post. That will
certainly raise views though not in any way paying for traffic and the
traffic is in fact targeted because these are people interested in the
topic itself.

Just wanted to make sure I was on the same page as you.

Cool.

I guess that depends on how EZA defines "paying for" traffic...

Did you offer then something to be a subscriber? lol

I don't care what anyone says...Alot of what is going on right now and whether or not you are affected by it has more to do with your submission patterns and practices than what you are actually publishing and how you are actually promoting your content.

EZA'S TOS also states that your content should be unique...how unique? Because I see ALOT of authors with ALOT of articles that all say the same thing with nothing more than different words between the keywords.

Me discussing this subject won't turn out good because as Jack Nicholson says many people "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" - That isn't a reference to you Steve, just a general reference of what I've seen in some of the other discussions.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I guess that depends on how EZA defines "paying for" traffic...

Did you offer then something to be a subscriber? lol

I don't care what anyone says...Alot of what is going on right now and whether or not you are affected by it has more to do with your submission patterns and practices than what you are actually publishing and how you are actually promoting your content.

EZA'S TOS also states that your content should be unique...how unique? Because I see ALOT of authors with ALOT of articles that all say the same thing with nothing more than different words between the keywords.

Me discussing this subject won't turn out good because as Jack Nicholson says many people "CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" - That isn't a reference to you Steve, just a general reference of what I've seen in some of the other discussions.

I understand what you're saying Jeremy and I think you're right. It's best
we leave it at that.

As a friend, and I do consider you my friend, I just hope that you're
careful and that whatever you do continues to work for you.

Me? I like to play it very safe and so far that's worked for me so there is
no point in me trying to push the envelop.

If you know what I mean.

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[Morgan Richman]

Good point. If it an't broke, don't fix it. Good stuff.

MorganRichman

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I understand what you're saying Jeremy and I think you're right. It's best
we leave it at that.

As a friend, and I do consider you my friend, I just hope that you're
careful and that whatever you do continues to work for you.

Me? I like to play it very safe and so far that's worked for me so there is
no point in me trying to push the envelop.

If you know what I mean.