Why Is No One Bidding On My $450 Per Month Site On Flippa

[yommys01]

Hi warriors, I need help again. I am kinda frustrated that my $450 per month site that has just been listed on flippa is not getting bids and I will like you guys to help me suggest some of the reasons why the site may not be getting bids.

The site makes on average $450 per month with 224 articles written and submitted to Ezinearticles but no one seems to be interested which is frustrating.

The url to the listing is Site for Sale: 450 dollars Per Month Site With Over 200 Unique Articles For Site — Flippa

I got one bid for $250 so far but it is obvious that I will not sell the site for $250. what is the problem? Is the sales letter not good enough? Or is the design so bad?

[GoGetta]

Ok,

Firstly I would of probably put the Success Fee your way rather than the buyers way! Just a thought, may not matter, but if someone buys for 4k it can be a substantial sum to some people.

Secondly, there are spelling errors in the title and subtitle and I believe your title should have been more thought out. Did you research other high traffic listings to see what titles were pulling eyeballs in???

The first block of content is also very heavy on the eye, maybe format this a little better and break it up as I actually couldn't be bothered to read it, get some bulleted benefits near the top, so straight away potential buyers see what they are getting without having to read the whole listing.

This will draw interest and the interested parties will then read the lot!!!

I am not a site flipping expert though and I may be wrong, but those things stood out to me straight away!

I hope that helps and Good Luck with it!

GoGetta

[dmarze]

One reason may be that serious bidders will wait and post their bids last day. Your site is online less than two days. I get most of the serious bids on my flippa auctions last day.

D.Marze

[Javern]

HI,
Don't give up already! Everything takes time; and if you give up or sound desperate, then you will end up losing out; so be hang in there. Good Luck

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by dmarze

One reason may be that serious bidders will wait and post their bids last day. Your site is online less than two days. I get most of the serious bids on my flippa auctions last day.

D.Marze

This is exactly what I was going to say - I've sold a number of similar sites and get most bids on the last day as well.

As mentioned by Gogetta the title and subtitle need improvement.

You say the content is unique but in the Site content section it says there are 8 possible copies.

What percentage of traffic is coming direct from the search engines? Article traffic is alot less valuable as most buyers don't want to keep submitting articles to keep the traffic going.

Never make the buyer pay the success fee (that could be a big reason why you're not getting bids) - I normally go 50/50 or pay it myself.

[sanjid112]

just looking at your auction. Yes, there's misspelling you did. But that doesn't matter for me. And you've got your first bid when I see your auction site. Just be patience and not to go rush for it.

But, there is something I notice about your site. Your site has PR0 on the main page, and many unranked in depth pages. Maybe that's why your auction go up slowly, since you said Google rank it high. Secondly, your site theme is usual for me, and not eye-catching.

But anyway you still have 3 more days, right? So, with your first bidder there, you will get another bidder very soon.

-Malik

[yommys01]

Thanks for the replies. I really appreciate your suggestions. I have seen some of the spelling errors but it seems you can no longer edit your title and sales letter with flippa.

@ Javern, is that suppose to be your first post on the warrior forum? Sincerely, I could not have done better than that. People like you are the main reason I am still in this business.

@ everyone, I will keep watching to see if someone will buy the site, if it is not sold, I will work on it for another 1 month and then relist in December.

The only problem is that Clickbank is not sending my checks and I have urgent financial problems to attend to.

[yommys01]

Funny enough, I just checked the stats and the site has done it first $100 day. It made $105.94 yesterday.

[dlmartin]

Originally Posted by yommys01

Funny enough, I just checked the stats and the site has done it first $100 day. It made $105.94 yesterday.

Yep - some people actually list their site for sale just for the traffic boost

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by dlmartin

Yep - some people actually list their site for sale just for the traffic boost

Was that suppose to be an insult to my person?

I expect someone like you to understand since you were interested in buying the site about 1-2 months ago. I got someone to help me pay the listing fee yet I was listing to boost traffic?

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by dlmartin

Yep - some people actually list their site for sale just for the traffic boost

Why would someone do that? People at Flippa are looking to buy sites, not what the sites are selling .

[Danny Cutts]

very nice site!

Why would you want to sell it? I understand about a quick 4k but still if it keeps growing I am sure you will make more....

I dont flip many sites as I like to hang on!

