2 types of IM marketer

You forgot the other two:

Action takers
&
Fence sitters.

Buying PLR, RR, MRR and reselling it does not make someone a Internet Marketer...

James

I agree with you 110%. Here are some more handy percentages to keep in mind, too.

85% of humans are so un-self-aware that they may as well be sleepwalking through their whole lives. Evolution would normally have killed off those people back in the caveman days, but now society supports them and they somehow end up having money. They live almost entirely by their emotions and animal drives and use their logical minds only to attempt to rationalize the stupid things they do.

The other 15% of humans are different - slightly more evolved and self-reflective. They are self-aware, and have some amount of mental discipline - enough to have their logical mind have control over their emotional one. But this group has a very big split.

Of that 15%, 5% want to help out and lift up the other 85%. They are filled with compassion and want to live in a better world. Most of the people in this class would consider "marketing" and "persuasion" distasteful and pushy. That's mostly just misplaced morality and a fundamental failure in understanding communication. It's sad, really, how ineffective this well-meaning 5% are at doing what they're trying to do.

The other 10% don't see any reason to "wake up" the other 85% while their in a handy position to exploit them. After all, they're gullible, and have money for the taking. In fact, you could argue that they don't even really deserve to HAVE any money at all. This is where most marketers are. Myself included, though for personal reasons, I only try to market things that will actually make people's lives better and make them happy. Is it a real, lasting, tangible happiness? No. Did they really NEED to buy ANYTHING I ever sold them? No. But I don't care. So long as I make people happier for a little while as we all march inexorably to the grave, then I'm satisfied to take money in exchange for persuading them. I certainly don't defraud or harm people. Unfortunately, some of the more exploitative people out there don't really have those same personal moral problems with leaving people worse off than they found them.

I like to think of it as the difference between shepherds and wolves. Both are going to exploit the sheep - that's the whole point. But the "shepherd" will treat the sheep well, give them a good life, and benefit and profit from a win-win situation by getting wool and milk and cheese and mutton and lamb and all that (lanolin!)...

The wolf will just eat the sheep. Sure, it's a little sustenance, but then, no more sheep. Map this to the real world where this means either someone is tapped dry and left broke, or is so infuriated by being ripped off that they just quit buying stuff. Either way, the wolf and the shepherd both lose in that case.

For me, I try to be one of the good guys, because they already have too many of the bad ones. The whole "making useful content that really helps people" is a WAY less competitive market, you know?

And one final percentage that remains true no matter if the above percentages shift around drastically or not. I got it from one of my favorite writers, Theodore Sturgeon: "99% of everything is crap..."

So regardless of the intentions of the creators or marketers, that's just the way it is. 99% of EVERYTHING is going to be CRAP. No matter what. So if you're willing to deal with that, and accept that part of LIFE is having to sort through the crap to find the good stuff, then you'll do well.

NOTE: People often think this whole "99% is crap" thing is somehow new or recent. This is a species-spanning feature of human nature. Our ability to find the good stuff in an environment of almost overwhelmingly useless and/or dangerous stuff is what separated us from all the other monkeys a long time ago.

It's probably the whole reason language developed in the first place, so we could share that information with other monkeys as to where that 1% of tasty bananas could be found in the 99% of inedible jungle.

The whole point I'm trying to make though is, just try as hard as you can to be in that 1%, because that's what will make any effort stand out.

Anyway, enough rambling. Nice post!

I disagree with the above, most people I have met are extremely intelligent. In fact I have only met about two people who were "asleep" and they were druggies.

PLR products can be fine if they offer good information, let's face it guys IM doesn't change all that much. Most of the information is all going to be the same.

The latest products are usually the same techniques that were being sold 5 years ago, the market seems to go in cycles kind of like fashion. There are changes along the way, but not drastic ones.

It is basic sales technique applied to a new medium. Simple as that.

I have seen people in crappy situations, in crappy states of mind, do very well after getting some help from others. Many of us would be dead in the caveman days. I'd be dead because of an abscess tooth.

In fact, this whole idea of not helping others in a disadvantaged situation does exist, and doesn't work very well. I've seen it firsthand in South America. Here's how it works: Extremely rich, and extremely poor.

It also seems to be the biggest beneficiaries of corporate welfare and individuals who gained their wealth via looting taxpayers' money who are the greatest proponents of a Darwinian approach to society. It's basically diverting attention from their thieving ways by blaming poor people.

I find that most of those who "work for the man" are actually happy with their lives. I understand that we want to be independent, but that doesn't mean everyone does.

For instance my friend is a math major, he plans on working in a team for the government that creates mathematical encryption codes for the military. He wants to work in a group, and does not mind working for someone.

My father works for someone, he is not an executive, but he does not mind working for someone. He find that he is doing exactly what he wants in life. His work involves what is going on in the world (news).

