Who really makes a full time living from IM?

[dean_holland]

Hey

Yep I went full time at the end of June this year !!

THE BEST feeling ever my man... work hard and make it happen

Dean

[kindsvater]

Rockefeller, welcome aboard.

It's been a decade since I last received a paycheck, and I'll tell you how I did it.

I started out wanting the Internet to be a source of clients so that I could build a personal book of business and ultimately make partner at the law firm I was working at.

You wouldn't believe how many hours it look to learn how to hand code a table in html. But learning everything - from html to php to marketing principles, led to creating websites, which led to clients and, then ebook sales and recurring membership payments for some sites.

When the partnership offer came I turned it down and started my own firm - and took the clients.

But then I made a very important 'mind shift'. Getting clients from the Internet to an offline business is great, but it still means working. Even if the pay is several hundred an hour - it's still hourly work. No work = no income.

The shift then was setting processes in motion to create ongoing sources of income. Work once and then with little or no future effort to have income come in month after month, year after year.

Everything I do has that as a goal.

The Warrior Forum, and Allen Says, have been invaluable in that regard.

I haven't taken on any new clients in about many years, even though I could "double dip" by doing hourly work on top of the IM income that just rolls in.

My suggestion is to read everything so you get a feel for what is 'real' and what is 'crap.' There's a lot of crap, and a lot of 'gurus' will peddle anything to make a commission, so you have to watch yourself.

Anything by some teenager who 'discovered' some secret, or income claim by some 'new' person no one has apparently ever heard of, is almost always bogus.

Fake scarcity, where something like an eBook could be downloaded a million times but the 'guru' or seller limits purchases, has in my experience almost always proved to be something of little to no value. If a product has value it will get good reviews which lead to more sales over time.

On the other hand, software that can save you time can be very, very valuable.

Anyway, a couple thoughts and good luck.


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[mikemcmillan]

I quit teaching 20 years ago when I stated selling books, then ebooks. Haven't had a real job since. The secret to success: A hungry dog hunts best.

Most people wait until they have "all their ducks in order" before they quit their day job. That day usually never comes--the ducks keep bobbing and weaving. If you have something to fall back on--you probably will. When your back is against the wall and you have no choice but to succeed--you probably will.

Upon the sands of hesitation lay the bleached bones of those who waited, and while waiting, withered and died.

[AlonzoTJones]

Well said...

[mariochase]

Full Time Internet Marketer.

Making $5k+ /month and my target is $40k.

I'm actually incorporating a company only for Internet Marketing.
Projects are booming.. is interesting how things happen, after you just change your mindset.

One little tip.. just start doing stuff.. as soon as possible. Most people I see (and I did it too) wait tooo long to start doing Internet Marketing stuff.

[dmarze]

I make my living online for few years now.

[BIG Mike]

I've been making a full-time living online for my wife for about 8 years or so now

[Keith Boisvert]

Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips

People like you really piss me off.

You do not think of the pain you cause others .

Is money all that is important to you ?

Sure it is all money in the bank to you but I am the one who has to keep getting grandpa out of the freakin barn.

After the last time I don't think I can ever look at as chicken the same way again. Let's just say ...eggs are no longer on the menu at my house .

Lol. Nope. I feel like I am providing a service. My studies show the elderly like animal porn, so I am doing something positive for the community. Plus at the "homes" I have a captive audience.

Although, I do feel bad for your grandpa, I will send an advanced copy of my "Safe Animal Sex Tips for the Elderly" ebook due out soon(it has big print AND pics!!).Thanks for your support.

keith

[Danny Cutts]

I have been working online for over 10 years now full time is definiately a great feeling just gotta stay focussed and then it all falls into place!

The warriorforum can help you a lot!! but dont get too distracted!

Good luck

Danny

[jshare]

Very Good Advice Memory C.

[melanied]

I really do make a full time living at IM. Approximately half of that is from SEO/Social Media clients and half is from my websites.