Good luck I will be watching

Danny

[sbucciarel]

Originally Posted by yommys01

Funny enough, I just checked the stats and the site has done it first $100 day. It made $105.94 yesterday.

Buyers should not have to pay a "success fee" for you selling your site. I pay that myself.

The site looks good but the sales copy is messy and hard to read. Format it ... you can't do it this time, but add bold headings and paragraphs instead of run-on text. Make it look nice and easy to read.

If you just made a $100 day, add that in your comments today. Might spur some interest. I have a new listing for a site making $600 mnth and it is a 30-day auction, so I'm not expecting much in the way of bids until closer to the end, unless someone just must have it. There are 2 people watching it so I know there's some interest. A lot of people wait til the end to see what others are bidding, etc.

[Andy Fletcher]

What were the comments that you deleted? When you delete comments you should update your listing to explain why. There are a lot of scams on Flippa and one of the most obvious signs is deleted comments, which is usually people asking questions the scammers don't want to shine a light on.

Not saying that is the case here but you should realise that is the perception a lot of people will have if you don't explain.

[sbucciarel]

Originally Posted by Andy Fletcher

What were the comments that you deleted? When you delete comments you should update your listing to explain why. There are a lot of scams on Flippa and one of the most obvious signs is deleted comments, which is usually people asking questions the scammers don't want to shine a light on.

Not saying that is the case here but you should realise that is the perception a lot of people will have if you don't explain.

Most likely deleted due to all the little a**hole auction spoilers on Flippa. That is my perception when I see deleted comments, particularly since I am a seller and have deleted them myself.

One thing that many of them do not realize is that auction spoiling, leaving negative comments about an auction, is against Flippa TOS and Flippa will delete them and their traces and ban the commenter if it is reported. I report it when it happens and I no longer get as many of them. If you believe an auction should be reported for being a scam, that is what the report button is for.

Comments on auctions are one of the reasons I hate Flippa. I pay for the auction and then have to constantly guard it against these little auction spoiling vermin that infest Flippa.

[yommys01]

I have just posted about the new sales and also restored all the deleted comments.

[andrew_writes]

Originally Posted by yommys01

The site makes on average $450 per month with 224 articles written and submitted to Ezinearticles but no one seems to be interested which is frustrating.

Hi,

I just wanted to ask if you could PM me with an outline of how you achieved this.

I'm interested in turning a few of my blogs into auto cash generators like this and any pointers would be helpful.

Thanks
Andrew

[yommys01]

Sure, I will do that when the site has finally be sold or when the auction ends. Will pm you link when the time comes.

[Alex Williams]

Just wait until the last few days, and the bidders should come in. Also, you might want to accept the current bid, even if you won`t sell the website for that amount of money. This will help you get the ball rolling.

Also, I have noticed (but I might be wrong here, so don`t take this as serious advice), that websites that are listed for a longer period, they do not get as much attention as the ones that are listed for say - 7 or 10 days. Again, that`s just my ecperience.

Wish you luck!

Alex

[andrew_writes]

Originally Posted by yommys01

Sure, I will do that when the site has finally be sold or when the auction ends. Will pm you link when the time comes.

Thanks, much appreciated.

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by Alex Williams

Just wait until the last few days, and the bidders should come in. Also, you might want to accept the current bid, even if you won`t sell the website for that amount of money. This will help you get the ball rolling.

Also, I have noticed (but I might be wrong here, so don`t take this as serious advice), that websites that are listed for a longer period, they do not get as much attention as the ones that are listed for say - 7 or 10 days. Again, that`s just my ecperience.

Wish you luck!

Alex

The site is listed for 5 days ( grace ) and there is no any pending bid. I have accepted the $250 bid.

[dlmartin]

Originally Posted by yommys01

Was that suppose to be an insult to my person?

I expect someone like you to understand since you were interested in buying the site about 1-2 months ago. I got someone to help me pay the listing fee yet I was listing to boost traffic?

I was not insulting you at all - in fact I just bid on the site.

My comment was a stated fact - I've seen perpetual sites for sale on Sitepoint (now Flippa). It's a high PR site thats links get ranked quickly in Google.

If you list your site for sale there you will get an instant traffic boost and possibly a sales boost for any products.

I've purchased a number of sites off Sitepoint over the years - after you purchase it you can see the stats bump during the time it was listed and it drops off immediately afterward.

[dlmartin]

Originally Posted by andrew_writes

Hi,

I just wanted to ask if you could PM me with an outline of how you achieved this.

