Just had an email from Ezine Articles...

[jazbo]

...telling me that my submitted article has been rejected because "Google does not approve of it". My articles topic...

"Do linkwheels work?"

Well that was well worth the TEN DAY WAIT.

So a decision from their moderating "experts" who obviously did not read the article, but who are evidently under instructions to not upset Google who have put the **** up them about SERPs.

I have asked if they will make such decisions about the hundreds of articles about alternative medicine that go against not only medical opinion but common sense in general. I am not hopeful of a reply as I think they are more concerned about their SERPs than peoples lives. So don't you dare write about something Google might object to, I suggest writing about advice that may kill someone as that will get published.

[M Thompson]

Originally Posted by jazbo

...telling me that my submitted article has been rejected because "Google does not approve of it". My articles topic...

"Do linkwheels work?"

Well that was well worth the TEN DAY WAIT.

So a decision from their moderating "experts" who obviously did not read the article, but who are evidently under instructions to not upset Google who have put the **** up them about SERPs.

I have asked if they will make such decisions about the hundreds of articles about alternative medicine that go against not only medical opinion but common sense in general. I am not hopeful of a reply as I think they are more concerned about their SERPs than peoples lives. So don't you dare write about something Google might object to, I suggest writing about advice that may kill someone as that will get published.

I've had some stupid decisions from editors in the past and if you get hold of chris and explain you point of view he will often make sure your article goes through

Here goes a better idea - Use another article directory ...

Why people start post here and complain about EZA is seriously way beyond me.. Some of you complain like you pay for the service or something or like EZA owes you something..

Get real... It is Chris' site to do with and run as he chooses to do.. If you do not like it then there are 1,000's of others sites online...

James

[um1001]

OK here is a foolproof way to get your articles approved most of the time (unless you're submitting crap...you're not submitting crap are you?):

Pay for it.

[Sirago]

I hear a lot of complaining about EZA...

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

The name calling in your post above is uncalled for. James may have disagreed with you but he did not stoop to name calling.

Tina

Maybe not, but he has a habit of talking to people as if they were morons.

Jazbo, the best thing you can do with EZA is to post your good stuff to directories that still remember that it is affiliates such as your self that built them into an authority in many niches and give EZA what is left.

How does EZA know what Google approves of? lol

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Jazbo, you can see from a quick glance at EZA that their main monetization model is Adsense so it rather makes sense that they don't want to include information that goes against what Google approves.

The name calling in your post above is uncalled for. James may have disagreed with you but he did not stoop to name calling.

Tina

It's ok Tina.. I tend to ignore such remarks because in the long run those that stoop that low end up with nothing or out of business..

Appreciate your comments though, thanks..

James

[Zeus66]

Tina nailed it. Their monetization is built on Adsense clicks. The content you put there has to conform to the rules Google imposes. If you were the owner of EZA, getting a LOT of income from one source, think you'd be very careful to play by their rules? Um, yeah, you would.

[Voon]

I remember I have an article that faced the similar situation.

This is what I do basically:
- Thank them for their reply.
- Explain how <party> works, how their terms/conditions/policies etc.
- Explain and elaborate as much as possible the purpose of <party>, how your <topic> is comply with their terms and not violates it
- Contrary, <party> is encourage to blah blah blah, which is good for having <topic>
- Point them to the exact URL of the terms(or if it even exist?) and tell them it didn't state what or how <topic> violates it
- Conclude your <topic> is inline with the purpose of <party>.
- Thank them again and look forward to be listed on their site.
- Note: Talk to them calm and nicely.

Then the next thing I know my article was listed there with 60k+ views till now.

Not sure it will work for you but good luck.

[Black Hat Cat]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Here goes a better idea - Use another article directory ...

Why people start post here and complain about EZA is seriously way beyond me..

James

I agree. What do you people think this is, a forum or something?

[Black Hat Cat]

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Jazbo, you can see from a quick glance at EZA that their main monetization model is Adsense so it rather makes sense that they don't want to include information that goes against what Google approves.



Tina

When did Google forbid talking about linkwheels?

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

I agree. What do you people think this is, a forum or something?