[JMPruitt]

I work full time online at IM. Don't have the huge paychecks yet, some times I barely pay my bills. But I am full time,and growing my business daily.

[badfun]

Originally Posted by Rockefeller

What I wanted to ask is how many of you currently make a full time living from these methods?

Now when you say "these methods" what exactly are we talking about here? There are an awful lot of methods being discussed on this forum.

I make a full-time living online. But about 60% is still basically a j.o.b. That is, I deal with clients and have deadlines and such. At least I don't have to commute!

The extra income that comes in from I.M. is great, particularly when it reaches the passive stage and is just extra dough with no extra work. I experiment with a lot of 'these methods' that I've read about here, and some of them have worked well for me. But there is a lot of work involved with this stuff, and finding the right 'fit' is importent. Some of the stuff I've tried makes money, but doesn't interest me.

my advice: keep reading and start experimenting, but keep your day job for now.
brent

[Troy_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Keith Boisvert

Lol. Nope. I feel like I am providing a service. My studies show the elderly like animal porn, so I am doing something positive for the community. Plus at the "homes" I have a captive audience.

Although, I do feel bad for your grandpa, I will send an advanced copy of my "Safe Animal Sex Tips for the Elderly" ebook due out soon(it has big print AND pics!!).Thanks for your support.

keith

Thank you for your concern. Grandpa will be all right . The chicken....well that's kind of iffy

[tess47]

I make my living online with a combination of things - affiliate marketing, ghostwriting, SEO content writing. I can tell you it doesn't happen overnight, but when it does it is well worth the time and effort you put in.

Good luck to you

[DogScout]

either full time or live under a bridge (next to a starbucks for the wireless) as I am disabled and SSDI ain't my 'style'. Though I may move to a warmer climate if that happens.
Lol.

[ppcpimp]

have been doing this fulltime for over 8 years. don't let anyone tell you that it is easy but it is more than doable.

[Jan Mueller]

Thanks for posting your question. As a newbie I learned a lot reading your post.

[mattlaclear]

I make a full time living online. Though I'm not rich I have been able to fully support my family of eight solely from my online efforts for close to a decade now.

[mr2020]

I do.

I've had some lean years, and some kick ass years.

Treat it like a biz, pursue it like a lover.

Twenty Twenty

[AndrewCavanagh]

I do and I know many people who do too.

You do have to keep a perspective on the fact that you're probably going to have to develop some skills and experience before you make a full time income if you're starting out.

Many people think making money in internet marketing is like pushing a button and the cash rolls in without work, effort or skill.

It doesn't work that way. This is a real business that takes real skill and effort.

The rewards can be good to amazing depending on how much effort you put in and how intelligently you work.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

[DougBarger]

Fulltime online since september '06

[ArticlePrince]

I do, but it took 2 months of 50 articles a week, and the I grew my business as my income allowed. If you don't evolve with the industry and with your business, it is very hard to just keep grinding

[KatyaSenina]

Originally Posted by George Montagu Brown

not me.

Or anyone I know for that matter... this whole internet marketing thing is one giant scam.

are you serious? I thought you were the 'lucky guy' doing joint ventures with some big gurus

[geoffcruz]

I just started working full time for a couple of months now and sometimes its not all its hyped up to be. The hardest thing in IM is to keep on doing what you need to do while staring at your screen seeing no sales.

I think you need to have a certain passion for this type of business, that passion will get you through the rough times and hopefully to the good times.

But if you just stumbled into this thinking this is the easiest way to make money, and you have no interest to learn it, i bet you'll be out of the game in a month

[Paul D Brady]

Not me, that's for sure. Well not yet, anyway.

1 piece of advice - stick to doing just one or two things for a set period of time. If you subscribe to everything and jump on all the 'hot' bandwagons, you will be swamped. I was/am and am desperately trying to focus on as little 'crap' as possible.

Avoid the information overload.

