Marketing for Auto Mechanics

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This is probably for offline experts.

What are a few tips that a mechanic with sagging sales can do to get customers, those that know the selling points needed in a mechanic shop?

It sort of bothers me that this guy is an honest mechanic with decent prices, yet does not get constant new customers.

I think the problem is he is too good. When he fixes your car, its fixed for a long time.

I had a wreck, a spare car that hardly needed anything year to year once he given it a major tune-up and just a few other small things.

I think he needs something on a webpage, flyer advertisement or card that separates him from other mechanics, even the big boys like aamco or midas, which I never go, they love the bait and switch, sometimes.

They can guarantee the car with a warranty because they essentially replace the whole system they are working on with 300% or more mark-up on parts.

If in when he makes a mistake or error, he fixes it with no problem and no charge.

Most claim to be ASE certified, but this guy's investigative skills into the problem of a car is extrodinary....if its ONLY a screw or vapor lock, he knows it and can find it without charging an arm and leg.

Only fixes what need to be fixed.

Believe me when I tell I searched and tried for years to keep finding a mechanic that was both good, reasonable and honest, very tough.

This other mechanic I know and tried is pretty lousy, he's just a parts replacer, that's the extent of how most mechanics investigate and solve a problem, though 68% or more of the time , it was unnecessary.

I found out the one of the secrets to why he gets so much business: he gives out loaner cars to people while their car is being fixed.

I know he is a lousy mechanic because I gave him several chances to redeem himself, he failed miserably, he is just a parts replacer, very low diagnostic skills.

The lousy mechanic(s) says "oh yeah, its this," and when he replaces the part, its still not fixed, then he says' "oh , it must be this" and it goes on like this.

In my experience, and I got a lot of experience with different mechanics, barely half a count on one hand had, has or have Diagnostic skills, which is 98% of solving the problem, and for good.

Others guess, because they don't get updated training on the new cars and systems every 6 months or year, this guy really does.

Most strictly go by what the machine says to do, not knowing how to interpret the machine with other factors.

I know, because I would go to one mechanic, he would give me his diagnosis and price, essentially wanting to replace the whole unit or part, then I would take it to the very skilled mechanic, and he would tell me its only a tension spring and would either charge me $5 or say don't worry about paying, too simple.

This good mechanic I know also has guys selling him things that supposed to improve his business, but by what he showed me, these guys are :

good at graphics,

laminating cards,

setting up websites,

setting up email systems,

setting up accounting systems,

putting his ad in a telephone book,

putting his ad in pennysaver,

setting up this type of system and that,

BUT NO MARKETING, but they tell him this is what he needs to get clients, that this is marketing.....sound familiar?

I looked at his laminated card, and besides the lamination, it looks like any other advertisement that someone would stick on your windshield wiper.....

Their marketing points..?..a coupon special and pretty picture of a car, like EVERYBODY ELSE who makes flyers.

Forget about copy, no copy at all....you've seen these local neighborhood flyers.

Unless those prices are ridiculously competitive in price, most would do what they do all advertisement and flyers, if sticks you in your eye in about 3.25 seconds, you toss it on the ground or keep scanning the ad, pages or website.

So what few tips does a mechanic in this economy need to do or look for to get help?

Hell, maybe if you got some good stuff, he may want your email or phone number, because what these clowns charge for the results he's getting is beyond insane, typical Madison Avenue school gloss but clueless.

If you don't want to give away all your secrets here, you could pm me, can't guarantee anything, but I could print them out and he could take a look at what guy sounds like someone he wants to work with.

Dude's desperate.

The 13 th Warrior
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by Tinkerbell View Post


      Sent you a pm.
      Received pm, will copy and give it him.

      Thanks.

      The 13 th Warrior
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by Paul McQuillan View Post



      Those items you mentioned is marketing.
      I'm going to have to disagree with you.

      The items mentioned are the TOOLS OF MARKETING.

      How many marketers have websites, flyers, ads, software,autoresponders, coupons, etc., and still get dismal results, if, any sales at all ?

      Marketing is using those tools effectively, with some specific proven, targeted,tested proven strategy or using ONLY tools that each give optimum , tested results....usually one major strategy/tool gives, say for example, 20% increase, test after test, so any additional tools with other much smaller percentages can be added on top of the main working one, provided they are cost effective in both time, money, and results, hence, the big roll-out.

