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Old 11-05-2009, 09:25 AM   #1
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I've lurked around this forum for a week or so after seeing a few refrences to it in the ukbusinessforums website.

I'm a web developer/marketer with 10 years experience. Back in around 2004 I did quite well with a number of overture web directories, since then I've played golf, done some travelling, a few snowboard seasons and more recently got to work on marketing and development for clients on a freelance basis.

Freelance is ok for monthly monies but I need a more residual income to be able to fund more travelling.

I haven't really touched IM but I am in the process of setting up an amazon affiliate site.

What other options are there? I think I need more direction, do I try and semi automate affiliate/amazon type site create on a large slightly spammy type scale. Or would I be better concentration on 1 or 2 sites, building loads of backlinks, doing PPC etc

I consider my self to have a decent amount of adwords knowledge. Is there any money to be made from channeling PPC visitors to some kind of offer or affiliated product?

Or is my best bet to actually buy some stock, setup a business and website and promote that through SEO and PPC. Even though that makes it much harder to go away travelling. I would prefer to build on something that gives me an income but can be managed from anyway on a laptop.

I would be grateful of any comments or advice you guys can give.

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Old 11-05-2009, 10:06 PM   #2
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Default Re: In need of some direction- go to the right

This is what I think would work best for me if I had a laptop and wanted to travel, but that doesn't mean it is something that you should do. You are the one that has to decide that.

I would work on building a website, doing the seo to get traffic and sell affiliate products. You should be able to do that any where as long as you have a laptop.

Now, should you join the War Room, It's your decision, but I will tell you this, I have learned a lot in the 12 years I have been marketing on the Internet, so there are not many e-books I buy that contain any new information to me, but there is seldom a month that I don't learn something new or receive a valuable product in the War Room.

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With good adwords knowledge that you have and your developer skills I would look into being a Clickbank Vendor or something similar. Start researching that to see if could do that.

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If you are looking to make money from the internet I would suggest taking the highly regarded program called thirty day challenge. I think it is free (the archives are free and the course has already completed for this year).

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I would look into affiliate marketing through Clickbank to begin with. You should be able to find plenty of opportunities to promote something inside clickbank and you can get approved instantly.

I would look through the WSOs and pick up a few that give tips on something that may interest you such as article market or video marketing...etc.

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I would build niche sites for low competition keywords. You can start seeing some residual money pretty fast that way and it doesn't cost much other than your time and the price of domains.

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Or is my best bet to actually buy some stock, setup a business and website and promote that through SEO and PPC. Even though that makes it much harder to go away travelling. I would prefer to build on something that gives me an income but can be managed from anyway on a laptop.
I'm like you. My whole raison d'etre is to fund my travels. Rieko and I go to Europe once a year, we do hot springs travels here in Japan, and we try to get to other Asian countries quite often.

For me, what works the best is my info product business. This Summer, I actually was 100% unconnected (not once on the Internet) for two weeks, and the other two weeks I simply checked my e-mail via a laptop I borrowed at my brother-in-law's in the UK (Too lazy to even carry my own laptop with me). The business just keeps humming along nicely whenever I take long vacations.

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I would build niche sites for low competition keywords. You can start seeing some residual money pretty fast that way and it doesn't cost much other than your time and the price of domains.
Right now I am gravitating towards building niche sites for low competition keywords. Building HUGE amounts of quality back links is very time consuming in my opinion so I'm thinking by building sites around low competition keywords will mean minimum backlinking will be required.

Also my problem with putting all your effort into one site, sometimes google just seems to take a disliking to your site no mater how many backlinks you seem to build. I like the idea of spreading your risk over multiple sites with minimal ongoing work.

I'm pretty nifty wth automating things. Last year i had a job to restructure and categorise 100 websites (turning a 2 page site into about 5 pages, splitting the links page into unique pages for each category of links). The company I did this for was quite tight and wanted it done for £10 per site, 1 per hour. After I had done the first 4 or 5 I had managed to part automate the process and trimmed it down to 15 mins per site!

I also have a link profiling type tool that I created about 6 months back that can check the back links of all the top 10 google listings for a keyword, process them and work out the hub links, number of unique sites links. It doesn't do link text right now but I could implement that I suppose.

I also created a text profiling type tool to check onsite optimisation of a site.

I'm thinking I could put all this together to automate the process of deciding which keywords are competetive to decide whats worth making a site for. I know wordpress inside out so I could just bang out sites pretty quickly and then get the girlfriend to social bookmark, maybe write some articles and stick some basicc content on the sites as we churn them out (girlfriend works with me full time right now - when shes not washing up or hoovering! lol).

Writing this post I think I have a plan, I just need to get off my arse and do it!

Thanks for your input so far guys.
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It's awesome you have programming knowledge to automate your business, and you should as much as you can. I think what you're doing now is a solid plan - creating these tightly focused niche sites with little comp. Kind of like set up and forget it type of thing.

You can also document what you're doing, if you can build some software to help you make these faster, later on you can come out with your own product. Sell as a WSO and then put it on Clickbank.

The key thing, which you addressed, is to just do it! hehe

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From what I read, you seem to know your stuff, so if you know about PPC and SEO use it to your advantage! Personally I would look into doing some affiliate marketing as that can get you up and running and you can mix your PPC and SEO skills into it. You just need to sit down do some serious research and find whats best for you.

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Also my problem with putting all your effort into one site, sometimes google just seems to take a disliking to your site no mater how many backlinks you seem to build. I like the idea of spreading your risk over multiple sites with minimal ongoing work.

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Don't just diversify sites, diversify sources of income. By this I mean do not rely just on, for example, Google because if they cut you off they will cut off all your sites (sooner or later). Five independent sources of income each contributing 20% of your IM income would be ideal if difficult to achieve.


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Writing this post I think I have a plan, I just need to get off my arse and do it!

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Many find this the most difficult part. Try making a specific plan to make $200 by the end of December. Something that you will need to work at to achieve but not so demanding that it is unlikely that you will succeed. Then move on from there and never look back.

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