An urgent plea from a family on the brink...

[NathanFalkner]

Originally Posted by John Cabral

I haqve been doing accounting for over 20 yrs last
10 in either a controller or assistant controller status
and have my degree.

My uncle was in a somewhat similar situation. Like
you, he struggled to find what he perceived to be
suitable employment after being caught up in a
round of layoffs at the company he worked at for
many, many years. With a family to support, he was
feeling the heat. Ultimately, he got a job as a (don't
laugh) tax preparer for an H&R Block franchise. It's
highly seasonal work, but it was something. After
one tax season with H&R Block, he went out on his
own and started his own tax preparation company
that services small businesses (who file quarterly)
and individuals. He's the main guy in the office, and
employs two assistants. Best of all, he's happy now.

Many people would rather eat staples for breakfast
rather than prepare their own taxes or deal with
accounting issues. Maybe you can start and market
your own tax/accounting company.

[NathanFalkner]

Originally Posted by Shane Dolby

Heck write a report on business taxes/deductions
even personal taxes and sell it i see people all the
time asking for tax help and its getting to that point
in a couple months.

Absolutely! Best of all, John is evidently qualified to
provide reasonably competent tax/accounting advice,
which is a great selling point. It's worth exploring.

[Allen Graves]

I'm sorry, but if it comes down to my family, I will go and flip burgers at McDonalds for minimum wage - I don't care.

I was there and I did it (actually I got a software customer service job for peanuts).

Sitting around waiting for your Internet Marketing ship to come in is doing nothing but getting you further in the hole.

Christmas is coing up - even a seasonal job could help. Go look on Toys-R-Us.com or go to your local mall. Get in the frickin' car and drive around town. Restaurants - Retail Stores - Fast Food - Manual Labor - Telemarketing - Office Jobs - Post Office.

Plus there's Monster.com, CareerBuilder.com, HotJobs.com and a ton of other job placement assistance websites.

I'm not trying to be mean or spiteful, I'm just trying to bring things out of the IM trance and into reality. If you are financially unstable, there is a very common solution that 99% of people do - get a job.

I know that the allure of working from home is very strong. But if things are just getting worse for you, I think you need to get out there and start pounding the streets.

Allen

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Shane Dolby

John you have a degree in accounting? why not get hooked up and do taxes for people and businesses on the side? or even at hr block or something.

Heck write a report on business taxes/deductions even personal taxes and sell it i see people all the time asking for tax help and its getting to that point in a couple months.

Shane

A stellar idea!

While you are working, you can start building a site to sell your Internet Marketing Tax Information ebook. I would certainly buy it if I knew it could save me some dough. And I'm sure it could since I don't do any of that extra deduction stuff (maily because nobody has ever told me about it).

Then you could offer a membership section or a price-scheduled service to help IMers with their taxes.

Dude - I'd run with that if I were you.

Allen

[John Cabral]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

A stellar idea!

While you are working, you can start building a site to sell your Internet Marketing Tax Information ebook. I would certainly buy it if I knew it could save me some dough. And I'm sure it could since I don't do any of that extra deduction stuff (maily because nobody has ever told me about it).

Then you could offer a membership section or a price-scheduled service to help IMers with their taxes.

Dude - I'd run with that if I were you.

Allen

Allen I am working on the HR Block idea but as far as taxes thats and area I am not really familiar with. Individual taxes yes business no. I tried doing taxes for individuals but that has never worked. Never could get clients. Guess trust factor or they feel if they pay more they are getting better service.

Experience and degrees don't seem to matter much as I have seen people with Masters not be able to find work.

I am thinking of putting together a report on budgeting and making your money stretch if there is a want/need...

That I can do.

[JohnMcCabe]

Here's an idea to at least get your wife that bus pass while you figure things out...

Day labor, for one or both of you. One Saturday spent gluing labels on shampoo bottles or schlepping cartons gets you bus money for a month.

A town the size of Olympia should have at least one temp agency.

Good luck to you...

[Kay King]

Allen I am working on the HR Block idea but as far as taxes thats and area I am not really familiar with. Individual taxes yes business no. I tried doing taxes for individuals but that has never worked. Never could get clients. Guess trust factor or they feel if they pay more they are getting better service.

How long ago did you try for individual tax prep work? This year could be different as people are looking for "cheap" out of necessity. A woman I know offered flat rate for basic tax prep for individuals - one rate for those who did not itemize and one rate for those who did.

She advertised in the local paper (small ad), told friends and co-workers she was offering the service to help people out - and ended up having almost work than she could handle. Times are different - and people look for deals.

