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| Money Grows On Trees... War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: In the trenches...
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Call it recession, call it bad luck. Whatever the hell it is, it's killing my sales. I've gone from a healthy 2-10% conversion ratio on my eBook, and a few CB sales per week, to NADA. Sales have dried up, even though the traffic is flowing as normal. I've got no idea what's going on recently. Has there been a news story about global internet scams or something public that has shattered consumer confidence? I'm pretty sure there hasn't been. I guess at the end of the day, bad weeks happen, not just bad days. But this is the worst I've had this year. Let's hope it doesn't continue. It's another alarm bell for diversity I think. In other words, it's time to start dabbling in even more markets. I simply refuse the notion that poor sales are universally related across many industries at the same time. So, have you had a dip in sales recently? |
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For me too... Did you read this thread? ![]() Clickbank sales have dropped like a rock. Anyone else Having This Problem? Eswar |
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Plus, I can accept CB might have "issues", but that doesn't account for my own in house payment processing, unless Paypal also have "issues" at the same time. I kinda like it though...makes me sit up and pay attention. I work much harder when I feel that beer money might be limited at the end of the month. | |
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I just quickly read some of the links relating to this CB issue. Did anyone actually email CB and ask them directly if there is an issue? Seems a lot of evidence to suggest sales are not tracking or at least not processing... Aaron |
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If traffic is still exactly the same, then test all of your payment processes. Your host may have made changes to the server that could mess things up. There was also a thread in the forum where someone had the same problem; turns out somebody had hacked into his site. Or you could just be having a bad week... :-) (Hope it picks up soon, either way!) Suzanne |
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check all your links - there was someone else who had this problem and it was discovered that they'd had all their links hijacked. Kindest regards, Karl | |
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Things have been steady and rising for me. It is important to see opportunity in every financial crisis. What do people need who are losing their homes, or jobs? And when people lose homes and jobs, often they start to lose control on their families, and marraiges. Hence, there is always a need. |
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I don't believe it has anything to do with tracking or sales registering with CB. I made a personal recommendation for a product on CB to one person several days ago, and saw in my stats the next day that they had purchased. John |
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Even though I am still having a good month, my sales for September are down about $4,000 from August, which just happened to be my best month of the year, so maybe that's not a fair comparison. August saw me finish with over $13,000 in sales. September, I am looking to finish around $9,000 IF I don't make another sale the rest of this month, which at the rate things are going, might not be too far from reality. I don't know what's going on. I know that there is a lot of uncertainty in the US right now because of the elections. There are many people who do not like either choice for President. I am one of them. As a result, many are hesitant to commit to anything, especially those looking for home biz ops. I have noticed that in my lead generation programs, ones I have been using for over 5 years now, the drop is leads is STAGGERING. They have dried up to almost nothing. So there is no question about it, something is going on, in certain niches anyway, that is making things hard. This is why I got into affiliate marketing the last few months and because of that, most of my income this month is from that (outside of IM and in niches that don't get affected as much by the economy) and therefore, I am still having a decent month. I don't know what October will bring and quite honestly, I'm a bit concerned. But I am NOT going to worry about it. All I can do is my best. Continue to go through my marketing, using tried and proven methods and try to look for more opportunities. I don't know the meaning of the word fail and therefore will not even entertain the notion that my business will go under, even if we have the worst depression since 1929. The strong will survive...and so will I. |
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Economy is in the toilet folks... even BANKS are tanking.
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It just could be a 911 moment i.e. there were wild gyrations in the world financial markets last week and people were glued to their TV sets. It should return to normal very soon. -Derek |
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hi, there seems to be an issue with CB as this has been posted on various other forums too. im sure CB will check & fix & must have so many emails too!! |
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My conversion rates are going up and down. Things are weird out there. This country is in a weird state, with the war, out sourcing, gas and energy, credit crunch, and much more. Lot's of bad stuff going on right now, no, or very few good. Not trying to sound negative, but we have some real challenges on our hands. Keep your expenses under control, don't stop advertising and marketing, track everything you do, and look for more and higher margin items to sell. |
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Take a look at the Clickbank index graph at cb-analytics.com Looks like a nice little crash. |
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This certainly doesn't look good. We do live in interesting times clickbank.com - Traffic Details from Alexa paydotcom.com - Traffic Details from Alexa cj.com - Traffic Details from Alexa performics.com - Traffic Details from Alexa shareasale.com - Traffic Details from Alexa |
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And interestingly, PayPal looks pretty constant apart from a spike over the summer. paypal.com - Traffic Details from Alexa Cheers, Neil |
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For me, super srong sales rolled in from Labor Day weekend through Sept. 10th, while I was away in Alaska! Then, sales fell off the cliff. No changes to the marketing in place. Go figure. And remember, my avg. sale is approx. $2,500 in a market where the product could be thought of as a (heaven forbid) discretionary luxury item. Lou |
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Hmmm, I sell two types of products as an affiliate from the marketplace. The ones that are still making consistent sales are the ones in the "how to make money" niche. All the other ones as many have reported are at their record low for me.
