"Your article links to a page that does not contain enough informative content"

Steven Carl Kelly

14 years ago

I don't have any articles at EZA, but I'm glad to see them attempting to clean up their act.

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onyxgem

14 years ago

Umm excuse me. My article provides very useful content. Also, my site is a real site with tons of content. That particular page happens to have one paragraph.

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

I don't have any articles at EZA, but I'm glad to see them attempting to clean up their act.

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John Romaine 14 years ago

Originally Posted by onyxgem

My article .....one paragraph.

Since when is one paragraph, an "article?"
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- onyxgem 14 years ago
  
  What are you talking about?
  
  I have an article on Ezine. The landing page has one paragraph plus a video link.
  
  Originally Posted by ramone_johnny
  
  Since when is one paragraph, an "article?"
  
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  John Romaine 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by onyxgem
  
  What are you talking about?
  
  I have an article on Ezine. The landing page has one paragraph plus a video link.
  
  My apologies dude, I misread the post.
  
  I can understand your frustrations, and sympathize to an extent, but at the end of the day I guess what you have in place must in some way or form, violate EZA terms of service.
  
  Out of interest, and I know Ive seen a fair bit of mention on this lately here on WF, have they updated the TOS?
  
  Perhaps this is the new EZA slap?
  
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  Steven Fullman 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ramone_johnny
  
  Out of interest, and I know Ive seen a fair bit of mention on this lately here on WF, have they updated the TOS?
  
  Perhaps this is the new EZA slap?
  
  Post #17 has (what I can see as the relevant clauses of the) TOS from about 15 minutes ago...
  
  No point beating a dead horse though. I just can't stand the holier than thou, sanctimonious "protecting our visitors" stuff. Yeah? Like 95% of their visitors give a crap about EZA.
  
  I wouldn't be surprised if 95% of their visitors have never even heard of EZA before they clicked that big ole link in the Google SERPS.
  
  Talking of Google, I wonder if EZA are as discerning about the Adsense ads that are served up in your articles? I wonder if they are vetted to ensure they only contain links to "useful" content, too. :rolleyes:
  
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  onyxgem 14 years ago
  
  I can redirect to the merchant page, but now I am on their radar.
  
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  Allen Graves 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by onyxgem
  
  I can redirect to the merchant page, but now I am on their radar.
  
  Not to sound totally positive, but tis is a great chance for you to shine.
  
  Kiss their ass and play by their rules while they're watching and you'll be off that radar and into the "exceptional" group in no time.
  
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bretski

14 years ago

Originally Posted by onyxgem

Umm excuse me. My article provides very useful content. Also, my site is a real site with tons of content. That particular page happens to have one paragraph.

Why not link back to the main part of your site where the tons of content is then?

I had this happen to me and I can see EZA's point of view. If all they have is a bunch of weak 250 work articles linking back to thin landing pages it won't be long before people say to themselves "nah...not reading that article on EZA. It is probably just a short article by someone that really just wants me to buy something."

I link my resource box back to my blog where I have hundreds of articles. Maybe try that?

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by onyxgem

For the record, I am not complaining about Ezine per se. Ezine sends me more traffic than any of the article directories.

I am mostly complaining about this particular rejection.

One can say Ezine is becoming more diligent, but one can also say it is becoming more arbitrary.

I'll get this out of the way first...

What, besides perhaps a little sympathy, do you expect to gain from complaining here? You might get a little more traction dealing directly with EZA.

On to 'Ezine becoming more arbitrary'...

It's quite possible the exact opposite is happening. They set up a rule to help editors, some of them quite new at their jobs, weed out the junk (and without the facts, I'm not saying your page was junk). In the past, they may have allowed their editors more leeway to make arbitrary decisions in favor of authors. With more volume and more editors, they apply the rules without spending the time to exercise individual discretion.

Seems to me, they are being less arbitrary. Unless, of course, we both missed the meeting where they agreed on a list of WF members to dump on...:rolleyes:

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Allen Graves 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Unless, of course, we both missed the meeting where they agreed on a list of WF members to dump on...:rolleyes:

I was there - I remember them saying your name too, John.

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onyxgem

14 years ago

Okay. Fair enough.

What I wanted to gain was some insight into whether my article was reviewed by an overzealous editor or whether this is standard policy. I also wanted to know if anyone had received that error message. It is the first time I have received that message and I have been posting on Ezine for 2.5 years.

Thanks all of you who responded with tips.

I also emailed Ezine before I posted explaining that I had made a minor change and that the article was posted with no problem before. If they reply with the same answer, I will have to change my landing page.

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I'll get this out of the way first...

What, besides perhaps a little sympathy, do you expect to gain from complaining here? You might get a little more traction dealing directly with EZA.