      I will copy this and give it to him.

      Thanks.

      The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author Jagged
    Have him set up a referral rewards program where his existing customer receive a free oil change or a percentage off future repairs for referring new customers to him. Would be easy enough to set up...

    How about an "inter-trade" referral system, where he joins forces with local auto parts stores, towing services, tire shops etc.....set up some kind of bonus for having them refer customers.....also where he can earn a few bucks for referring customers to them...

    I didn't see where you said if he does have a website...a website will always help. With most people today searching online for local businesses or services like his.....he better be there....
    Set it up with well managed geo-targeted seo...

    Sorry to say...but coupons do work...especially for auto mechanics. The trick is to get people to come to him....coupons attract!! But they need to be placed where people look for them....

    Maybe something like a "progressive prefered customer discount"...more work they have...the bigger the discount....

    Just some suggstions,

    Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
      Think about this - how do people learn about the business you're trying to promote?

      For auto repair it is normally word of mouth. For that to happen he needs to tell people to refer him to other people.

      Someone already mentioned postcards. I use them and love them.

      What about a letter offering cheap oil changes and a bunch of coupons to give out to friends and family in the same letter.

      Also as much as he hates it, loaner cars work. When I was in insurance all I had to say was free loaner car and they went there.

      He has to stop living in the world he wants, and start living in the world that is.

      He can go door to door with a flyer, call old customers to do a free winter safety check, etc

      Tons he can do.

      Anyone can turn a wrench, not many people can market that wrench turning.

      Tim
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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Originally Posted by TimCastleman View Post


        He has to stop living in the world he wants, and start living in the world that is.

        He can go door to door with a flyer, call old customers to do a free winter safety check, etc

        Tons he can do.

        Anyone can turn a wrench, not many people can market that wrench turning.

        Tim
        Good stuff, I let him see this.

        Thanks.

        The 13 th Warrior
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        • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
          By the way, I am going to strongly suggest to him to at least contact one of you , for at least a consultation fee, a show of good faith for such free tips, at least.

          If he does, you don't have to give the details, just come back to this thread and say,

          " Got the client, working out details ".

          You guys will most likely, if he accepts, provide way better cost effective marketing strategies with some measurable amount of result that will blow the results of these slick, commission Madison Avenue system-type salesman he has been buying out of the water.

          To sell someone accounting software and such , whether good , bad, or outdated is one thing.

          But to persistently allude that this will make you more money by streamlining his bottom line, get more customers, get more customers to come back more often, with no guarantees, verifiable proof are other factual evidence shows how people can repackage a product to make it something that it is not, as for an example, a computer accounting system, thats all it is, NOT system for getting leads as they would craftily allude it would, and stuff like that.

          Giving an illusion of expertise in financial benefits as it relates to marketing they have no proof or experience in.

          Just trying to make that commission sell.

          Without a tested , targeted, proven marketing strategy, its just an accounting system for your computer, thats all.

          The 13 th Warrior
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by Jagged View Post



      Just some suggstions,

      Ken
      Thanks, man, will give this to him.

      The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author shaddai
    How about YOU write a 2-3 paragraph letter about how well this guy works. Keep it seriously down to earth...you want to tell a heat warming story, not pitch a product.
    Send it to the local paper editor, put it on craigslist, maybe post it on eza. Enough online stuff.

    Then print it up & put it on the community boards at the grocery store. Give copies to the tow truck drivers. Give a few to the nail salons, tanning salons, and auto parts stores, coffee shops, edge of town gas stations....anywhere you think a broken car could turn up, or that you'll find someone that won't/can't fix a broken car themselves.

    Give it to churches too...they help people that are down on their luck by helping with transportation & groceries...get some good word of mouth flowing through a few notoriously gossip ridden congregations & your buddy should be slammed in no time :-)

    Todd
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by shaddai View Post


      ...you want to tell a heat warming story, not pitch a product.


      Todd

      Nice, very nice, will give this to him.

      Thanks for the suggestions.

      The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author SantiSantana
    If he is that good and reasonable in price and honest and you still haven't figured out how to market him properly, the issue is that you are talking too much with him, which means you are seeing the business form the inside, not the outside. If he can do a repair job a lot cheaper, simply because he actually repairs rather than replace, his customers need to know that. If he can be upfront about prices like you say, his customers need to know that. If hes not capturing his current customers details he needs to start asap. All of those customers he is getting must be asked (politely of course) for the possibility of leaving a testimonial ( as in filling a feedback form or something, which he can bribe them to do with a coupon) If they are happy, he needs to put a referral system in place. no one will be a better marketter than a happy customer.

