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Last year Keith Kogane posted an auto-blog system where you setup a Wordpress blog with your affiliate ads and it runs itself with an auto-posting plugin that converts RSS feeds into posts and automatically posts them regularly. Here's the original post: Check out my automated niche blog business model (it really works) I've been a marketer for many years now but never really used blogging to make money (I know I'm slow) and was thinking of doing something like this. - Anyone do this? - How successful can this system be? - How much money can each auto blog make and in what time frame? - Is it a good idea to setup hundreds of these? - If so can a lot of them be in the same niches? - Any tips? Thanks, Adam |
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well, you have just described about 99% of adult (porn) blogs. This concept has been around for years, I like to refer to it as a shotgun approach to IM. You're essentially throwing as much mud against the google wall as you can and hope that quantity will make up for quality. In the adult world these are typically called 'splogs' or spam blogs. There are webmasters that run thousands of these, typically on freehosts, each site on it's own may not bring in big $$ but it all adds up. The webmasters just sit around all day creating new sites (it's a 30 min process if your slow) and over the course of a couple of months have tens of thousands of pages indexed by google, throw enough hooks into the river and eventually fish are gonna bite. And for the rest of your questions, it all depends on the webmaster, results are not the same for everyone. |
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I have tried autoblogging, and in my experience, it is better than no new posts at all, but then all is said. What you need is unique content. Written by real humans, not just RSS feeds. |
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Yes...it works. I have a few of them. It's not a matter of just throwing one up though. Sorry, to have to burst some bubbles out there. You use them as tightly themed traffic generators. They really don't take off on thier own either. You have to put some work into them on the front end before you have a shot at making them stand on thier own. |
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I'm using a software can pull 2-3 articles, videos, google/yahoo news, rss etc and post them on a single page which gets you auto posts that appear as unique content. I've put up some auto blogs but without any unique content those ones got sandboxed quickly and have no traffic. You'll have to do more than just pull some rss and forget about it. Maybe things were different a year ago? Aaron | |
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Ehh. I run an autoblog but I kinda neglected it since I set it up.. It has THOUSANDS of articles and somehow I'm still a PR0. |
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| Yep, still do. Define "successful". I do pretty well still. I haven't been building as much as I wanted to this year, but my best performing blogs are still humming along getting traffic, making sales with only a little nudge from me here and there. Quote:
Ask anyone who knows SEO how valuable that kind of thing is. Even if all these blogs don't make a dime, if you build as many as you can that update and get spidered multiple times a week, you've basically built a traffic pushing network all by yourself. Sure, why not? ![]() Going for sub-niches and cross markets is exactly what you want to do. In the same way that you want to be failing a lot because you're trying a lot, there's a flip-side. Once you find a winner, mine that vein as deeply and broadly as you can. When it comes to the model I describe, a "success" indicates both a healthy audience who is interested in your topic as well as a productive niche that creates a lot of its own topical content. That kind of community will self compartmentalize into sub-niches all by itself. Beyond all the other stuff I've already posted here in that thread and others, not really. That's the whole deal, pretty much. Some of the details as far as which specific plugins and themes are used - that stuff changes like all software. But the functionality and methodology of finding a "high chatter" niche that can use a news aggregator and letting the community generate the content for the purpose of selling advertising and affiliate products - that remains the same and is just as legitimate now as it was last year. Quote:
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All the content in RSS feeds is unique and human generated. Especially if you pull content from lots of places and assemble it together as I've described in the other thread. Anyways, hope that clears some stuff up. I don't stop by here much lately, but it's nice to see people still checking out that old thread. As far as I can tell, it's actually the most viewed thread on the forum (since the migration anyway). Maybe I should get around to selling something one day and not squander all that attention, huh? Maybe one day.