What is wrong with working for someone? Especially if it is what you want to do.

I was reading a book on inventing things recently and the author
cited a scientist who was considered at the top of his game
in research and new ideas.

The scientist said the difference between people like himself
and everybody else was he had the capacity to focus intently
on one single problem for 15 minutes.

Most people cannot focus (think) with a singleminded focus
for more than 30 seconds, let alone 15 minutes.

This is more or less the same insight as Napoleon Hill's
"Think and Grow Rich" - that if you can discipline yourself
to really THINK in a directed and practical way to solve
problems which people would pay to have solved, then
you can make a lot of money and serve humanity too.

It's really not complicated in concept - FOCUS - but in
practicality very little in our consumer culture teaches
profound focus.

I heard a commentary on NPR the other day where the speaker
lamented that our society has become FIXATED on GADGETS
which distract our best and brightest young minds (in fact
all young minds, pretty much) away from the big problems
they'll need to focus on solving to more civilization forward.

That's the culture of Ipods, Bluetooths, CelPhones, Video Games,
YouTube, and countless other pointless pavlovian technological
stimulants that allow people to wander through life feeling
fulfilled when they aren't actually making a contribution
in a meaningful way; I mean not coming anywhere near your
capacity.

For example: what if your child has the gifts to be the
next YoYo Ma - yet he squanders his gifts of eye-hand
coordination playing video games. Sure, he feels gratified
by his skills and winning the games, but does he contribute
in any way to the betterment of the human condition?

This is actually a pretty serious issue. At least I think so -
the technology toys and entertainments young people of
today take for granted are like the dopamine given to
rats to reward them for running a maze correctly - and
the rats prefer the dope to food and die of starvation.

Anyway, if you're clever enough to be aware of what people
will buy and sell it at a profit I hope you'll put some of the
money you make to good use making the world a place
of more free-thought and more capable contributors.

I am not arguing that young people today are stupid or
made so by all the gadgets - but that we only walk on this
earth for 20,000 days more or less - we should be asking
ourselves if we are really making the best of it by merely
seeking the tiny rewards of playing with electronic toys
and other shallow stimulations.

Taking action in and of itself is not enough. What a person needs to do is take right action. Sadly, there are many internet marketers who took action and ended up broke because they took wrong action. How to take right action? Usually it is is to keep on trying and mistaking mistakes until you do it right. There is no 100% guarantee that IM efforts will pay off. The only 100% guarantee is that if you take no shots, you'll score no goals.

As George Carlin said, think about how stupid the average person is. Then realise that half of them are even stupider!

The average foot size for a male is 9, and height 5'9" with 32" leg length. So we better make darn sure everybody wears size nine shoes, and 32" pants (that's how standardized education works). Sure some people are smarter than others. Me, I'm pretty good at some things and a total numbskull in others, so I personally wouldn't be intellectually honest in assuming superiority over others.

wonderful contributions.

One piece of advice: House moving is a pain, but hey I'm making some money out of it.

Denham Bucks here I come!!

Newsflash to estate agents: ''Property prices about to plummet in Denham area dueto a certain undesirabe taking up residence there'

G

I have read Rich Dad Poor Dad,

Financial options is not the only thing in life.

I may be richer then my friend who is a biotech major, but I will never have the knowledge he does. In one way he is enslaved to working somewhere where he wants to work I guess.

But I am enslaved because I do not have his knowledge if you really want to get technical.

There is nothing wrong with "working for the man" Better products get made when people work for each other.

Just because my friend works for someone doesn't mean he is a sheep, or a slave to the person he works for. The only problem I had with rich dad poor dad (great book) was that it made everyone else look like they were struggling. I know many people who work for the man that are doing just fine in life.

Hmmm, boring. I think I'll get to work rather than worry about everyone's opinions of the different types of internet marketers.

I almost dozed off writing my boring replies here, never mind reading them.

Hey Colin,

I just re-read my post and it sounded kind of aggressive. Not my intention.

Guess I was still thinking about Big Mike's thread and this section

"When someone starts out giving advice by saying, "Studies show..." or "Statistically...", and don't provide a citation or reference to where they obtained the information,..."

thought it would be nice if people could give the source of where they find info.

I thought what you wrote was very interesting and I really wanted to read up on it

Like I said, I am sorry my post "sounded" the way it did.

Yes you are an excellent copywriter and would love to hire you one of these days.

Matt

IM Marketer #3:

Always COMMENTATING on marketing and on what other internet marketers
are doing with THEIR businesses instead of focusing on building their
own business and marketing it in a way they see fit.

trying to get off this fence but still stuck here , but at least i`m making somebody money

My wife read my comments here and said, "There is MBA, but for this I'll reward you with a BSA."

(A stands for "artist")