    He could also do withgettting b2b referrals; car wash places, parts resellers, tuning businesses ( assuming he doesn't do tuning) and generally every type of business that could relate to him.

    As for the rest of what you said before:

    good at graphics, ---> Not necessarily his top priority

    laminating cards, ---> That is pretty much a given today, no extra value so can look for competitive price

    setting up websites, --->can be cheaply outsourced

    setting up email systems, ---> one step at a time, is he getting dat from current customers? those are priority.

    setting up accounting systems, ---> if hes been in business for any length of time he already has one and his priority seems to get customers, not to improve the accounting

    putting his ad in a telephone book,---> he can do that himself. A different thing is to create an ad that works.

    putting his ad in pennysaver,---> see above

    setting up this type of system and that, ---> only systems he needs right now are those that will bring in more money, not management ones.

    I could tell you more ut Im now working on a few flyers to relaunch a faltering italian themed bar and need to get thinking, PM me if you need more guidance.
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by SantiSantana View Post



      As for the rest of what you said before:

      good at graphics, ---> Not necessarily his top priority

      laminating cards, ---> That is pretty much a given today, no extra value so can look for competitive price

      setting up websites, --->can be cheaply outsourced

      setting up email systems, ---> one step at a time, is he getting dat from current customers? those are priority.

      setting up accounting systems, ---> if hes been in business for any length of time he already has one and his priority seems to get customers, not to improve the accounting

      putting his ad in a telephone book,---> he can do that himself. A different thing is to create an ad that works.

      putting his ad in pennysaver,---> see above

      setting up this type of system and that, ---> only systems he needs right now are those that will bring in more money, not management ones.

      I could tell you more ut Im now working on a few flyers to relaunch a faltering italian themed bar and need to get thinking, PM me if you need more guidance.
      I mentioned all that because although he may have needed SOME of that stuff for his business, the main selling point by the "sales joes" that sold him this stuff was that it would improve his bottom line.

      A real marketer would give him samples, a test, or something, or can back up some measurable amount of results with some guarantee,..a minimum criterion and guarantee of what results he will be seeing.......these guys did not do that.

      I'll show him this.

      Thanks.

      The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author SantiSantana
    Another thing that is important is to understand that most of what's been pointed out up until now is stuff that works over a period of time. If he needs a burst of cash coming in in a very short period of time to cover for an emergency of some sort, a short term plan is needed, which will most likely revolve about using some of the items above listed to create a promotion to lauch it immediately. Short and long term strategies are usually not interchangeable;what works to get some quick cash in won't work to build a solid stable long term business and positioning yourself on your customers mind for the long term is a long drawn process. I just thought I'd put the distinction out there in case he needs both.
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by SantiSantana View Post


      Another thing that is important is to understand that most of what's been pointed out up until now is stuff that works over a period of time. If he needs a burst of cash coming in in a very short period of time to cover for an emergency of some sort, a short term plan is needed, which will most likely revolve about using some of the items above listed to create a promotion to lauch it immediately.
      Oh, yeah, understood.

      That's why I asked for someone with some experience who has an idea what to craft for Auto Mechanics, every market has its nuances and selling points.

      Time is not necessarily an issue, believe me, he bought some of this stuff years ago, with not much result, so patience is not a problem.

      What you guys offer may seem long term, but compared with the results of what he already has been sold, you guys marketing results will probably be head and shoulders of what he has been sold.

      Most of the skilled marketers did not get their degree in marketing or learn from some representative of some major Madison Avenue type firm.

      The Gary Halberts and such out-do these type advertising businesses because they are more in touch with the needs of the market because they HAVE TO BE....... they did'nt have millions to shrug off and cannot afford the luxury of failing, hence targeted , cost effective testing tools.

      So they usually BEAT Madison Avenue in both cost per dollar spent and Return on Investment with the least expenditure.

      NOW, Madison Avenue , with all their degrees and B.A's, Ph.D's and B.S's in marketing seek out the mail order gurus , internet gurus........they did'nt teach what these guys know in some ivory college.

      Ask any of 'em.

      Why would you teach a class in business college on marketing and advertising making some teachers salary, when you can get your own campaign and make millions yourself?