Another possibility is offering cut-rate prices for small business accounting. Even a few accounts could make a difference for you.

kay

[mojojuju]

This won't fix your transmission, but go to the food pantry's to save some money. I used to do that when I was in a financial bind. If you live in a decent sized city, there's probably half a dozen to a dozen pantry. Some of them actually have good food. I'm not talking about government cheese. There were times I walked out of those places with lamb, ground buffalo, donated fresh garden vegetables, and bread from a local bakery that was just a day old.

For a car, like others have said, a beater's probably your best bet. There's cars out there for under a grand that have a lot of miles left on them.

[dadwillguideu]

Originally Posted by shaddai

Check your PM's.

the site refuses to allow the link to my story so, close da spaces, its
guidewithknowledge<dot>blogspot<dot>com
Good luck

check here for the latest known SCAMS goin on.
I had a guy approach me with a similar story at airborne school in ft benning georgia. I was able to get him to finally tell me the truth, but beware these scumbags. This guy IS making alot of money but its from US the public GIVING him money NOT him working for it.

[actionplanbiz]

Very cool reply's

1st thing to do is sell everything you dont need.
and while your doing that look for a Job.

other things i agree with above replys that you can do "while looking for a Job"

Freelance your Stuff
there was a good idea for a PLR membership site in one of the replys
look in in the classifieds or local craigslist for a Bike (better than nothing)

[Andie]

Hi All -
Essence.......I feel for you! Wish I had the means to help, but wayy too close to the same boat myself (except our useless junk is my daughter's wrecked car sitting in the drive waiting on ins. settlement).
Oh, and MY paypal is running at 11 bucks, so you are up on me there

Anyway, to the rest who say 'hop the bus' and 'walk to places'......and that's too much for a trans.---

Until you walk a mile in their shoes.....
If you can't say something nice don't say anything.....
(thank my mother for those wonderful life sayings)

I am going to pm you a link and while it does not help for this week; I am really recommending reading it because it is quite useful for moments in life like this. (i'm almost done with it and absolutely love it frankly)

Be inventive, hold on to your faith and I hope God Blesses you.
Andie

[John Cabral]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

I'm sorry, but if it comes down to my family, I will go and flip burgers at McDonalds for minimum wage - I don't care.

I was there and I did it (actually I got a software customer service job for peanuts).

Sitting around waiting for your Internet Marketing ship to come in is doing nothing but getting you further in the hole.

Christmas is coing up - even a seasonal job could help. Go look on Toys-R-Us.com or go to your local mall. Get in the frickin' car and drive around town. Restaurants - Retail Stores - Fast Food - Manual Labor - Telemarketing - Office Jobs - Post Office.

Plus there's Monster.com, CareerBuilder.com, HotJobs.com and a ton of other job placement assistance websites.

I'm not trying to be mean or spiteful, I'm just trying to bring things out of the IM trance and into reality. If you are financially unstable, there is a very common solution that 99% of people do - get a job.

I know that the allure of working from home is very strong. But if things are just getting worse for you, I think you need to get out there and start pounding the streets.

Allen

Allen I agree with th ewaiting for the IM ship or any ship is def not good idea but again depending on your past position experiences it can hamper you getting that job at BK.

Why because you will be perceived as a threat to existing manager. Heck why would BK hire me at min wages when I am a degree'd account. A lot of places will see you as someone who can take their job and it has happened to me.

I am looking at learning taxes and I know its seasonal but hey its something.

I do however have many years of handling the day to day accounting of small business so I do have some advice there.

You know what as an accountant you see things that most don't or understand and not even the people running or country do. Common sense seems to be lacking in the White House but don't get me started on that topic. LOL

There are some things individuals and families can do to weather the storm, some may not be considered sound financial advice but when faced with feeding your family or saving your credit I say screw your credit and feed your family. Banks and credit card companies are a bunch of crooks who now are taking advantage of those already struggling.

Here is something I did which goes against sound accounting pratice but it was an option for me and I took it.

When I had not been working for 8 months and my unemployment check ran out and I was faced with how I was going to pay for my car I took advantage of my credit and used my credit cards to pay off my car.

If you have the opportunity and can take advantage of those 12 month free interest cash advances do it. Nothing worse then having your car repo'ed and not having transportation.

I live in South Florida and transportation is a joke so without a car I would be screwed big time. Plus I have my son in school and need to be able to pick him up on time.

I also think that you should start a budget if you haven't already.

Ok my two cents.

[hotftuna]

I offered to hire this guy to write some articles and have not heard back.