I'm interested in turning a few of my blogs into auto cash generators like this and any pointers would be helpful.

Thanks
Andrew

Just to be clear - I've been watching this site for several months as I was interested in buying it. I wouldn't call it an 'auto cash generator' as Yommy has put a huge amount of work into the articles that drive traffic to it.

From the income each month he's definitely proved that article marketing works.

[ladyjane]

Yes, like many others, I've also noticed that bidding really picks up in the last day of an auction. I've had auctions that only got a bid or two at the beginning, then erupted into a bidding war that actually extended the auction a day or more past when it would normally have closed. Those types of things are always exciting! So wait until the last day of the auction and see what happens. If your auction has any watchers on it, they may come out and bid as the auction gets nearer to closing.

[andrew_writes]

Originally Posted by dlmartin

Just to be clear - I've been watching this site for several months as I was interested in buying it. I wouldn't call it an 'auto cash generator' as Yommy has put a huge amount of work into the articles that drive traffic to it.

From the income each month he's definitely proved that article marketing works.

I'm sure he has put a lot of work in. I just meant that now, the site seems to be on autopilot.

[jasonmorgan]

from your ad...

The 218 articles published are only submitted to ezinearticles which means you can easily double the current monthly earning by distributing the articles to the other over 1000 articles directories

I think you should have taken an extra day or two and done this yourself as well as outsourced a backlink package and worked on the site PR (many buyers still love PR).

Aside from that... 4 months isn't enough time for me to buy a site. I'd want to see consistent earnings over a year.

BTW... very nice site.

[michaelwalters]

I think the language used on your website is too SEO centric and looses the actual feel of reading the content.
I guess that is turning of the reader.. apart from which I don't see a problem in your auction.

Selling a website always comes with a bit of waiting.

Patience is a virtue my friend

[Jhf14]

Originally Posted by GoGetta

Ok,

Firstly I would of probably put the Success Fee your way rather than the buyers way! Just a thought, may not matter, but if someone buys for 4k it can be a substantial sum to some people.

Secondly, there are spelling errors in the title and subtitle and I believe your title should have been more thought out. Did you research other high traffic listings to see what titles were pulling eyeballs in???

The first block of content is also very heavy on the eye, maybe format this a little better and break it up as I actually couldn't be bothered to read it, get some bulleted benefits near the top, so straight away potential buyers see what they are getting without having to read the whole listing.

This will draw interest and the interested parties will then read the lot!!!

I am not a site flipping expert though and I may be wrong, but those things stood out to me straight away!

I hope that helps and Good Luck with it!

GoGetta

This is a good response and contains everything i was going to address. However, you may also want to sell it on WF if you haven't already (in the appropriate section of course)

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by dlmartin

Just to be clear - I've been watching this site for several months as I was interested in buying it. I wouldn't call it an 'auto cash generator' as Yommy has put a huge amount of work into the articles that drive traffic to it.

From the income each month he's definitely proved that article marketing works.

Thanks for the bid, it has now been accepted. However, I need to point out that the site is on autopoilt with the 227 articles already published at EZA.

The evident to that is the amount the site has made this month. The site got 2 rerfunds today ( which is unusual ) and another sale which puts the total amount made so far at $98 which isn't too bad considering it is just the 4th day of the month.

[jeffbarnes]

I will have to take a look at it. Maybe perception is that the value won't last long.

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by jeffbarnes

I will have to take a look at it. Maybe perception is that the value won't last long.

what do u mean by the value will not last long?

[yommys01]

Question : I have 11 people watching the site are this 11 potential buyers or sellers trying to see if the site will sell?

I suppose there is no way to check but I still want to know if it is that flippa will send those watching the auction a message to remind them about the listing before it closes or is there a way they will be notified about activites going on with the auction?

[jeffbarnes]

Originally Posted by yommys01

what do u mean by the value will not last long?

What I meant is that I can see that you are getting results since July which is great. But like most products that have a life-cycle, what is the potential for long lasting recurring revenue to justify the price for future potential offerings.

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by jeffbarnes

What I meant is that I can see that you are getting results since July which is great. But like most products that have a life-cycle, what is the potential for long lasting recurring revenue to justify the price for future potential offerings.

I don't really know how to answer this questions but sincerely if you search on google keywor research tool, you will find out that more people than you ever imagined are looking for how to conduct a reverse phone lookup search.