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I have just starting doing auto blogs, mainly promoting amazon products and clickbank products that get auto posted, they are set up to self promote themselves though bookmarking, pinging and rss. They are slow, but easy to set up and you can do it with in about 30 minutes to an hour if you are slow. I am also looking into selling some of them soon and making some money that way, I look at it as more of a hobby, when I need a rest from all the usually IM stuff but still want to be productive I will create some while watching TV. We live in great times with some amazing plugins available today. |
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And I've never been penalized or shut down. I do my setups a little different than Keith but it's about the same. Tightly focused niches and remeshed to where you establish the site as a go-to place for concentrated infomation on the niche. Oh...and heavy onpage seo. And I'm not talking about the seo plugin or headspace or any of those. I use those too, but in addition it my seo. Then coomon sense off page seo...which is really just plain sem. | |
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Thanks guys for for your feedback and thank you Keith for taking your time to answer my questions. I really appreciate it. Adam Quote:
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![]() I read the old post ( this one? ). I didn't see much difference between it and what I previously posted. Your old post wasn't bad and it'll certainly get someone on the road to running an automated RSS fed blog but those exact methods have been in use for years. It wasn't groundbreaking then and with the tools available today it's outdated. Building a site based on a subject and feeding it with RSS feeds relevant to that subject isn't anything new. I use the little suckers as backlink fodder and traffic feeders myself. | |
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I have only one and it's a site I bought from someone... I probably wouldn't have set this up myself but having bought it, seen how it works and seeing the results. Nothing spectacular but it does make money! about 1 minute of work a month (just basically telling the system to create posts for the next month... I could actually just set it for for a few months or a year and it would then just be a minute a year )... so any kind of money is good for 1 minute of work, it's currently making around $50-100/ month. So seeing this, I might just be creating some more of them and thinking of ways to bring more auto traffic to them ![]() The way it's setup is really clever though so I think it needs a good setup for it to be able to bring traffic and create posts that are interesting enough for people to read. |
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Keith a quick question (sorry). Do you think this would work with subdomains? Like if I have Wordpress MU and setup different blogs on my subdomains? Thanks, Adam Quote:
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Autoblogs are a failure in most cases. Why? Poor or, as is often the case, duplicate (i.e. stolen) and no-sense content in the blogs that are created.I'm making a living with manual-autoblogs... You need good rich content and a tool to automate the process. For this reason I call them manual-autoblogs manual: you need to manually "create" your content autoblog: automate the processFrom my experience, I have created a tool to make this an easy process...coming soon ![]() |
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I am new to internet marketing, but I have set up an auto-blog. So far it has helped to get my site ranked. I also post my own thoughts and tips to help it along. As of right now I have a little more traffic, time will tell.
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I have a blog I threw to gether just last week and its already getting 50 - 100 hits per day.... Guess what? I used all duplicate content. I've been doing this for over two years now and get awesome results! |
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' Does it work?' depends on what you want to achieve I have blogs that are 100% automatic and on 1st page in google serps for medium competitive keywords, getting 1500-2500 unique visitors per month. However, setting up an autoblog correctly demands patience and some wp and rss knowledge. |
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Thank you all, I appreciate your input. Thanks, Adam |
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Set up a network on a host you don't use for your regular sites. Register in Proxy. Don't bother with affiliate offers. Then use the blogs to feed traffic. You may also want to pull your feeds into a non public blog then repull those feeds into your blogs. Lots of tricks and scams to fool the search engines. Ultimately it's a lot of work. I pull feeds into blogs but don't bother scraping or autoblogging because the search engines that matter are pretty good about weeding them out. Most people can't make autoblogging work for them... but if you have a scammers mentality and want to play that game you might be able to get something out of it. For ordinary people it's simply not worth the investment in time. |
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People tend to forget that just because a tool allows automation doesn't automatically mean you have no editorial or quality control. You can be very precise when creating "recipies" for sites that are useful to visitors (as a resource), valuable to the sites you syndicate (as publicity/traffic source), and profitable for you (based on the inevitible ad click or sale from an affiliate promo. I find a useful way to think about building good autoblogs is to think of the system as a robot reporter, and you're the magazine editor/programmer. You tell the reporter what kind of stuff you're looking for, he goes out and grabs a bunch of info and links back to where it came from. Seems pretty logical to me, but for whatever reason, people hear "automation" and "RSS" and "blog" altogether and they automatically presume spam. Quote:
Much like a real blog investor with a staff, I can focus my entrepreneurial interests on the marketing and growing of the sites without having to worry about the content. Whatever good content occurs in my niche will automatically be spotted by my "robot reporters" and posted to my sites (or queued as a draft for review/commentary). So yeah, what this guy says is what you would do if you WERE trying to approach this as a black hat traffic driver or search engine scam. But if you're referencing my stuff, I only ever recommend building a real site through automation, not ever solely for "scamming" the search engines or my content providers, or my readers. | ||||
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I tried the rss autoblog scripts and they suck. I tried the blog post autoblog scripts that pull in posts and they suck. I tried an autoblog plugin that uses plr or any text post that you write. You upload all the content to a folder, pick a category and a schedule like every 3 days and it will post them for you. I like this one and if you have 365 plr articles on your topic, you can post everyday for a year from about 10 minutes of work from installing the plugin to hitting the post button. |
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i have an autoblogging site. 500++ unique visitor in just 3 months. But it is sucks..totally.. despite a lot of traffic, no sales has been made.... can you imagine what you can do with 500++ unique visitor?? but that's what I got...to promote and get backlink I use auto social poster. I think auto social poster works best if the content is a real articles... try it...make 200-300 word per post everyday...the effect is almost the same. I plan to start make short posting to my blog this week. And plan to put adsense on it. |
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auto blogging is super cool coz it's easy. You can improve an auto blog though when you add value in the form of some unique content, some seo love etc and this can all be automated with wp
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With autoblogging you have to put some work into them on the front end before you make them stand on their own. It pulls content from a variety of sources at various intervals without the need of manually writing and providing contents to your site. Then hopefully, the quantity will make up for quality and in my experience, it is better than no new posts at all.