[hotftuna]

OK I was just contacted

[John Cabral]

Originally Posted by Kay King

How long ago did you try for individual tax prep work? This year could be different as people are looking for "cheap" out of necessity. A woman I know offered flat rate for basic tax prep for individuals - one rate for those who did not itemize and one rate for those who did.

She advertised in the local paper (small ad), told friends and co-workers she was offering the service to help people out - and ended up having almost work than she could handle. Times are different - and people look for deals.

Another possibility is offering cut-rate prices for small business accounting. Even a few accounts could make a difference for you.

kay

I am going to do that but for some reason I always seem to have problems getting clients. Not the best salesperson I guess. I have a buddy who has been doing book keeping for liek 20 yrs on his own and his clients are dropping like flies and he is now struggling. He just lost a client of 20 years.

The economy is not that much worse or better than last year but nothing should be left un-tried.

[kindsvater]

Count me as one of the "meanies" because this is garbage.

Not your family's financial situation - everyone can sympathize with that. I've had the sudden transmission failure and unexpected $4k bill. Not a pleasant experience at all.

I'm talking about you coming into this forum and apparently pitching bogus WSOs.

Earlier this year you ran a WSO promoting how to make a lifetime asset from nothing and said "Today, I work 3 or 4 hours each day, 4 or 5 days each week, and every week, my income creeps up."

Then you ran a WSO about how you can convert PLR into a "BOATLOAD of cash!"

There there was your WSO pimping "A foolproof method for making your first $50 by tomorrow night -- all you need is a PayPal account." and "The plan that I used to take the profits from that startup product and turn them into a stable, long-term asset."

Remember this WSO title: "YOU can succeed! Get some $$ TONIGHT, use it to take ACTION, and stop DOUBTING!!"

Here's my advice: since you're only working 3 hours a day, 4 days a week, making lifetime assets, a boatload of cash, quick money overnight, etc, - either put in a few more hours each day, or spend your free time trying to find seasonal labor with every business in the area.

If you have a foolproof plan to make $50 tonight - there you go - more than enough to cover bus money for the week.

Really, sorry to be so harsh, and maybe I'll get flamed for this post, but you come in here bragging about working only a couple hours a day, making quick and easy money from your WSOs -- with the purpose of getting other Warriors to pay you money -- and then this thread.

If you know anything about me you know my family gives to a lot of charities, and we just made some more donations recently. But at some point you need to be responsible for getting a job, any job, then building your IM empire on the side.

[Essence]

Hotftuna, I've been asleep. I just PMed you. ;p

I'm sorry, but if it comes down to my family, I will go and flip burgers at McDonalds for minimum wage - I don't care.

I was there and I did it (actually I got a software customer service job for peanuts).

Sitting around waiting for your Internet Marketing ship to come in is doing nothing but getting you further in the hole.

I just want to say this again: I'm broke because I just paid my bills. I'm not sitting on my butt, unemployed and suffering. With my wife's new job, we'll be in the black by a small but noticable margin each month.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm absolutley grovelingly grateful for the people who have offered to hire me, and I will absolutley work like a champion for them, because those extra customers will give me the money I need to start working on a project like the membership site described in the beginning of this thread.

But I'm absolutely not looking for donations (in fact, the one that was offered to me, I turned down), and I'm not unwilling to work.

The simple fact is, I've been a fast-food manager, a retail manager, an insurance salesman, a technical writer, and an IT-support geek over the last decade -- and I still go to the local WorkSource office and have them run checks for jobs that match my profile...and there simply aren't any. I've already been turned down for every fast-food middle management job in town, because I've already been in a fast-food top-management position, and people don't want me to steal their jobs.

So I have to be an entrepreneur. I have to create my own work. And honestly, if it's a choice between doing it at home where I can watch my 1-year-old while my wife it as work and paying for daycare while I'm out drilling peepholes in doors, I'm going to fight hard to be able to raise my own kid. So I write.

(Oh, and the bus pass would be a great idea, but the bus stop that would take her to work is 1.5 miles up a slow but steady incline, and my wife has crippling asthma. She'd never make it. That's why a functional vehicle is so critical to us.)


But none of this is relevant to the thread.

This thread started with a request for an idea -- an idea that would help me get my transmission fixed. As many people have pointed out, that's not the best option, and I was panicking and not thinking clearly. I'm grateful for that revelation. My problem is not as overwhelming as it seemed in the few hours after it first rocked me out of my routine. I'm overjoyed!

