True List Builders Use Aweber/Article Marketers use EZA

[Troy_Phillips]

Saying that Aweber is the weapon of choice for a true list builder is like saying that EZA is the only directory an article marketer should consider .

This is not meant to bash Aweber or EZA. They both are respectable companies and a valuable resource .

They are not the only game in town by a long shot .

Both companies have established rules . This is their company and they can play their game their way .

I have just noticed that the majority of the answers to list building questions dealing with list building start with get Aweber .

Aweber is just an example of a tool to aid in list building . The true answer should say... get an autoresponder . An autoresponder that is in line with your specific needs ... for your specific business.

You may need to import an existing list . While this is possible with aweber , it usually proves laborious at best . Most will find it an unproductive venture .

You could be planning on paying for your monthly subscription by being an affiliate for the autoresponder it's self.

Unless you are signing true new marketers to your list , Awebers extended cookies will bite you on the butt.

There are a lot of autoresponders out there . Find the one that fits your specific needs instead of listening to people that have never used anything besides Aweber . If you will do your own ground work... you may find an ar that suits you to a tee. It could even be Aweber .

Quick Tip: No matter what ar you use . Back up your subscriber information often and store it in a manner that insures you can retrieve it in case of a server crash or malicious attack.

The same can be said about article marketing .

EZA , once again, is a tool that can be used to enhance your article marketing . It is not article marketing .

EZA has been known to see things one way today and another tomorrow .

Your articles are in direct competition with links surrounding your articles .

Many will say that EZA page rank makes it a must for Google traffic . ( I could get into Google as the only traffic source but won't)

Check Go Articles page rank compared to EZA. If page rank was as important as some would want you to believe , this would be a virtual tie .

Could it be that a search for what directory is already on page one could directly relate to which directory you might choose for a given keyword ?

Would it be smarter to do the off and on page for your own site and rank your own real estate?

Even if you decide to go the true bum route ... would it benefit you more to find an article directory admin that , while demanding quality, publishes your articles in a timely manner .

Could it be off page tactics will work just as well in promoting your article published on a directory in 24 hours as it would for one that publishes in a few days to a few weeks ?

If so ... which one will get you a sale quicker... the one published in 24 hours or the one two weeks later?

Might be a good idea to ask yourself some questions before taking any advice as gospel.

Even the gospel according to Troy

[winebuddy]

I have spoken to many marketers who use iContact as their autoresponder of choice but it is based upon the particulars of the system vs. Aweber.

Excellent post and I agree. I can sometimes get to page 1 number one with just one article on Go articles.

[freudianslip27]

Yes! I hope this is an eye-opening post for people. There are other games in town folks!

Of course there's a reason those two places are popular, a lot of people use them, and for good reason.

I will add my two cents though and share that even though I started with aweber, personally I use my own email server now (with service through smtp.com). I have a lot of offline clients that bring opted in email lists that they get from their in-person customers, and aweber is a pain with importing. Plus, I feel like I have more control over everything.

Matt

[jbode]

It's usually better to choose an autoresponder service based on what you want it to do, while aweber has some cool features, it is not the best for everything.

As far as article marketing is concerned, I go for the diversity myself - why only submit to EZA when you can get your article on a bunch of directories not to mention social media blogging sites.

[mbacak]

Originally Posted by winebuddy

I have spoken to many marketers who use iContact as their autoresponder of choice but it is based upon the particulars of the system vs. Aweber.

They both are great regarding deliverablity. The reason why alot of
people are using iContact besides the great deliverablity is the fact
that it's easier to import you list over to them then Aweber.

[mbacak]

Originally Posted by mbacak

They both are great regarding deliverablity. The reason why alot of
people are using iContact besides the great deliverablity is the fact
that it's easier to import you list over to them then Aweber.

Read this posts confirms this -> http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...o376o1HxHfhSC2

[JoshMcGold]

I agree with this. People need to look at all the options out there. If everyone just focuses on the most popular ones, then it creates a monopoly of sorts and stifles competition.

[Zanti]

Great post Troy,

I decided to go with Imnica Mail instead of Aweber. I did this for a number of reasons, but as you stated, I believe they fit my needs better.

Before Aweber was the Aweber it is today, it was a company that some people took a chance with and it proved to be a good choice for many. I feel that way about Imnica. Althought I don't feel like I'm taking a chance with Imnica, I believe that in time it is going to be one of the major players in AR's.

Kind of like buying stock in google when it first came out. I'm a earlier adapter.

Again great post, especially for those new to AR's and Article Marketing.

Z

[troy23]

There is nothing wrong with Ezine articles. The only ones complaining are the ones who have problems writing good content articles. If you are only concerned in making money and are not passionate about the subject material then don't moan when Ezine Articles reject your article which has been spun 200 times. Anyone should be able to churn out 5 keyword rich 400 word artciles a day. How hard can it be?

[JohnMcCabe]

Troy (the OP), I think part of the reason you see this phenomenon, especially with Aweber, is a snowball effect.

Aweber was one of the first companies with an affiliate program that paid residual commissions. So just about every marketer who suggested an AR suggested Aweber - via an affiliate link. Run this through several generations of marketers, lists, ebooks free and paid, etc. and you have massive numbers of recommendations.