      Same with Radio broadcasters. The one's that make money being a talk show host or dj tell you that going to college for a Broadcasting career is a total utter complete waste of time.

      Because if the teacher could broadcast, he would be out there getting some of that Howard Stern-Rush Limbaugh type of cash, if he knew what he was talking about and was any good.

      The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author SantiSantana
    Free tip coming. Tell him to hire someone that will get paid as a percentage of results. Bad marketers run a mile when they hear that, good marketerslick their lips at the chance. They know they will get more money than on a fee and he know that even if he pays more than on a standard fee he will only be paying out of the profits made,plus the marketer is extramotivated to see him succeed. classical win-win.
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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by SantiSantana View Post


      Free tip coming.

      Tell him to hire someone that will get paid as a percentage of results.

      Bad marketers run a mile when they hear that, good marketerslick their lips at the chance.

      They know they will get more money than on a fee and he know that even if he pays more than on a standard fee he will only be paying out of the profits made,plus the marketer is extramotivated to see him succeed. classical win-win.
      A VERY , VERY GOOD tip.

      I am going to tell him to read THIS tip twice , after reading all the advice.

      A key one.

      I have copied these, will see dude in a few days, this week actually, gotta get a smog check.

      Lets see if something can happen. This'll be better stuff than those commission salesman have been selling him, he's got to be inspired reading these tips.....I am, and its not even my business.

      Mucho appreciado on the generous tips, people.

      The 13 th Warrior
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      • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
        Forgot to mention to my mechanic, who I trust , that :

        1) He should publish helpful tips email to his customer base.

        It does not have to be on any schedule, but if some product is crap, he should let his customers know about. I am always grilling him about certain automotive products that he reviews as totally unnecessary. That can save his customers money and buy products that do work to extend the quality and life of ones automobile.

        2) Since I trust him and other customers do, he could email campaign to his customer base some automotive products ( affiliate marketing ) that he could review and personally vouch for their effectiveness.

        I forgot to mention he told me of products that worked like he said, that is a valuable service he is not taking advantage of and not fully exploiting.

        The 13 th Warrior
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        • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
          Thanks Big Mike.

          I am going to let him know about that advice.

          If someone is honest and does above excellent work, that should be a premium these days, especially among the automotive industry.

          This guy has extensive experience with fixing Dealers "f" up's, other people bring him stuff the dealer over-charged and still could'nt fix , and he would fix it, he has lots of stories he is not using in his marketing.

          He also knows "when" its good to or when you "have to" go to the dealer.

          Part of his email should be "Useful tips and things to avoid when dealing with your Dealer" because these guys usually think they got you buy the short hairs because the car is under warranty and all, so you virtually have no choice.

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    • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post


      If it doesn't violate any local regulations, he should try making deals to offer a commission to tow truck drivers to drive business his way. Assuming he's not doing it already

      A few times, when I did not have Triple AAA then, I was thinking of suggesting to him to buy a tow truck to get more business.

      He does have one guy he recommends calling on rare occasions, but he has not been fully exploiting this option to its full potential.

      The so-so mechanics out there that get some amount of steady business, even some of the losers I dealt with had a few tow trucks OR did exactly as you mentioned and towed desperate people by some tow company they had a contract with who were desperate to get their car off the road and get it fixed.

      These guys target and seek "lost souls" , but I seen it works, especially in the poorer communities.

      Like the "Last Chance Gas/Mechanic" 200 miles between nowhere.....got you by the short-hairs, no matter how bad he is.

      The 13 th Warrior
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        If this guy is as good as you say he is, he has an incredible opportunity to position himself.

        Think "the car doctor" or "the car whisperer"...

        While oil changes and the like are a mechanic's bread and butter, there are other services that could generate cash flow.

        Twice in my life, I had mechanics like the one you described. Once they had my trust, they signed off on every used car I bought. During my test drive, I would swing past the shop. They would give the car a good once-over. If the the car looked good, I'd make an offer provisional on an inspection. One of those inspections saved me more money than I spent on all of the inspections together.

        Your guy could position himself as the person to see before buying a car. Quick once-over before offer, free. Detailed inspection, $99 (or whatever works in his market). Publicize the service, rather than the shop.