With the help and ideas of the people here, I've had a revelation about how to get money 'up front' for a long-term commitment (the PLR subscription site concept), and with it, I'm going to work on getting enough cash to pay for a clunker until I can save up enough to get our minivan working again. That was exactly the kind of 'tool' that I was looking for, and I'm grateful to have it.


To everyone with empathy and well-wishes, I'm grateful for your spiritual support.

To everyone with cynicism and bitter assumptions, consider your attitude and it's effects on your own life.


My panic has passed, and I am going to take complete advantage of both the knowledge and the generous offers of work that this thread has given me. We'll have an old clunker soon, and a repaired van a few weeks after that.


Thank you, everyone.

[AnneE]

Originally Posted by lazavas

yes life does happen, and its happened to me as well, but i would never come on here and post something like this, im gonna be blunt but im sick and tired of people doing this, do we really want this forum to be the place people come to and ask for help, this may be a legit situation and im sure it is but open ur eyes! MILLIONS of people are going through this and yes i have been one of them and i do "understand" but give me a break!

ive never made a paypal donation to one of these and i NEVER will!

u gotta fight, simple as that, u gotta FIGHT in this life

sorry if this is a bit harsh but that is EXACTLY how i feel and i aint gonna be scared to voice my opinion like many others on here

I'm not going to be scared to voice my opinion either, which is that your (lazavas) opinion stinks. You say you would never post here if you were in this situation. Fine. Bully for you. You say, "u gotta fight..." right the guy who posted this thread IS trying to fight, trying to rally. He was just looking for a little coaching and cheerleading from the sidelines.

You ask if we want this forum to be about people asking for help? As opposed to leaving people feeling like they don't know where to turn for help? I'd rather have them turn here. This guy didn't ask for a Paypal payment, he asked for ideas because he knows Warriors have lots of good ideas.

And that is just my opinion!

[Essence]

Originally Posted by kindsvater

I'm talking about you coming into this forum and apparently pitching bogus WSOs.

That's quite a judgement for you to be making.

Earlier this year you ran a WSO promoting how to make a lifetime asset from nothing and said "Today, I work 3 or 4 hours each day, 4 or 5 days each week, and every week, my income creeps up."

Which was true at the time. Two months later, for no reason that I could determine, the website (www.fromtheinside.info, not currently online) went from pulling in good comissions from Clickbank to pulling in exactly nothing. This was around the time that everyone was complaining about getting scammed by Clickbank, so I shrugged, said "things change", and moved on to a new project.

Then you ran a WSO about how you can convert PLR into a "BOATLOAD of cash!"

Which got zero responses. The idea here was that I knew that I didn't have the skills to market products (thus my much-later "I need a mentor" thread), but I DID have the skills to turn PLR into products. I like to believe that it would have been successful, but I screwed up the initial post to say the cost was three cents per word instead of the intended one cent per three words, so I got no customers. By the time I noticed, I was off the front pages and had started working freelance elsewhere.

My waste of $20.

There there was your WSO pimping "A foolproof method for making your first $50 by tomorrow night -- all you need is a PayPal account." and "The plan that I used to take the profits from that startup product and turn them into a stable, long-term asset."

Also true. The $50 is a simple, one-time-only thing that I've done long ago. The long-term asset discussed was the same website from before. It hadn't failed yet.

Really, sorry to be so harsh, and maybe I'll get flamed for this post, but you come in here bragging about working only a couple hours a day, making quick and easy money from your WSOs -- with the purpose of getting other Warriors to pay you money -- and then this thread.

No one has paid me money from this thread. I won't take it. I understand your concern, but you simply don't have the knowledge to be making the judgements that you are.

[andrew_writes]

Originally Posted by dadwillguideu

the site refuses to allow the link to my story so, close da spaces, its
guidewithknowledge<dot>blogspot<dot>com

That is because you only have one post.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by lazavas

yes life does happen, and its happened to me as well, but i would never come on here and post something like this, im gonna be blunt but im sick and tired of people doing this, do we really want this forum to be the place people come to and ask for help, this may be a legit situation and im sure it is but open ur eyes! MILLIONS of people are going through this and yes i have been one of them and i do "understand" but give me a break!

ive never made a paypal donation to one of these and i NEVER will!

u gotta fight, simple as that, u gotta FIGHT in this life

sorry if this is a bit harsh but that is EXACTLY how i feel and i aint gonna be scared to voice my opinion like many others on here

I guess that means you don't need anyone. You don't need any help and never will, you can do it all on your own cause remember you gotta fight right? Dude grow up!