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"It's another alarm bell for diversity I think. In other words, it's time to start dabbling in even more markets. I simply refuse the notion that poor sales are universally related across many industries at the same time." Yeah, get your hands in as many pockets as possible! |
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Mine too... :-( .. things seem down the last 10 days or so... But at times like this, it makes me think on how i can build up my business and bring it to the next level. Oh well, back to the board, and come up with a solution fast. |
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My sales are down just slightly - not particularly this week but the whole month. Hopefully things will straighten out and things will get back to normal soon.
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MY sales actually have exploded. Your problem might be that your marketing message has gone stale. That happened to me. I saw on one of my main niche sites, sales decrease to almost nothing. So I wrote a whole fresh new ebook for my niche redid my whole opt in page, and gave the book away for free. Then I dropped the price 50%. Sales have been higher than ever before. I can't take all the credit for this cuz I got the idea of refreshing my marketing message from Charlie Cooks free book he just came out with. Looking at the economy and all that for decrease in sales is the worse thing you can do. Never take responsibilty out of your hands. When you do that you are basically saying you have no control over how much money you make. Which is false. In your case your marketing message might have just gone stale. time to get fresh. Daniel |
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| Bingo. There is no confidence killer like weakness in the financial system. It's not just the economy. There are many factors to the overall picture which kill buyer confidence. Additionally, it is normal for some weakness in sales in the 2-3 months before elections. This happens every 4 years. It won't matter who's elected, most will heave a big sigh of relief just knowing who the next U.S. President will be (remember, that does have a significant international influence now), and that alone will restore some confidence and loosen some purse strings. Hang in there, guys. This is a rough patch, but it will get better. Bailey
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Rather, those external influences provide essential clues how to better connect with my customers. I believe the marketing message is going stale BECAUSE OF factors like the economy, credit crisis, etc. The marketing message has to be brought up to date to better speak to current issues and our customers' current worries. Like it or not, the world does change, constantly, and there is nothing we can do to stop it. But no matter what is going on, good or bad, we as sellers must tailor our marketing message to keep our products pertinent. If we don't keep up with the times, we'll get left behind. Bailey
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Not sure if you are trying to argue or prove my point. I just said it's not the economy why decrease of sales. You just came behind me and confirmed that by basically saying "It's our lack of adapting to the new economy". Which is the exact same thing. That means it's in YOUR HANDS. You have to adapt and refresh your marketing message. Thats not the same thing as saying "My sales are down because the economy is bad". If thats the case your sales will always be down. Daniel | |
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Hmm - my sales are way up. Of course I don't touch clickbank so maybe that is why. |
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My traffic is actually up the past week and my sales are way down. Nothing has changed on my end to make this happen so not sure what is going on. I figure it will straighten itself out shortly. Hope so anyway.
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Echoing the other Warriors I believe it might be due to some glitch in links. If it's not, then you might want to check that your products are not being downloaded for free somehow. |
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Good answer Bayo. I was promoting ebooks on a review site and sales dropped to zero. They were all available for free with a simple google search. That's what I get for promoting old products. Now, my other sales have dropped too so I think people not having extra spending money because of the economy is hurting some niches. |
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Same here traffic and conversions are in the toilet. With the economy and stock market this last week many people are probably remaining at the side lines only buying needs not wants. It is kind of disappointing. This time of year I usually see traffic increases and a slight improvement in conversions.