        If possible, offer to perform service at the customer's location. I recently had to replace the window mechanism on my car. After calling around to the usual suspects, I ran across an ad offering to come to my location and give me a free quote. The guy "just happened" to have the part he needed with him, and did the service in my driveway. 40 minutes later, he left with a check and I could close my car window again.

        Collect that type of story - he could even go so far as to use a little Flip video camera. Posting those on a website and linking to them from ads, fliers, etc. will help.

        If he can talk to a group, free seminars on things like buying cars, picking tires, detailing, etc. can draw a crowd. Even teleseminars are a possibility...

        The bottom line position he wants in this scenario is "before you sink any money into a new car or even your old one, you NEED to see this guy..." Combine that with an active referral program, and he'll be money.
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        • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post


          If this guy is as good as you say he is, he has an incredible opportunity to position himself.

          Most excellent marketing advice Mr. McCabe.

          Thats real good stuff.

          Going to copy and show him this stuff....maybe you might be the one he considers to get more information.

          Going to recommend that if one of you don't work out, he should consider others on this list, because what he has done so far in the years I've seen is failing in the promotion of business.

          After I show him you guys advice, ultimately, the ball is in his court, though I am going to strongly advice to look several times at the advice and contact one or several of you.

          Of course, it is my own self interest.....took me years to find an honest, good mechanic with very reasonable practices and prices.

          If he goes out of business, it will probably take me a lot longer to find someone of equivalent talent and integrity, if I ever do, believe me, lots of mechanics, years and experience on this end looking for one....even the most moderate , sometimes, have some issues...., this guy, no issues.

          We had one old school mechanic who knew his stuff, but after he retired, for years, we would change mechanics like changing underwear everyday, trying to find a decent mechanic, not easy.

          I'm talking about used cars, one is 10 years old , with thousands of miles and one would ready for the wrecking yard, it is 20 years old, but once he got a few low cost repairs and moderate service on them, for the last 5-7 years, I only had to see him , maybe, once a year, for tune-up, brake adjustment, smog.

          I've had at one car that one cylinder was not firing, and ran for years with his service....others tried to say I needed a new engine, he disputed them, always attempting the best, low cost solution.

          The other definitely needs a head job, or engine replacement, yet, runs like a champ for years with his service.....if it was not for the smoking getting worse just recently because of the gasket/head leaks, it would still pass smog and be running for years more. This car, with major work needed to be done but not worth it, ran for years with barely one visit to him a year, for tune-up, smog, brake service and even with the brake service after a year of not seeing him, only recommended adjustment, nothing else.

          Does such good work, in my experience, that you hardly ever have to see him again, so good, he hurts his own business by being so thorough, wow.

          Compared to what I have had experience with, we call them " jack-leg" mechanics, parts replacement is their version of "DIAGNOSTICS" or Troubleshooting Analysis.....they just keep replacing parts until they get to the problem, and usually they never do.

          Even the few who are honest and have some integrity, was STILL hard pressed to find some one with Diagnostic skills this good, no guesswork, KNOWS exactly how and where to find the problem, like a CSI investigator on t.v...., pretty close to pinpoint accuracy.

          An example of this is several times, he got it down to the part that was causing the trouble, but did not need to replace it.....just tightened something on the part, or replaced something with a cheap rebuilding kit, changing a wire, stuff like that.

          The average mechanic would just replace the part, although it is not critical and probably would say you need other things you did'nt, "just to be on the safe side", yeah, sure, you are the expert.

          Hope my mechanic can see the value of this stuff and start some action, because what he showed me what he has been sold on is quite homogenized and pathetic with my limited marketing knowledge and should be considered robbery and larceny by the price tag they charged him.

          These guys are even worse and less than a typical brick 'n mortar "advertising agency", fact is, not even on that level, if thats even considered the benchmark of good marketing , on average.

          Thanks.

          The 13 th Warrior
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  • Profile picture of the author thattaway
    "How about YOU write a 2-3 paragraph letter about how well this guy works. Keep it seriously down to earth...you want to tell a heat warming story, not pitch a product.
    Send it to the local paper editor, put it on craigslist, maybe post it on eza. Enough online stuff..."


    This reminds me of a story that Bill Glaser tells in "Outrageous Advertising", where he discovered an Italian restaurant where the food was great. He created a flyer to spread the news, because he liked the restaurant and he liked the owner. He plastered the flyer all over and ended up with all kind of unintended rewards for his good karma. Oh, and the restaurant owner's business went through the roof.



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