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I like to call it "Semi - Auto Blogging". I still use some of the traditional auto content sources (though I'm not sure I would call it stolen when the TOS allow it to be reposted elsewhere) but I add the occasional piece of unique content here and there, I also manually check the content from the "auto" sources before I schedule it to post. For me this is a better approach than just setting up a site in a few minutes and walking away and not knowing the quality or relavance of the content that is going to post after I have gone. It's still mostly automated as far as the process but the content itself is about an 80/20 mix of auto VS unique. | |
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I can't think of any other industry apart from IM where it's common for people to expect their tools to do ALL their work for them. By the way, it's worth pointing out to anyone who hasn't noticed that this thread is over a year old and opinions and practices mentioned could well have changed since it last sank to the bottom of the forum. Watch for dust | |
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I tried auto blogging once about a year ago. The problem I had was that my blog was overloading my server. Another thing that scared me was all of the different plug-ins. Don't get me wrong I really like some of the WordPress plug-ins but you never know how secure the plug-ins are and I was always worried about getting hacked. I eventually just shut the WordPress Autoblog down. |
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autoblogging not give unique content which is not good with seo so try to put unique content on your blog.
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I've also noticed that there seems to be a rise in "auto blogging" related threads (including those like this one getting revitalized for some reason). Some for, some against but either way...it's certainly one of the main topics lately. I personally like semi-auto blogging and find it rewarding. I also understand why some people don't like it. The only thing that concerns me is the obvious lack of respect for it from those that are quite obviously very against it. I know, as many do, that unique content (or should I say quality unique content) is king. I'm not disputing that at all, having said that, just because one way works doesn't mean another can't. To purposefully go out of your way to down talk or bash other approaches to IM (simply because you don't agree with it or it didn't work for you) seems childish to me and doesn't help anyone. Just my 2 cents... | |
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Autoblog really works. The evolution of blogging happened so fast that it left no time to master each version completely. To newbies in the blogging world, this change can be quite shocking. Establishing a well-read blog can be frustrating especially if one us unsure on how to deal with a newer technology. As an offspring of the advancement of blogs, automated blogs were produced. The richness of keywords in automatic posts make them SEO-friendly.The keywords and tags imbedded in your posts attract online traffic. A site that best matches searched keywords gets the top rank. Another great benefit of automated blogs is that they can be updated automatically. Automatic updates would occur at a fixed time and date even if you are nowhere near your computer. It also allows for multiple blog updates all at once. With this setting, your updates are sure to be on-time always. Automatic blog posts also help you build an extensive and reputable blog and site. The more important information that your blog contains, the more it shows you know about a certain industry, niche, product and so on.A daily dose of additional information makes your consumers eventually trust your site. Since it is now easier to generate content for your blog, daily updates become a hassle-free task. The more updated the information and the useful amounts of it will show consumers that you really do know the business that you are in and that you are someone that they can do business with and ultimately trust. |
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Autoblogging definitely works. I think the mass approach is the best way ot go if you want to make money. Do the keyword research, buy the domains, install wordpress, buy or get wprobot, input keywords into wprobot, let it fetch content for you, build backlinks and make sure your on page seo is good. Rinse and repeat many times. Keyword research for sucessful autoblogs takes some testing though, not every great keyword found in market samurai works out when actually tested by an autoblog. There is a ton of information I have found on autoblogs on different colored hat forums.
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I have few blogs and only 3 of them are fully automated with duplicate contents. The rest are mixed or strictly unique content (some mine, some outsourced). Although autoblogs make your life easier, I find blogs with unique contents have better conversions. However on a plus note, my autoblogs are earning more from adsense where else my unique content blogs have a better conversion in promoting Clickbanks & Amazons products.
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That's soooo cool! I'm a bewbie of blog and few people visit my blog. That's so break my heart!
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Sometimes auto blogging works but sometimes I guess they said it's critical... why? |
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Can work, if you're lucky and don't get 10 DMCA notices.
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My Wordpress account has been suspended, just because I used an auto-blogging service. And not once, MANY times!!! Quote:
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i use hostgator to host all my blog, i use autoblog, i have generate traffic 2K per Day and increase my income too, but if we would like to use autoblog for the first time, it need 3 month, backlink building and have original post, next, in the next 3 month we install autoblog plugin, so our blog can generate high traffic increase. |
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There has been a sharp rise in what Google classifies as "spam blogs" with there new algorithms of classifying content. The introduction of the all new Google caffeine and their mega fast indexing is allowing many sites to be ranked in the top 10 for specific keywords that would not normally be there. this Mashable article explains it in great detail, Google's Plan to Combat Search Spam this is not directed solely at auto blog,, which do still work, but it may not be a long-term plan. |
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I am using AutoBlogging in my affiliate marketing site I seen a good result but still I prefer an article written by human to ensure the uniqueness and the quality of the content.
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Cannot see anything against Google or any other search engines when autoblogging. The point is to use good quality content - why can't we automate it? I offer good quality content for visitors even if I'm away for a week or two So yes, it works and don't know why it wouldn't.... Marian |
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I use one presently, the good thing about it is that it cloaks my affiliate id on most of the articles. You only need to work more on getting traffic and adding unique contents. Sit back and see the cash roll in. |
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