Yeah support forums are great, ain't they - EzineArticles - Authors & Writers Forum - EzineArticles.com

Go over there and tell Chris how to run his business and while you're at it don't use some pen name, use your real name as registered with eza..

James

[MisterMunch]

Their MUST NOT list only mention that you can not mention AdSense (it is googles rules)

[J smith]

Just another reminder to diversify and not depend on one source for anything, be it income or place to post articles to.

You can resubmit your article and hope that a different editor let's it through (happens fairly often) you can try to change title to something else that doesn't include the phrase "link wheels" and lastly you can change the body of the article to be less about link wheels and more about the power of web 2.0 properties and backlinks.

And of course you can look for other directories to submit. EA might be the biggest but there are others out there that can send almost as much traffic as ea (and combined send a lot more)

[Kay King]

Think about it.

Link wheels are a method used in an attempt to control SE ranking. Gee, I wonder why google wouldn't be fond of the topic?

EZA is popular because articles in EZA rank well - and they make money through adsense. Why would anyone be shocked that they would refuse to publish articles on topics about "how to fool google"?

[A Bary]

Well, once I was really pissed off with EZA as of getting my account suspended for the accuse of duplicate content..

The case was, I submitted an article that happened to be submitted before to another directory by a submitting service on my behalf, but the problem is, the guy submitted it under his author name, they suspected me to steal the article, though if they look at the resource box of this article on the other directory, they will find the links pointing to my site that I usually link to from my EZA article, which logically means the article is mine (no one else will submit the article and generously point to my site in his resource box)..

I was really angry for getting my account suspended, and decided to send them an agressive email with all the big F words about how amateur and silly their moderators are...

But with a little thinking, I found this useless, to lose such a big asset for a moment of anger...

I took the other direction, sent them a polite email and explained as much as I could about the situation..

To my surprise, within less than 30 minutes, I received a very nice reply from them, telling me that it's against their guidelines to submit an article under my name to their directory when it has been submitted under another name some where else, even if it's mine...

Though, they was convinced with my defense, and the suspension removed immediately, with no harm...

Primarily, it was my fault, and we are all guilty of that, we don't give ourselves a chance to read the TOS of a site like EZA, despite the fact that it's a critical factor in our relation with them, and then we come and complain about their bad irrational attitude.
No offense towards the OP, I myself do this, most of us do that, and we can really save ourselves the hassle by doing our little homework..

If they are that bad, they could totally ignore my situation and just shut my basic plus, free account, on the contrary, they listened and this is a big point in their advantage.

Don't blame sites for trying to fight for their quality and reputation.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by jazbo

So a decision from their moderating "experts" who obviously did not read the article

Why is it "obvious" that they didn't read it?

Originally Posted by jazbo

I have asked if they will make such decisions about the hundreds of articles about alternative medicine that go against not only medical opinion but common sense in general.

Why should they? They're not dependent for their business's survival on the goodwill of the pharmaceutical industry, are they?

It seems to me that you're saying you dislike their editorial policies, really? I don't doubt that these policies are determined for their own self-interest (at least, if I were running their business, that's certainly how I'd decide them. Wouldn't you?).

Why not just submit it elsewhere instead? They're not the only game in town, you know? But it's hardly a surprise, especially at the moment, that they're very conscious of their dependence on Google?

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It seems to me that you're saying you dislike their editorial policies, really? I don't doubt that these policies are determined for their own self-interest (at least, if I were running their business, that's certainly how I'd decide them. Wouldn't you?).

Why not just submit it elsewhere instead? They're not the only game in town, you know? But it's hardly a surprise, especially at the moment, that they're very conscious of their dependence on Google?

You're right Alexa.. Which was my point to begin with, those 3 people can attack me on this thread all they want but if it was their business they would have a different opinion...

People need to get real and stop crying ... "Oh they did not approve my article, how dare they do that to me because I am the one that made their business" ... LOL Get Real! EZA might have become popular because of people talking about them saying you must post to the site but I am sorry Chris built his business with a great deal of hard work.

James

[zachary0611]

Well google will ban you for almost anything so i can understand why they are paranoid

[Steven Fullman]

Originally Posted by goldmind123

Don't blame sites for trying to fight for their quality and reputation.