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Art Turner

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

EZA recently announced openly that they're rejecting marketing-oriented articles which are derivative in content and have a resource-box link to a page which they consider is low on informative content.

The problem is, they haven't changed their TOS or editorial guidelines.

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mojojuju 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

I don't have any articles at EZA, but I'm glad to see them attempting to clean up their act.

I agree.

I don't submit articles to EZA, but from time to time, I'll republish articles from EZA on my own web sites. It's getting more difficult to find good articles on EZA to publish as most articles there are rubbish. If I do find a good article worth republishing, the problem that often comes up is that the author's link at the end of the article links to a page with zero value.

I'm interested to see what effect EZA's housecleaning of their site will have on the quality of their content, because they've become somewhat of a spam farm.
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- onyxgem 14 years ago
  
  Hail to the Goddess of Justice!
  
  My article disappeared from the "problem article" queue.
  
  Ezine had a change of heart apparently and my article is now live again! Hello profit!
  
  Thanks everyone.
  
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Steven Fullman

14 years ago

Since when is it any business of EZA how much "useful" content YOUR OWN website contains?

And shouldn't "useful" be decided by YOUR audience, rather than an EZA editor?

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Steven Carl Kelly

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Since when is it any business of EZA how much "useful" content YOUR OWN website contains?

Since EZA is allowing you to post your links on their site.

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Kay King 14 years ago

Whenever you go back and edit an article it has to be re-approved. That is clearly stated when you edit an article.

If you only changed one sentence - and didn't change a link or anything else, you should send a polite message to EZA reporting when the article was originally approved and explaining the edit was to remove a duplicated sentence. That may be enough for another editor to approve the article.

This problem happens because so many people thought it was a good trick to submit articles and then after approval go back and change the link in the resource box and/or add an affiliate link into the body of the article.

There is a pattern at EZA and Google and almost anywhere else you look - there are those who think they are smart enough to skirt the rules and find a way around terms of use and this results in those sites closing the loopholes and removing the ability to "game them". Same happens on this forum for that matter.

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Steven Fullman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

Since EZA is allowing you to post your links on their site.

...which is the primary incentive for their authors to publish there in the first place.

Mutually beneficial, isn't it?

All I'm saying is, if the article sucks, don't publish it. If the article is OK, let the guy link to wherever he chooses.

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Steven Carl Kelly

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

...which is the primary incentive for their authors to publish there in the first place.

Mutually beneficial, isn't it?

All I'm saying is, if the article sucks, don't publish it. If the article is OK, let the guy link to wherever he chooses.

Well, I certainly cannot agree with this line of thinking at all.

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Steven Fullman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

Well, I certainly cannot agree with this line of thinking at all.

Without revealing which part of my reply you disagree with, I'll assume you disagree completely.

From EZA:

Please put your active links in the resource box below the article body. The article BODY is your "GIVE" and the RESOURCE BOX is your "TAKE."

There's the "mutual benefit" I mentioned in my previous post.

We will not accept articles with links (in the Article Body or Resource Box) to adult-oriented websites, including but not limited to websites that include pornography, adult-oriented sexual content.

Presuming the OP is not running an adult site (which is not the reason EZA rejected the article)...

We do not allow links to websites that are under construction. Websites must be active and have content in order for you to link to them from your article. We will reject your article if it contains a link of this nature.

The OP has an "active" website, with video as it's core content.

But that's still not the reason EZA rejected his article.

They said he didn't have "enough" informative content.

I can't see any measure of quantity defined in EZA's terms of service.

Having said that, it's their site, they can do whatever they please. I'm not that silly to think otherwise.

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Steven Carl Kelly 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Having said that, it's their site, they can do whatever they please.

We now agree. Finally.
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Jill Carpenter

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Since when is it any business of EZA how much "useful" content YOUR OWN website contains?

And shouldn't "useful" be decided by YOUR audience, rather than an EZA editor?

Steve

Well, to be fair to them this is something I understood to be a condition they apply up front. One needs to have a real looking site in place.

Looks like in your revisions, you are being subjected to their cleaning process. I don't know if they have someone dedicated to reviewing old accounts or articles that have been up for some time, but if they do your days may have been numbered on that article and it was probably better you revised it.

Perhaps consider adding a transcription of the video below the link to the video with the message of "For those who are unable to watch the video, please read on" or something.

Can you put the video on the page with the paragraph? Is there a specific reason the user needs to click to go elsewhere to watch the video?

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onyxgem

14 years ago

The transcription idea is a great idea. Thank you.

I can, of course, add more to the landing page. I am just surprised that they do this.

Interestingly, it is okay to redirect to what is obviously a merchant page, yet one can't put affiliate links directly into an article. If they are that picky, why don't they stop the redirects?

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Well, to be fair to them this is something I understood to be a condition they apply up front. One needs to have a real looking site in place.