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Actually I think a sales drop is normal in September. Kids back in school and all the costs that parents incur. This could be part of the reason. |
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Hello, I've been in consumer sales for 30 years. I'm not talking about at a retail level but about direct in-home selling. There are good months and there are bad months. There are good years and there are bad years. If anything I have learned, that it is the attitude of the salesman more than anything else that determines whether there will be a sale or not. Here is an interesting story that you might enjoy. ------------------------------------------------ The Hot Dog Man and the Recession Once upon a time, there was a good man, who had worked hard all his life. He disliked his work. It was not rewarding. His boss was never happy. But he worked hard. Until, one day, this man decided he had had enough, and he quit. He just walked out. He went home and told his wife. She cried. How are we going to send our boy to college”, she asked? The man thought for a minute and then said, “I will think of something”. After a while, he decided to do something he has always wanted to do. He would sell hot dogs on the street corner from a little hot dog cart on wheels. He took his savings and bought a hot dog cart. His friends were not too sure about this. But the hot dog man started selling hot dogs on the street corner, in his hometown. They were good hot dogs. Best quality. Not cheap, but he charged enough to pay for them. Things went pretty well right from the beginning People liked his hot dogs. He always made sure to have plenty of fresh ketchup and mustard and onions. Every customer got a smile with their hot dog. He did very well, and soon more people wanted his hot dogs. More than he could serve. So he bought another hot dog cart. His son pushed the new cart. He made good hot dogs too. And every one of the Son's customers got a smile and a thank you to go with their hot dog. The hot dog man made sure to teach his son about this. The two did well, and saved the money they made, until it was time for the boy to go to college. There was enough money to send him to school even if the hot dog man paid another young man to push the second cart. “Give them a smile with every hot dog,” he told his first employee. It worked fine. This gave him an idea. He bought a third cart and hired a second employee. Every year the city grew and every year he added a few more carts. The hot dog man’s company did very well. Buns and dogs were coming in bigger trucks these days. He was glad the son decided to study business in college. Their hot dog company was hiring more and more people and getting bigger and bigger. It would be great when the son returned home with all that college education to help him manage it. The big day finally arrived. The son came home from college. Dad was excited. Mom too. There was a BIG Party. Everybody came. Then it was time to get to work. But the son was not interested in working in the hot dog company. He wanted to do something more grand. The hot dog man was sad. But then he asked, “Can you just look over our books and give me some advice?” “Sure”, said the son, while looking at his watch. “Things are going pretty good”, said the hot dog man. He got the books and paperwork out to proudly show the son what they had become while he was gone. The son looked things over and thought for a minute. Then he said, “Gee, Dad, you have an awful lot of hot dog carts. And Expenses.” Then he asked, “Don’t you know a Recession is coming?”. The hot dog man did not know what a Recession was, so he asked. The son explained what he had learned in college about Recessions. The hot dog man shook his head in amazement. He thought things were OK, but his son was just out of college. The hot dog man had worked a lot of hours to pay for that college education. He thought surely the college people knew more about business than he did, so he listened. The son said, maybe you should mothball a few carts this season… So that is what the hot dog man did. After a month or so, sales were down. The son and the hot dog man looked things over again. The son said they should cut advertising expenses a little. The hot dog man was sure the son must know about these things, So that is what they did. Sure enough, sales went down. A few months later the books were worse. The Son said profits were being squeezed by the Recession. He said they should buy a cheaper hot dog. Save a little money. So they did. Sure enough, Sales went down. After a while the son looked again at the books. Again. He said, “Gee Dad, you’re not making much money. Maybe you should cut payroll a little. So they laid off a few employees. The ones who stayed on were not too sure what would happen next. They stopped giving a smile with every hot dog. And sales went down even more. Things were gloomy until the hot dog man had a great idea. He called all his employees together. Even the ones that had been let go. He told them something like this. "Sometimes things are easy and sometimes things are hard. It's easy to lose your way when things are hard." He admitted that he had been scared by this recession. Then he went on. "Things have been hard lately. BUT, we are going to go back to doing what worked before. We will buy a better hot dog. We will run a few ads. We will get all the carts out of storage. And everybody will have a job. I don't care what it costs." Only one thing", he added, "Ya gotta give every customer a smile with their hot dog". They promised they would. And so they did. Sure enough... sales went up. And they keep going up to this very day. ------------------------------------------------ if anything I have learned that in bad times I just have to do more. What I mean by that is that if I normally write five articles to generate traffic now I might need to write 10. I need to increase my activity because of bad times. In slow times closing rates become smaller so I may need to talk to more people or in the case of Internet marketing, I need to generate more traffic. These are the times when you make sure everything that you think is working is really working. In good times you get tend to get lazy. Sales are good people are buying. Lean times make you stronger. There's an old Russian proverb... The same Hammer that shatters the glass -- also forges the steel! MadMoney |