Yes millions of people are going through this but it never hurts to ask for help! I know you have said you have been in that situation before, but I can bet that there is some situation that you will end up in someday you will need to ask for help. And this guy isn't even asking for money! So if you don't like the thread, get the %@#& out!

[Lady_T]

Hey Essence,

I'm a single mom and I can relate
to your situation and the way you
feel.

There was a post a while back on
how to search for jobs on craigslist.

You can find copywriting jobs easily
this way.

I used the method and I picked up
5 new clients in 2 days who needed
everything from sales letters to eBooks
to short reports.

These people were willing to pay top
dollar for my services and I ended
up with nearly $2,000 straight to
my paypal account and new clients.

Yeah I had to work my butt off but
it was well worth it.

I'll try to find the thread and pm
you the link.

[Gail Sober]

I hope you did not take my suggestions as insulting or anything. I promise you they weren't.

As you said, you didn't ask for hand outs, you asked for advice to solve an immediate problem. Putting money together to fix your transmission.

Painting house numbers on curbs and installing peepholes (which can be done in the evenings, btw) are legitimate ways to make money that I have personally done during financial hardships. I would rather sit at the computer and make money too but will do anything necessary to support my family. Even cleaning windows at stoplights if it came to that.

Again, please don't take my suggestions as harsh or critical. They were just a means to an end if you truly needed to find a way to come up with some money quickly on your own.

Best luck to you.

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Essence

Hotftuna, I've been asleep.

I think your priorities are a little messed up.

You know what I am hearing?

EXCUSES!

I tried, but I'm out...you have to want it, its not going to fall into your lap.

Allen

[JohnMcCabe]

Like Gail said, I wasn't trying to be insulting about funding a bus pass with day labor. Essence, you mentioned it first, not having enough money for a bus pass. By that comment, I assumed riding the bus was a possibility.

You seemed fixated on raising the $4k for the transmission, and I offered a suggestion to buy you some time.

[GreatWebSuccess]

I haven't read the entire replies yet, however I did see that you couldn't afford a website and hosting... if you still need some help I can setup a free website for you with WordPress on my servers, PM me if you'd like that offer.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

I think your priorities are a little messed up.

You know what I am hearing?

EXCUSES!

I tried, but I'm out...you have to want it, its not going to fall into your lap.

Allen

Gee Allen if you read some more of his posts it doesn't sound like excuses to me! The guy ran into a problem and asked for some advice...That's it! Get off his back dude!

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Essence,

You might not like some of the replies that have been posted, but you should definitely take all of the view points into consideration...

Even though your intention might not have been to get "donations" which I believe you when you said it wasn't...You could have read any one of the other 10,000 posts that are similar to yours. I'm pretty sure that most of the replies are identical or very similar.

As far as the hard stance that some have taken on this, I tend to agree with them to a certain extent...

If you were selling products about how to make money a couple weeks/months ago to people for money, there is NO WAY you should be making this post - UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

It is posts like this, in my opinion that give the industry a bad name. Too many times on this forum the hat has been passed because someone needs cash who has put themselves out there as someone who knows how to make money online....and obviously doesn't.

Someone has medical expenses? That is understandable as they can certainly be crippling.

Someone needs to get some cash to keep their electric on or pay their rent after trying to tell others how to make money? SCREW THAT.

With that being said...

If I had to make $4,000 from scratch in a couple of days time, I would probably sell complete custom sites with 10 or so articles on each site for $127 - $197.

I would monetize the sites around the keywords that the client specified so, it could be monetized with CPA, clickbank, or adsense.

You could easily get 10-20 customers doing this and it wouldn't cost you anything to start if you had a list or someone that would mail it for you.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by kindsvater

Count me as one of the "meanies" because this is garbage.

Not your family's financial situation - everyone can sympathize with that. I've had the sudden transmission failure and unexpected $4k bill. Not a pleasant experience at all.

I'm talking about you coming into this forum and apparently pitching bogus WSOs.

Earlier this year you ran a WSO promoting how to make a lifetime asset from nothing and said "Today, I work 3 or 4 hours each day, 4 or 5 days each week, and every week, my income creeps up."

Then you ran a WSO about how you can convert PLR into a "BOATLOAD of cash!"

There there was your WSO pimping "A foolproof method for making your first $50 by tomorrow night -- all you need is a PayPal account." and "The plan that I used to take the profits from that startup product and turn them into a stable, long-term asset."

Remember this WSO title: "YOU can succeed! Get some $$ TONIGHT, use it to take ACTION, and stop DOUBTING!!"