@George M Brown - I hope you having a laugh with that one....(from a fellow sniper mage).

[Emi_Suzuki]

Originally Posted by tmtech

I think the problem with most people is that they invest in so many programs, but they're not making progress in their own business. I think getting your first check from clickbank, or commission junction or wherever it may be is enough to push someone over the top and make them want to take things a step further. I believe you can do this while you're working at your job. I've been hearing so many people talking about outsourcing, which i think is great; I JUST started outsourcing some of my jobs. But, I think the trick is just picking one idea, one site, and focusing ONLY on that project until you've covered all your points... then move on to the next project! Any thoughts?

I agree...I spent way too much time jumping from one product to the next, purchasing one membership after another, thinking I was "missing out" by not jumping on the latest shiny product. I think in IM should stick with one system, master the basics and then move on.

[sdentrepreneur]

Have been full time Internet Marketer since 2007. The key to success is learning Internet Marketing at a very high level, pretend like you are in a Masters Program. You also need a product that is in high demand, such as IM Education.

[JackPowers]

I have been at it seriously for 6 months and make a full time living from writing SEO articles, services and affiliate marketing. Not as much as I'd like, but I have big plans and expectations for the new year.

If you have any specific IT skills, such as webdesign or programming, you may find it easier to start out by offering a service while you work on your own projects.

It's not really that hard to make a full time living online, but as I learned from the good people here, you really need to approach this as a business.

That means don't look for the magic bullet or quick money, but do the same research and business planning for every project as you would in a real business.

[Tron2k]

Full time,even dropped my kickass former job!

[vitto]

I've been doing IM part-time for a year before My wife and I went full-time 4 months ago. We work from home and just took on a part-time employee

We make a nice income from a couple membership sites and affiliates.
I am also a Internet Marketing consultant/trainer to offline businesses which has some pay days.

I dont have a lambo in the garage yet, but I can honestly say that I am living my dream, because I have lots of time to spend with my family, I can feed my kids, pay bills ontime and still have money left over without having to beg or borrow.
However I sometimes put in alot of hours of work (learning and trying new methods) but it beats what I was doing before.

Take it from a newbie, there can be times when you may get fustrated from imformation overload, but stay focused do your research, pick a product, study it and take massive action.

[ExpertWriter]

Wow,, I have so much to learn. I'm glad that there are people like you out here that help someone like me (newbie), learn the ropes. I hope that I can learn to grow into a full time position as well. Thanks so much to everyone who leave's great advice!

- Cindy

[czilbersher]

Originally Posted by Keith Boisvert

I make my living 90% online.

Who knew selling animal porn to the elderly was so lucrative!!!


Keith

LOL. So YOU'RE my competition!

[rvrabel2002]

alright animal porn is not the way to go....seriously! :0)

[AlexanderFaust]

I'm not 100% online yet, but that's my 2010 goal. Definitely by the end of summer I will get there!

[webdesk]

Double shifts on the internet since October... still haven't found the right combination... actual earnings revealed here: 7.3 cents per hour

But I am not giving up, it's a "do or die" situation.

[tweetzon]

i just started online marketing and it will be a journey for me to success my aim is to be a millionaire in the age of 20. sounds too good to be true , but as long as i do not give up i dont see why i cant do that right warriors? and of course guides from you guys! haha

[Get Inspired Today]

A living for some is 35k a year, for others it is 10 times that .

[Ninja_Warrior]

Originally Posted by JennSpencerIM

Full time since June this year which isn't too bad considering I just found out how to internet market in December 08! Full time here meaning no JOBs for me and my husband...but we're making much more than quadruple what we used to make in a executive level jobs. Again, this is still our first year, but the monthly income keeps expanding so its looking pretty good!

Wow ......... Are you willing to share with fellow warriors what are the ways and products you sell to achieve the internet lifestyle ........ do what you like and anytime you like

[Ninja_Warrior]

Originally Posted by DougBarger

Fulltime online since september '06

Are you willing to share with fellow warriors what are the ways to attain your level of internet full time status ?