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Something odd happened around the first part of September. But from reading the threads, I'm not the only one. On one of my sites I went from daily sales, to 3 or 4 sales a week to zero, zilch, zip. This process began about the end of August, first part of September. I noted a substantial traffic drop for about a week, then traffic started coming back up to what I consider my normal levels, but the sales didn't come back. Site is still listed, in fact the number of indexed pages is UP. I also noticed that adsense clicks aren't generating as much, not too concerned about that really, just an observation. I guess I'll just go have a hot dog and wait it out. |
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What's your niche? Technically, any niche outside of making money or the new-fangled gas creation niche is going to experience a downturn. Want to lose weight? Simple solution: eat less, save money. Common sense dictates such a niche will experience a decline. What more, doo-dads like cars, gadgets etc. Fabian |
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I have been worried horribly over my sales for the past week, but this thread has made me feel much relieved that it isn't just ME or mistakes that I am making. I have two major sources of income. One has gone up, and one has quit entirely. The one that quit has changed owners, been bought out. My unique traffic has gone up by 5,000 monthly 67% of my visitors are now marking a page as a favorite, compared to 52% several months ago. I'm also getting more signups, and more downloads. So, I have raised prices on the book covers I make, and I'm giving away free samples. During this slump I have more time so I'm buying new software and learning to use it. Somebody's business must be going up. I'm also planting fruit trees on one 40 acre patch and just enjoying the scenery, getting the little row boat ready, the canoe patched and trying to decide if I have enough nerve to take up kayaking. There is four miles of river running through here to practice on, but it's been convulsed with repeated floods this year. Maybe I'll just buy a bath tub big enough to put it in. |
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Last year, the week between Christmas and New Year (including Christmas Day!) was busy sales-wise for me. When you can find a reason why some people aren't buying (eg they have spent all their money on Christmas presents), you can usually find a reason why others are (eg they are on holiday from their day jobs and are spending time on their online business). Cheers, Neil | |
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My online sales are down, particularly Click Bank and my other stuff, resell, plr, mrr are lagging. The memberships sites are flat. I think a lot of people by "make money" type products because they "need" extra money but... if they don't make money from these purchases they will eventually quit buying, they can't afford to spend any more or incur more debt. So started dipping my toes into offline services to people with disposable income and I have been swamped. The interest from small biz "brochure sites" to personal family websites/picture albums that people can maintain easily (wordpress) has been rather astounding. I was leery of the price points I started with thinking that potential customers would say thanks but no thanks, but they did not even raise an eyebrow. Naturally I increased my prices. It will be interesting to see what goes on at Christmas. maybe try marketing family blog/picture websites as a Christmas gift. We will see, Tom | |
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| In salesmanship what is ultimately important is your attitude. Attitude determines your Altitude. Instead of seeing a bad week of sales, why not see a challenging week to upgrade sales performance? Instead of saying it’s a bad day of sales, why not say it a day for more improvement? Instead of thinking “I cannot make sales today,” force your thought to concentrate on the benefits that will come from successful sales. Instead of listening to woos, failures and obstacles others tell about their sales, leave the place to where you will hear stories of laughter of joy, success and opportunities for more sales. Do not sit idle bemoaning your circumstances, get up and dust yourself for a better tomorrow… That is the spirit of successful salesmanship! Adiari Captain. |
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While it is possible that it's harder to make sales the solution is to work harder and smarter. Then if sales eventually get back to normal you'll be cashing in from all that extra effort. If sales never get back to normal you'll still be making the income you were making previously. Suck it up and start working. Kindest regards, Andrew Cavanagh |
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FWIW, I'm in the same boat. Still getting the same traffic, CB is tracking all the hops, but where I used to get a sale every 40-50 hops, now it's up to like 300. (which is no longer profitable, but I'm breaking even because of my backend) This started after the 9/9/08 clickbank update. Where I had been getting 1-2 sales/day on one offer, now I'm getting 1 a week. Hopefully, if it really is an issue with CB it will get resolved soon. Joe |
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Had to laugh when I saw this thread... I've had times when my sales have dropped, and others here report record weeks! This time, although I haven't broken any records, I've certainly had a better September than expected. My IM related promotions are as good as they were in April, and my non-IM niche promotions continue to grow. For what it's worth, I do promote CB products, and had a really good week for one of my promotions in particular from the marketplace. There's definitely plenty of products/service that you can bank on, even with the state of the global economy. |
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