Here's my advice: since you're only working 3 hours a day, 4 days a week, making lifetime assets, a boatload of cash, quick money overnight, etc, - either put in a few more hours each day, or spend your free time trying to find seasonal labor with every business in the area.

If you have a foolproof plan to make $50 tonight - there you go - more than enough to cover bus money for the week.

Really, sorry to be so harsh, and maybe I'll get flamed for this post, but you come in here bragging about working only a couple hours a day, making quick and easy money from your WSOs -- with the purpose of getting other Warriors to pay you money -- and then this thread.

If you know anything about me you know my family gives to a lot of charities, and we just made some more donations recently. But at some point you need to be responsible for getting a job, any job, then building your IM empire on the side.

You know times do change for people and you seem to think that you are the only one that should be able to "fight" blah blah and not need anyones help. You don't seem to realize people lives change dig dong! Why don't you get a clue and quit your whining about what people post and go make some money or something since you are such the man and give to some of those charities you are talking about!

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by scrofford

Gee Allen if you read some more of his posts it doesn't sound like excuses to me! The guy ran into a problem and asked for some advice...That's it! Get off his back dude!

As someone that has been here for a couple of months, you would have to look back over the past years to see why some people are frustrated.

There is more than enough "advice" on this forum already without a new thread saying the same thing popping up every week.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by scrofford

Well I guess you really are a moron! You know times do change for people and you seem to think that you are the only premadonna that should be able to "fight" blah blah and not need anyones help. You don't seem to realize people lives change dig dong! Why don't you get a clue and quit your whining about what people post and go make some money or something since you are such the man and give to some of those charities you are talking about! Jerk.

Where is your ideas?

or did you just pop into the thread to run your mouth and insult people?

I see a ban in your future if you keep it up...enjoy your stay while it lasts.

[GarrieWilson]

Originally Posted by scrofford

Gee Allen if you read some more of his posts it doesn't sound like excuses to me! The guy ran into a problem and asked for some advice...That's it! Get off his back dude!

I did.

They go like:

"This has to work or my baby will be on the street"

"I need a mentor to show me how to make 1k a month every month starting next month."

"This WSO will make you residual income."

"I can't get a job because of ____"

Blah. Blah. Blah.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

As someone that has been here for a couple of months, you would have to look back over the past years to see why some people are frustrated.

There is more than enough "advice" on this forum already without a new thread saying the same thing popping up every week.

I understand that one. What gets me is if it upsets people, you don't have to ram the guy into the ground with the thinking you are so high and mighty. And I am not talking about you. I am talking about my other post. Thats all I am saying.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Where is your ideas?

or did you just pop into the thread to run your mouth and insult people?

I see a ban in your future if you keep it up...enjoy your stay while it lasts.

A ban? for what? My opinion? You talk about "understanding being harsh" to this guy and I give my opinion as to it being crap and you see a ban in my future? That is really funny.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by scrofford

I understand that one. What gets me is if it upsets people, you don't have to ram the guy into the ground with the thinking you are so high and mighty. And I am not talking about you. I am talking about my other post. Thats all I am saying.

People get pissed off when one week someone is selling a product about how to make money online and the next week start a thread saying they are broke...that makes perfect sense.

If I started a thread in here asking for help article marketing or getting started with CPA the uproar would be understandable...

It's a crappy deal when someone is selling products and putting themselves out there as someone that is actually doing it...to find out that they aren't.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Where is your ideas?

or did you just pop into the thread to run your mouth and insult people?

I didn't need to give out ideas. I am standing up for him. I didn't like what I saw as far as the posts about his problem...Most people here have been trying to help. I don't think it is helping someone to just tear them up and put them down and say "I am better than you and I would never ask for help". You should read everything before you post something like you did to me. What I said was my opinion and there is nothing wrong with that.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by scrofford

A ban? for what? My opinion? You talk about "understanding being harsh" to this guy and I give my opinion as to it being crap and you see a ban in my future? That is really funny.

It's not about your opinion..it's about you being insulting and calling people names.

Would it upset you if I called you an opinionated loud mouthed idiot? (I'm not because that would be against the rules of the forum)

But, hopefully you get what I'm saying. Disagreeing with someone is one thing, calling people jerks, idiots, morons, tards, etc...Is against the rules of the forum and usually results in a ban.

I was just trying to help you by giving you a heads up.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by scrofford

I didn't need to give out ideas. I am standing up for him. I didn't like what I saw as far as the posts about his problem...Most people here have been trying to help. I don't think it is helping someone to just tear them up and put them down and say "I am better than you and I would never ask for help". You should read everything before you post something like you did to me. What I said was my opinion and there is nothing wrong with that.