I hope you don't mind me saying, but I'm pretty sure quality and reputation aren't the major motivators here.

Google threatening to can their Adsense income might come closer.

How else can you explain the "Google Doesn't Approve Of Your Article" B.S. reason for rejecting the OP's' article?

Quality and reputation my arse.

Steve

[Steven Fullman]

...having said that, James always talks a lot of sense as well.

[TomJonsRocks]

Hi Jazbo,
I share your pain. So many times after a 7-10 day wait I’ll get notification from EZA that an article didn’t make the cut. Always in my opinion it is a bull.$hit reason. Still, you’ve got to love the traffic.
May I suggest posting your article in Hub Pages and Squidoo. And as you probably know, GoArticles and I-Snare are somewhat more laid back. Both of these sites can also produce fairly high quality traffic.
Finally, while I share your pessimism about resolving the issue through an editor, you may be able to salvage the article by a simple re-write. Is Google troubled by the content, or merely a statement that is made. I know it feels like censorship, but maybe your personal blog or website is a more appropriate place to speak from the heart.
Why not use Ezine Articles for what it is - A good place to generate targeted traffic!

[JohnMcCabe]

Jazbo, while (from what you posted), the explanation might have been a little sparse, it's a legitimate reason for a publisher in the Adsense program to refuse an article contribution.

At the heart of it, EZA is simply a web site that publishes content and monetizes that content with Adsense. Except for the scale, and to some extent the source of that content, they're no different than the one-man band running a basket-weaving blog.

Putting an article about, essentially, how to manipulate Google's results on a page surrounded by Google ads just doesn't make much sense, does it?

Suppose EZA was monetized with Clickbank ads, and you submitted an article about how to buy stuff with your own account to give yourself a discount. Would you expect that to be accepted?

Or if they monetized with eBay ads...and you submitted an article on how to manipulate feedback. Would you expect them to accept that?

In this particular instance, I think your best bet is to pull the article and submit it to directories which don't rely on Google for their income.

[AceHazel]

Got no problems yet with EZA, hope not in the future.

Try on the other article directories. There's a lot.

[james09]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Here goes a better idea - Use another article directory ...

Why people start post here and complain about EZA is seriously way beyond me.. Some of you complain like you pay for the service or something or like EZA owes you something..

Get real... It is Chris' site to do with and run as he chooses to do.. If you do not like it then there are 1,000's of others sites online...

James

I don't understand Why the forum hasn't deleted you yet! Everytime I view a thread you're smart remarking people. Just as quick as you got your money God will sure take it away with that kind of acting.

My 0.02 For Rich"Jerks"Net

Originally Posted by james09

I don't understand Why the forum hasn't deleted you yet! Everytime I view a thread you're smart remarking people. Just as quick as you got your money God will sure take it away with that kind of acting.

My 0.02 For Rich"Jerks"Net

Obviously you have no idea how many people I have actually helped.. Goes to show how much a newbies pays attention before attacking a well respected forum member.

What I posted was exactly the same as a few others posted.. I just did not hold any punches, it's called tough love..

But hey welcome to the forum, I hope you contribute here and not go around attacking respectable members...

James

[Kay King]

So telling the truth about a subject isn't your "thing"? Not all answers to questions here will be fluffy and sweet - sometimes the only answer is "you messed up" or "you're wrong".

Just because someone posts a rant doesn't mean everyone jumps in to agree - sometimes they just point out the obvious.

How many articles have you submitted to EZA? How many have been accepted? Have you read their terms of service?

kay

Originally Posted by adewolefestus

I wonder wat could be wrong with these editors. They rejected 2 of my articles saying I have spelling error and i try all my best but couldnt locate where the error is.

you need a very good english degree b4 u work with eza

Welcome to the forums, please review the rules .. You are not allowed affiliate links in your sig ...

James

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by adewolefestus

I wonder wat could be wrong with these editors. They rejected 2 of my articles saying I have spelling error and i try all my best but couldnt locate where the error is.

you need a very good english degree b4 u work with eza

That is one of the biggest drawbacks to using EZA in my opinion - their lack of personal support. Instead they send out very impersonal, non-detailed generic emails. If I could change 3 things about EZA, that would be one of them.