I'm not knocking Aweber. I'm an affiliate myself.

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by David Halek

Has anyone actually done any kind of testing of EZA against GoArticles or any other article directory? It seems to me it would be a great thread. My own abilities are far too deficient to attempt it, but someone who is an expert in SEO and analytics could really have a home run with this idea. Just my two cents.

Allen Graves and The Rich Jerks Net (James ) could probably tell you a lot on this type of testing

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by troy23

There is nothing wrong with Ezine articles. The only ones complaining are the ones who have problems writing good content articles. If you are only concerned in making money and are not passionate about the subject material then don't moan when Ezine Articles reject your article which has been spun 200 times. Anyone should be able to churn out 5 keyword rich 400 word artciles a day. How hard can it be?

My post never said anything bad about EZA. I stated it was a resource...just not the only resource

[actionplanbiz]

aweber is expensive =/

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Troy (the OP), I think part of the reason you see this phenomenon, especially with Aweber, is a snowball effect.

Aweber was one of the first companies with an affiliate program that paid residual commissions. So just about every marketer who suggested an AR suggested Aweber - via an affiliate link. Run this through several generations of marketers, lists, ebooks free and paid, etc. and you have massive numbers of recommendations.

I'm not knocking Aweber. I'm an affiliate myself.

I think most of us are affiliates for aweber

For me personally , Clicks that convert are very low . Could have something to do with extended cookies .

I also am an affiliate for another unknown ar and average a conversion every four clicks .

Thank you for an intelligent , thought out answer

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by actionplanbiz

aweber is expensive =/

Aweber is a little higher priced than others . If they fit your needs they are still worth the price .

The ar I use most of the time ( I have used aweber , I contact , Get response, and the ar I use now responce 20) is less that $13 a month up to 10,000

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by DirkPimsler

I personally use Aweber and Ezine ALL the time because they work, and that is what I know.

I occasionally submit to Goarticles and others, but if Ezine and Aweber can provide for me I'll stick with them.

Like all other websites, its only a matter of time before Ezinearticles falls.

They do work. Would it be a smart business move to broaden your knowledge and resources?

EZA could possibly fall any day . I was told Google was going to around 5 years ago. We have all seen how they have been crushed :-)

[krypton1]

A lot of people use Aweber to publish their blog posts...have you guys tried FeedmailPro.com?

People always said Aweber was worth the high price because of deliverability, but those guys are using the same email accreditation company as Aweber.

[krypton1]

Forgot to mention, regarding the trouble importing a list to Aweber, check out FeedmailPro's solution:

How does list importing wor... - FeedmailPro.com

They basically let you import any list without another opt-in, but they start rolling out to it slowly and check for bounce, unsubscribes, complaints, before using the whole thing. Totally automated.

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by krypton1

Forgot to mention, regarding the trouble importing a list to Aweber, check out FeedmailPro's solution:

How does list importing wor... - FeedmailPro.com

They basically let you import any list without another opt-in, but they start rolling out to it slowly and check for bounce, unsubscribes, complaints, before using the whole thing. Totally automated.

Seems to be a good resource . Have bookmarked site . With the 1000 free members I will probably test .

Would hit the thanks button but must be over limit today as it has disappeared

[troy23]

"My post never said anything bad about EZA. I stated it was a resource...just not the only resource"

Sure, but for some reason it's fallen out of favour with people. Before it was the be and end all. My point is it is still the best out there - people just need to be passionate about what they are doing.

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by troy23

"My post never said anything bad about EZA. I stated it was a resource...just not the only resource"

Sure, but for some reason it's fallen out of favour with people. Before it was the be and end all. My point is it is still the best out there - people just need to be passionate about what they are doing.

You hit one thing on the head.

Quality is a winner every time . This is just not with articles but should begin as the cornerstone of a business and continue throughout every aspect .

I was guilty of trying to rush through the process in general in the beginning . I am currently evaluating every aspect of my online business. If I feel that there is not enough quality in any phase I am redoing it .

Paul Myers said something in one of his products that has really stuck with me as of late .

This is not a quote but the general idea goes something like: there is a big difference in a series of quick money ventures and a long term business.

[troy23]

Yes I agree with that. I've not done anything black hat at all. All I've done is write loads of articles, some YouTube marketing and that combined with organic searches seems to bring me steady traffic. I've tried the one page sales page, but it never worked for me.

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by troy23

Yes I agree with that. I've not done anything black hat at all. All I've done is write loads of articles, some YouTube marketing and that combined with organic searches seems to bring me steady traffic. I've tried the one page sales page, but it never worked for me.

My sales page skills are less than stellar .

This is just another reason for promote via list . Those on my list are used to my conversational style . I can usually skip the sales page and put the buy now link in the email and get great results .

[troy23]

I have a list of almost 1600. They get 52 weeks of free content (pdf and video). However they seem reluctant to pay for anything.

[Troy_Phillips]

Take the ones that do buy and funnel them to a new list . What if you took the 52 weeks worth of content and gave it to them in 52 days ?

The ones that remain on your list will be loyal and expect to hear from you often.... the ones that don't more n likely are not buying anyway.