I read everything and it was the same song and dance.

last month: Buy my ebook that will teach you how to make money

this month: Help, I'm broke

It is a very familiar story line.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

It's not about your opinion..it's about you being insulting and calling people names.

Would it upset you if I called you an opinionated loud mouthed idiot? (I'm not because that would be against the rules of the forum)

But, hopefully you get what I'm saying. Disagreeing with someone is one thing, calling people jerks, idiots, morons, tards, etc...Is against the rules of the forum and usually results in a ban.

I was just trying to help you by giving you a heads up.

Ok I take back the "Jerk" part of it.

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I read everything and it was the same song and dance.

last month: Buy my ebook that will teach you how to make money

this month: Help, I'm broke

It is a very familiar story line.

Maybe it is a familiar story line but the fact of the matter is that circumstances and life situations can change in a heart beat! That is what I am getting at. Your way of making money can turn around and dry up tomorrow Jeremy. It's doubtful but it could...and you could end up being the one who needs help. This is the point I am trying to make.

[scrofford]

Ok, I apologize for the names. I have taken them off of my post. I won't do that again!

[nobodyreal]

Since you didn't specify what kind of work you want to do--want to dial for dollars, cold call/email selling? You could get 4k with 8 sales, which you could probably do in two weeks. PM me if you're interested.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by scrofford

Maybe it is a familiar story line but the fact of the matter is that circumstances and life situations can change in a heart beat! That is what I am getting at. Your way of making money can turn around and dry up tomorrow Jeremy. It's doubtful but it could...and you could end up being the one who needs help. This is the point I am trying to make.

I understand that...but, I'm of the thinking that when you know how to make money online - You know how to make money online....

Originally Posted by scrofford

Ok, I apologize for the names. I have taken them off of my post. I won't do that again!

Good deal

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I understand that...but, I'm of the thinking that when you know how to make money online - You know how to make money online....



Good deal

Yeah but if you know how to make money online and you have an unexpected problem and then you have some problems with your business, it could be an issue. Sometimes it takes time to make a comeback right? Oh well, I am done with this one...sorry I even started!

[um1001]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

If I had to make $4,000 from scratch in a couple of days time, I would probably sell complete custom sites with 10 or so articles on each site for $127 - $197.you.

Since this is almost identical to what I do (well, except I research long and hard for keywords and keep the sites for myself) - I would suggest this. It is absolutely possible ... if a numbskull like me can do it, anyone can.

Btw, I sell the lame ducks on Flippa...the things people will buy amaze me sometimes

[Essence]

I'm ashamed to have started a thread that has degenerated into such a hate-fest.


If you don't respect me because I posted a thread looking for help -- and yes, I've done so before -- that's OK with me.

I accept that I did something that is considered unworthy of a 'real man'. Hell, most of my friends and family told me that starting internet marketing in the first place wasn't worthy of a 'real man', and that I should take a job raking leaves before I tried to make a living working from home.

But I chose to discard their "well-intentioned advice", and I ended up with a passably successful article-writing WSO, and plenty of work on ODesk.

Now, I'm choosing to continue believing that I can succeed here.

I sincerely apologize to everyone who I offended by telling my story and asking for advice. However, anyone who believes that I am lazy or hypocritical hasn't been paying attention, and I would like to politely tell all of you to sod off.

If you want to continue disrespecting me, feel free to do so -- but please take it to PMs. I will happily answer to all of your charges in private.


Thank you.

[John Cabral]

Personally I have only worked 7 months in the last 24 for various reasons which I don't really care to discuss but I don't like when others make it out to be so easy to get a job.

Thats a yes or a know and depending on person's situation lots of variables can come into play.

For me 99.99% won't hire me because of my experience and degree as they feel I will take thier jobs. Other won't hire me for a 35K unless its totally outside my field of expertise as they feel I will only be there long enough till something better comes along.

Rightfully true as I have to look out for me and my son so you bet I will be jumping **** when something more in line with what I was doing or making presents itself.

Don't think there are many BK's that will hire me at min wage when there are plenty of teens around and I won't be gunning for their management job.

I don't like handouts and prefer to have help with an idea or even a mentor.

6 months ago my friend got me a job as a property manager for a low income apt complex making 35K 50% less than my previous job and I took it as hey 35K better than nothing. I was working 50-60 hr weeks and getting paid for only 40. Beacuse of the economy people starting losing their jobs and moving out. I had people moving out that were paying $315 for their apartments so you know things are bad.

They would not even let me advertise and wanted me to do more. A new district manager took over and replaced me with a friend of his so now I have not worked since April 09.