Looks like in your revisions, you are being subjected to their cleaning process. I don't know if they have someone dedicated to reviewing old accounts or articles that have been up for some time, but if they do your days may have been numbered on that article and it was probably better you revised it.

Perhaps consider adding a transcription of the video below the link to the video with the message of "For those who are unable to watch the video, please read on" or something.

Can you put the video on the page with the paragraph? Is there a specific reason the user needs to click to go elsewhere to watch the video?

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Allen Graves

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Since when is it any business of EZA how much "useful" content YOUR OWN website contains?

And shouldn't "useful" be decided by YOUR audience, rather than an EZA editor?

Steve

Hi Steve,

They are worried about the pages they are linking to...that's all. They're not really making judgements on landing pages, they are simply looking to see if it contains enough info to pass their standards.

And to the OP, they are not looking for a sales page either - they are looking for information on the topic...and more than 1 paragraph, for sure.

If you are going to link to another page from your site these days, you'd better make damn sure it is not on any kind of Google "hit list" because it will most likely reflect on your site too.

Since they link out to so many millions of web pages, I believe they are just trying to stop linking to any potential bad ones.

It's not their fault, it is just another case of some bad candy spoiling the pinata!

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Steven Fullman

14 years ago

Hi Allen,

I totally respect your views on this, mate, since you have skin in the game running your own article site.

Thanks for clearing that up for me

Steve

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Hi Steve,

They are worried about the pages they are linking to...that's all. They're not really making judgements on landing pages, they are simply looking to see if it contains enough info to pass their standards.

And to the OP, they are not looking for a sales page either - they are looking for information on the topic...and more than 1 paragraph, for sure.

If you are going to link to another page from your site these days, you'd better make damn sure it is not on any kind of Google "hit list" because it will most likely reflect on your site too.

Since they link out to so many millions of web pages, I believe they are just trying to stop linking to any potential bad ones.

It's not their fault, it is just another case of some bad candy spoiling the pinata!

Allen

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Allen Graves

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Hi Allen,

I totally respect your views on this, mate, since you have skin in the game running your own article site.

Thanks for clearing that up for me

Steve

Thanks Steve,

But I do get annoyed too sometimes with the attitudes from the editors.

I believe in 100% kicka$$ customer service. And while sometimes you have to take a stance, you can doing it with a little kindness and understanding - instead of the whole HTT mantra.

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RGallowitz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Since when is it any business of EZA how much "useful" content YOUR OWN website contains?

And shouldn't "useful" be decided by YOUR audience, rather than an EZA editor?

Steve

I agree 100% with steve.

If someone writes an awesome piece of content for my blog I would provide him with a credit and he can link to anything he wants that are relevant to the article.

The same goes for EZA. I find it hard to accept that a online entrepreneur can't link to say a "squeeze page" even after EZA published a good article. They are monopolizing.

What's next....nofollow links? :rolleyes:

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John Romaine

14 years ago

I have to agree with Steven here. The Carl Kelly one

Theres so much rubbish posted on EZA at the moment. Eventually something had to give, and if that means them working towards improving quality of content then Im all for it.

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netmarketer21

14 years ago

I have had this trouble before also. You probably just got a picky editor in a bad mood or something. I think that as long as you are providing quality, unique content for your article, there should be no reason for them rejecting it because of your landing page. I would try emailing them. Maybe it can be worked out. Its worth a try especially if it was a high click through article.

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garyv

14 years ago

I don't formally endorse this method, so don't yell at me for putting it out here. But some people use the "bait and switch" method. It's used alot in advertising and article writing venues. This is where you put up a landing page that they want to see, and then once it's reviewed and accepted, you change the landing page to one that converts for you.

And if you want to be technical about it, you can figure out the ip address of the editors. And then put up a script that shows the editor one landing page, while everyone else sees another.

Again - even though I'm not running for office, I don't formally approve of this message.

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onyxgem 14 years ago

Ha ha. Wish I had he energy for all that. LOL.
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onyxgem 14 years ago

For the record, I am not complaining about Ezine per se. Ezine sends me more traffic than any of the article directories.

I am mostly complaining about this particular rejection.

One can say Ezine is becoming more diligent, but one can also say I is becoming more arbitrary.
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onyxgem 14 years ago

For the record, I am not complaining about Ezine per se. Ezine sends me more traffic than any of the article directories.

I am mostly complaining about this particular rejection.

One can say Ezine is becoming more diligent, but one can also say it is becoming more arbitrary.
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- Steven Carl Kelly 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by onyxgem
  
  One can say Ezine is becoming more diligent, but one can also say it is becoming more arbitrary.
  
  It doesn't really seem arbitrary at all to me, but maybe I'm just too simple.
  
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dmarze

14 years ago

I never had problem with ezinearticles. All you have to do is read their policy and all of your articles will doing well.

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