Allen

[vhargis]

I have no problem getting articles published in ezinearticles...but on occasion I try and publish an article they don't like....lol

linkwheels is one

and

content spinning is another

Thats just the way the ball bounces some times...

We publish to many other sites so no biggy

Take what the market gives you

v

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by Kay King

Think about it.

Link wheels are a method used in an attempt to control SE ranking. Gee, I wonder why google wouldn't be fond of the topic?

EZA is popular because articles in EZA rank well - and they make money through adsense. Why would anyone be shocked that they would refuse to publish articles on topics about "how to fool google"?

I see plenty of articles on EZA about SEO - They have a whole category for it.

[pcpupil]

Originally Posted by adewolefestus

I wonder wat could be wrong with these editors. They rejected 2 of my articles saying I have spelling error and i try all my best but couldnt locate where the error is.

you need a very good english degree b4 u work with eza

First of all welcome to the forum.Second,wat [look at your post].You didnt catch this either.But also you could use the spell checker at the end of the submission form.

As for a couple of the other answers.I submitted 2 identical articles.1 to Eza,and one to Goarts.
The one at goarticles ranked on the first page of google for my keyword above the same article at eza.
Another 1 of my articles at [goarts] beatout one of my keywords for a first page keyword at eza.My goarts was number 3,the other authors keyword,same as mine,on eza,was number 4.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

I see so many posts on here from people saying "if you don't like the subject - Don't reply"

This guy got his article declined that has to do with SEO - In case people have not noticed, EZA has several thousand other articles on SEO... This is another case of EZA having editors that don't know their own rules for acceptable content and guidelines.

I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one that has noticed that, right?

So, a guy comes in that joined in October of 09...Less than a month ago wanting to vent/get more info on a situation that he's run into, and what happens?

He pretty much gets called a moron and told to run along...That's BS.

Instead of someone just saying - Hey, they are making some changes and stuff has been a little off he gets told to "get real" and treated like he is some kind of idiot for expecting that the article he submitted would be approved when thousands of others just like it have been.

The nerve of him - Someone drag him to off-topic and kick the crap out of him.

I'm glad I wasn't treated like that when I first joined because I'm pretty sure my responses would have gotten me banned.

[Kay King]

Yes, they do - about SEO. That's not the same in google's view perhaps as they are clear about what they consider good seo.

They probably wouldn't like articles about buying links or some backlink tactics sold now either. And EZA doesn't accept list building articles or articles about using PLR.

The point remains - when you own the site you make the rules. When you dislike the rules or think they are unfair, you don't use that site.

kay

EDIT: Just checked EZA myself - not one link wheel article there that I could find.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by Kay King

Yes, they do - about SEO. That's not the same in google's view perhaps as they are clear about what they consider good seo.

They probably wouldn't like articles about buying links or some backlink tactics sold now either. And EZA doesn't accept list building articles or articles about using PLR.

The point remains - when you own the site you make the rules. When you dislike the rules or think they are unfair, you don't use that site.

kay

Yeah, you would think THOSE kinds of articles wouldn't be allowed right?

Web Marketing Strategy #5 - Choose the Most Effective Backlinks to Rank on Page One of Google

I guess buying links is better than link wheels?

That's not the point though...

The point at least for me is that EZA is being arbitrary and that their editors are uneducated about what their own policies are.

I bed if 10 people tomorrow submitted articles about link wheels 5 would be approved and 5 not.

Their site - their rules? Absolutely! But, that doesn't mean that we can't call them clowns for not knowing what their rules are.

That wasn't really the point either

This part isn't aimed at you Kay

My point is that a NEW member had a question/concern and was treated like a jerk from some people.

Not everyone knows the answer to every question or has been here long enough to know what's what...

So, as members if we run across a question that we are tired answering or a topic that we are tired of seeing, what should we do?

Be a jerk?

Or move onto the next topic?

The answer really isn't all that difficult to me.

Unfortunately, most of the time we see:

OMG!!! I'M TIRED OF ANSWERING THIS!