[abbadox]

yommys01, don't get to upset yet. I follow lots of sites on Flippa and most of the serious bids happen near the end of the auction. I also wanted to ask if you have a reserve price in mind please pm me.

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by abbadox

yommys01, don't get to upset yet. I follow lots of sites on Flippa and most of the serious bids happen near the end of the auction. I also wanted to ask if you have a reserve price in mind please pm me.

PM sent to you.

[Kay King]

I'm not sure where this thread is going. You have posted that you accepted the $250 bid but the current bid is showing as $600. What's that?

I agree you should pay the success fee. The design is fine for the site but there are a lot of errors and poor text on the site. That may not matter if the site is consistently earning but it might reduce the value of the site to a new owner.

kay

[mohammad111]

I just checked the listing and you have two bids and your price had gone to $600 so stop worrying and Chill Out

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by Kay King

I'm not sure where this thread is going. You have posted that you accepted the $250 bid but the current bid is showing as $600. What's that?

I agree you should pay the success fee. The design is fine for the site but there are a lot of errors and poor text on the site. That may not matter if the site is consistently earning but it might reduce the value of the site to a new owner.

kay

The $600 was placed few hours ago just before I made the post where I stated I had recieved the $250 bid.

[francof]

Patience, it'll sell for sure and IMO, at the BIN price. In fact, if I were able to afford I would probably buy it right now and might do that if I can get enough clients overdue invoices paid soon

Nice site and work to get it to that point. Congrats.

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by francof

Patience, it'll sell for sure and IMO, at the BIN price. In fact, if I were able to afford I would probably buy it right now and might do that if I can get enough clients overdue invoices paid soon

Nice site and work to get it to that point. Congrats.

Thanks for your kind words. I am hoping it will sell at the BIN price that will make my day.

All my nights at the cyber cafe ( having to deal with lots of mosquitoes, smokers and irriating people trying to change their accents in order to scam an American, British or French man will be paid for should the site sell.

[Dennis-White]

If I were you Id format your sales copy better for a better read and offer to pay the success fee over at flippa

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by Dennis-White

If I were you Id format your sales copy better for a better read and offer to pay the success fee over at flippa

Thanks for the advise. Problem is, flippa.com unlike sitepoint, do not allow you to change your description once it has been submitte.

As for the success fee, I will be paying for the escrow fees and the buyer should be able to pay the flippa fees.

[nicebiz]

Originally Posted by yommys01

Thanks for your kind words. I am hoping it will sell at the BIN price that will make my day.

All my nights at the cyber cafe ( having to deal with lots of mosquitoes, smokers and irriating people trying to change their accents in order to scam an American, British or French man will be paid for should the site sell.

Cheer up, you can make it ... You have a nice site, I like it. I hope you can sell your site pretty soon.

"Tough times never last but tough people do" - You are one of the tough guys there.

[yommys01]

Originally Posted by nicebiz

Cheer up, you can make it ... You have a nice site, I like it. I hope you can sell your site pretty soon.

"Tough times never last but tough people do" - You are one of the tough guys there.

Thanks man, I am hoping the site will sell. I have 12 people watching it which smells good.

[Lance K]

Perhaps you should contact Allen about payment for this thread. Regardless of intent, it seems to be an advertisement.

[jrod014]

Don't worry, I'm sure it will sell. Most of my previous flips were sold later before the auction ended.

If it makes you feel any better My network didn't sell and it makes about $650 a month and has over 700 newsletter subscribers that come with the sites.

Site for Sale: Network of PR3,PR2 Blog sites, 3K EPN revenue, 100 Adsense w/ 103k UV average — Flippa

Some sites take longer than others to sell.

Good luck!!

[Desmond Ong]

Affiliate sites are usually valued way below sites that are producing its content or selling its own content.

Most presell sites (assuming that's your case) are valued at 2X the monthly income while a minisite can be valued at 5X the monthly income.

That is one reason why I don't flip affiliate sites anymore.

[kay12345]

sometimes you just have to wait, don't worry

your site is selling at a bargain price

[GoGetta]

Yommy,

You can alter the description once the listing is LIVE!

You can't alter the title, thats all!

If you are logged in at Flippa, visit your page and then your listing. Now down the right hand side you will have some options. One of these options is to "Edit Your Listing".

Click on that and you can edit the description all you want. I did it just before on one of my listings!

HTH

GoGetta