[Ninja_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Chris Stigson

Lol... I'm full-time, but it takes a GOOD LONG WHILE before you get to that point if you don't follow the right methods. You can work equally hard on 2 websites, and one makes you thousands, while the other makes exactly $10 per month.

I've seen both sides of the coin and wish to never see people have to go through all the struggle. Now I have a system that works for me, and I'm sticking to it.. expanding etc..

New twists on old fundamental ideas.

- Chris

Care to share with fellow warriors what are the new system to attain your level of internet full time lifestyle ?


Cheers

[Ninja_Warrior]

Originally Posted by mariochase

Full Time Internet Marketer.

Making $5k+ /month and my target is $40k.

I'm actually incorporating a company only for Internet Marketing.
Projects are booming.. is interesting how things happen, after you just change your mindset.

One little tip.. just start doing stuff.. as soon as possible. Most people I see (and I did it too) wait tooo long to start doing Internet Marketing stuff.

Care to share with fellow warriors what are the mindset you mention to change to attain your level of internet full time lifestyle ?

[JonathanBoettcher]

Yep, been online for number of years now... full time for 3.

[orrug2k]

I know of a place where 600 hubpages are making $250 a month. Does that sound like a good deal..LOL I think the only way any of this is worth a darn is if it scams someone desperate to earn a living, makes grandpa happy watching cows go at it , or if you take it locally to people that need leads for basic products, Thats where im going with it. Out ranking local businesses then selling them the customers back. Plumbers dont rank hi, but people search for it locally...

[Syndicator]

This is a loaded question and is relative to each individual.

Let me explain...

Some people can ''make a full time living" and earn $50K per year.

Some people can "make a full time living" and make $100K per year.

It all depends on your lifestyle situation, income needs and lifestyle expectations. You may be working at Maccas (Mc Donalds) and living in a share house with a few mates or waking up to your own private beaches and following the sun around the world hopping from home to home.

You have to set yourself some goals to meet these variables and whilst I personally do not yet "make a full time living online" today my goal is to make significantly more than $200Kp/a as a starting point to maintain a status quo.

Full time is also another term open to interpretation. If you are working 60-80 hours per week in a day job, would you expect to have to work 60 in IM to achieve the same after tax income level?

Would you be prepared to?
Is 80hrs p/w full time or could 20hrs p/w in IM be considered full time?
What would you do with the rest of the week if you were not working?

The internet marketing lifestyle that is promoted by Gurus as the end goal may not be yours. Understand where you want to be and it will be easier to get there, full time or not!

[simonheng82]

i am not in full time yet, but my goal this year is to be able to buy a Mazda3 from the online earning.

Simon

[Ninja_Warrior]

I am determine and plan to take one step at a time , to set a target to make $5000 per month first then gradually to make more money to attain the full time internet lifestyle the successful internet gurus have acheived.

[Sara Young]

I'll add that I earn a full time living doing affiliate marketing.

In the past few months I've started to create my own products as well.

My husband has a business with staff mostly doing client work and selling his own products.

[Online Bliss]

Not full time with Internet Marketing but the point is
There is enough income generated along with my Recording studio
(Jingles and voice-overs mostly) that I can remain Self Employed.
Al I need is a good Health Benifit package.
That is my next goal when I can increase my IM income.
Now that is as honest of an answer I can give.

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

As a U.S. Army officer, I'm pretty much 'bound' to that profession. I love it, and I also love what I do online. I don't earn nearly what some here do, but I have made of my own smaller successes. Right now, my earnings from my online endeavors just fluctuate so much that they aren't quit 'reliable' enough to do it full-time, even if I could. I can have several hundred dollar days, but flanked by $20/days....it's a fun thing to do 'on the side', at least for now.

With an impending deployment overseas again, I'm anticipating having little to no internet access....so, it just really can't be a full time thing, even if I had wanted it to be.