READ THIS THREAD

Can anyone else see my point?

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by Kay King

EDIT: Just checked EZA myself - not one link wheel article there that I could find.

Really?

Your Search Results Are In!

[Kay King]

Jeremy -

I do know what you're saying and agree with some of it. I think the main problem at EZA for a while has been inconsistency of it's editors.

There have been multiple posts complaining about EZA in the past month - and I think perhaps the tone of the answers may sometimes be influenced by the tone of the OP.

Just human nature - and it's not always pretty.

kay

[Big JP]

Jeremy,

Your point is very clear, I have noticed there are a few individuals on this forum that like to be the "know it all" type, and when an individual asks a question like you explained above, they get slammed and feel like a beaten puppie!

Nearly all the questions on forums will be repeats, or simular stories, but times change and so do opinions, that's what makes threads different, and in my opinion what forums are for.

I also agree that Ezine Article mods are very unpredictable, but heck, no-ones perfect.

JP

[JeffLam]

Bravo Jeremy! Totally agreed.

However, it is a common occurence not only in the Warrior Forums, but in other active and popular forums too.

Why people have so much anger and angst in their typings, I always wonder.

[james09]

Thanks for that professional input Jeremy. You know, I started to buy from that RichJerkNet's dude WSO but after seeing his behavior in the forums I decided not to. I just can't see myself supporting somebody like that. It makes me not even want to ask my newbie questions in fear that he will come and embarass me! This is a professional place as I know it and that definitely shouldn't be tolerated!

James

[JeffLam]

Talk about customer feedback...

But I believe James (TheRichJerk) will be professional if it is his business.

..either that or he will claim he doesn't need yours.

Okay I'm getting out of this conflict

[timpears]

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Jazbo, you can see from a quick glance at EZA that their main monetization model is Adsense so it rather makes sense that they don't want to include information that goes against what Google approves.

The name calling in your post above is uncalled for. James may have disagreed with you but he did not stoop to name calling.

Tina

Tina, I think you owe the OP an appology. After reading your post I had to go back and read the OPs post again as I didn't remember him calling anyone names. And when I read it the second time, not a single name was anyone called. The OP was definitely upset, but I saw no name calling at all.

Originally Posted by JeffLam

Talk about customer feedback...

Yeah sort of reminds me of those fake testimonials you see by fake people..

James

Originally Posted by timpears

Tina, I think you owe the OP an appology. After reading your post I had to go back and read the OPs post again as I didn't remember him calling anyone names. And when I read it the second time, not a single name was anyone called. The OP was definitely upset, but I saw no name calling at all.

A Mod or someone removed it Tim .... Personally I think they should have left it there. It shows how someones character really is..

James

[troy23]

Well - it is a black hat method so no reason why EzineArticles should accept it.

Just write quality articles - say 4 articles day of 400 or more words and you will be ok.

In a way it is a good thing it has been rejected because it shows that Google is going to drop a lot of pages from it's index now it is aware of the wheel.

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Not everyone knows the answer to every question or has been here long enough to know what's what...

So, as members if we run across a question that we are tired answering or a topic that we are tired of seeing, what should we do?

Be a jerk?

I hear ya brother.

What's even worse is when they have to use other people's stuff to get their point across!

Allen

[vhargis]

I find it interesting how far off topic we can get at times.

How about this for a solution...before we start trying to submit article to EZA or AC that are promoting stuff how about submitting some generic type articles that are completely unrelated to anything you want to promote.

Over the years I have written or had written for us 100s of articles that we have submitted to the various article sites. I find thats it's easier for me to get stuff approved if I write some good content on whatever prior to writing all my promotional articles.

As a result of this our accts have a good reputation which on occasions allows me to get some things published that others might not.

Take what the sites give you...learn from it...adapt....move on. Thats how you get good

v

[badfun]

Anyone who has done any professional writing has had days when they wanted to wring the editor's neck. I know I have. At least EZA doesn't just go ahead and change your work arbitrarily; they give you a chance to change it.

tough luck on the subject matter, but as has been mentioned, there are hundreds of other article directories.
brent