Was that fair? Did they screw me over? Hell yeah. They were getting almost 20 hours of my time for free each week and I was blamed for people moving out and not moving in.

Teach me to fish instead of giving me a fish.

[theimdude]

I have been reading this thread with great interest and from what I can see is that IM must be a waste of time as the OP of this thread that has got no money is currently selling 3 different ideas that he claims you can make it big time out there.

I also noted that it was mentioned he can't afford a domain and a website but I can buy a .info for under a buck and if I shop around hosting from hostgator for 1c so basically you can setup a website within a few hours for $1

But what really confuses me is that new people in the IM world actaully fall for WSO like this below and as they can't be true it would be nice if they vanish as they are not doing what they suppose to do. They say when you get the information from the horses mouth (not saying the Op is a horse) it must be true.

Here is the OP offering which can't work

<<== YOU can succeed! Get some $$ TONIGHT, use it to take ACTION, and stop DOUBTING!! ==>>

40 hours -- 6 weeks -- ZERO money --> Passive income for life

LAST CHANCE! $50/week for life -- zero money up front -- only $1.99!

I wish I could write as I could make a lot of money out there

Seems we learn new things everyday

[kindsvater]

Steve:

Get a grip. Anyone who has been around this forum for awhile has seen a ton of these threads, especially this time of year. If you had bothered to review some of my posts you'd know that I have previously provided some very specific ideas on how to quickly generate some cash.

The problem is - neither you - nor the original poster, apparently bothered to search the forum for those prior threads and tons of posts made on this topic.

The problem is - neither you - nor the original poster, apparently have bothered to make use of the War Room and the zillion ideas there waiting for the pickin'.

The problem is - this guy today is claiming that combined he and his wife have made less than $4k over 4 months. How much less is unknown. Might be nothing. He has $20 to his name.

The same guy who was claiming a few months ago he only worked 3 hours a day half a week, can easily make some cash overnight, and was creating "lifetime" moneymaking assets that were generating more and more every week.

My post would have been 180 degrees different if those WSOs had not been made.

No one should be making a WSO on how to make money and bragging about working a few hours a day when they've been unemployed for 2 years and living off welfare and charity.

You can disagree with me if you want - but that rubs me the wrong way.

OP - Here's some tips:

- Make use of your own WSOs. If they're outdated after just a couple months, why don't you Close them so you're not ripping off other Warriors?

- How many ideas from the War Room have you tried? How many ideas from Allen's Private Posts? Have you even read Private Posts? Where is the - I've done this and this, but it hasn't worked, now I need some quick emergency cash, any tips for what I'm doing wrong?

- This guy Scrofford on this thread, he's pimping in his sig a "simple and easy" system for automatically making thousands of dollars online every month. You may want to get it. If it works for you - great. If it doesn't work because it's a scam and you lose some money, he's apparently in your same state so you can sue him for fraud. I'll give you a legal contact if you need it. Either way - problem solved.

- Think about every free method and resource you can to make money. There are many threads about offline services (such as the no brainer of offering to barter services from the transmission repair business for a least a reduction in the repair cost). There is a good information about making use of hot stories on Google and Blogger to get quick traffic and income. If Adsense / Affiliate offers take too long to pay, find a relevant product you can drop ship with a PayPal sales link on zillions of web 2.0 properties.

- Convert a bunch of PLR like you've talked about to make a product - not a WSO - but something to sell on those many free websites.

- Get help with your fire-your-doctor website. It needs a more specific direction and detailed benefits. Maybe someone in the copywriting forum will work out a deal with you - they redo your sales page and in return you split the profits. That costs you nothing. Maybe you let all sales go to their ClickBank account and they pay you the profit split per PayPal on a daily basis - that way they have a better guarantee of getting paid and you can get some cash quicker.

... there are a million other ideas on this forum.


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[TelegramSam]

I haven't bothered to read this thread except the OP, so forgive me if this has already been said:

1) There is no excuse for not finding some kind of job in two years. Any kind of job would put food on the table and make sure your family doesn't starve. To do otherwise is very irresponsible and lazy.

2) To want/need to spend $4,000 on a new transmission is crazy. You can buy a decent second hand car for that. Also, it may be worth learning how to fix it yourself if you are that desparate.

3) Don't rely on IM to get you out of a hole in such a short time. If you knew what you were doing, or at least doing something half right, you should have made some reasonable amount of money by now. The fact that you haven't raises questions.

I am not trying to sound harsh, just realistic. You need a wake up call.

Sam