Picking a niche with lots of competition?

jayveen · 11-06-2009, 08:32 PM

Hi all,

So its lots of fun to use google keyword tool and search for niches all day. One disappointing fact is that I'm finding long tail keywords in specialized technical areas that I know a lot about, and then finding that someone else -- probably another warrior -- got there and registered the goodname.com just a month or two ago. Sigh.

Then I found some keywords that have tons of traffic, at least from the niches I've been looking at, where the domainname.* is all taken _but_ the domain-name.[net|org] are available. I impulsively grabbed the hyphenated .org and was about to grab the hyphenated .net (funny, but estibot gives higher value to the .net while I thought you were supposed to get the .org first) when I thought I should check the competition.

So here are the Google results:

domain name 48,500,000
"domain name" 1,430,000
intitle:"domain name" 161,000
allintitle:"domain name" 161,000
allinurl:"domain name" 132,000
inanchor:"domain name" 1,200,000

but I don't know how to evaluate them. Should I go ahead and get the domain-name.net as well and start to write articles for the adsense? The google first page has only two commercial sites on it, the rest are various state ".gov" sites that people are probably going to ignore. The second page has all the action, and there's links on page 3 that I'm sure I could beat.

Would you try to build out this site or not? I'm guessing there's a reason folks haven't already grabbed the domain-name urls.

priyankeshu · 11-07-2009, 10:10 AM

When the market is big, you can identify your target audience and start selling to them.. for instance.. weight loss itself has many niches.. weight loss for teens/ women/ old age / young age / and so forth.

It is always better to follow niche marketing idea in some way...

TLTheLiberator · 11-07-2009, 10:21 AM

Thanks to the way the net is evolving...

...there are so many different methods of reaching any target market, I wouldn't worry about the competition in so-called big niches.

Lots of comp generally means there's lots of money being spent and if you're savvy enough, ( you don't have to be a rocket scientist either ) you can get your share.

All The Best!!

TL

jayveen · 11-07-2009, 10:08 PM

Thanks, I think what you're saying is that I could go ahead and get the "domain-name.org" even with the big competition, but then try to optimize for a smaller, long tail keyword? If that's the case, maybe I should just try to get a long tail keyword domain name. Or I could have subdomains on "domain-name.org" for long tail. It would just be really nice to rank well for this domain.

amoore · 11-07-2009, 11:29 PM

As long as the keyword phrase you are targeting is in the domain name that you select, you should do fine.

11-06-2009, 08:32 PM	#1
jayveen HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 129 Thanks: 25 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Picking a niche with lots of competition? Hi all, So its lots of fun to use google keyword tool and search for niches all day. One disappointing fact is that I'm finding long tail keywords in specialized technical areas that I know a lot about, and then finding that someone else -- probably another warrior -- got there and registered the goodname.com just a month or two ago. Sigh. Then I found some keywords that have tons of traffic, at least from the niches I've been looking at, where the domainname.* is all taken _but_ the domain-name.[net\|org] are available. I impulsively grabbed the hyphenated .org and was about to grab the hyphenated .net (funny, but estibot gives higher value to the .net while I thought you were supposed to get the .org first) when I thought I should check the competition. So here are the Google results: domain name 48,500,000 "domain name" 1,430,000 intitle:"domain name" 161,000 allintitle:"domain name" 161,000 allinurl:"domain name" 132,000 inanchor:"domain name" 1,200,000 but I don't know how to evaluate them. Should I go ahead and get the domain-name.net as well and start to write articles for the adsense? The google first page has only two commercial sites on it, the rest are various state ".gov" sites that people are probably going to ignore. The second page has all the action, and there's links on page 3 that I'm sure I could beat. Would you try to build out this site or not? I'm guessing there's a reason folks haven't already grabbed the domain-name urls.

11-07-2009, 10:10 AM	#2
priyankeshu Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 36 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Picking a niche with lots of competition? When the market is big, you can identify your target audience and start selling to them.. for instance.. weight loss itself has many niches.. weight loss for teens/ women/ old age / young age / and so forth. It is always better to follow niche marketing idea in some way...
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11-07-2009, 10:21 AM	#3
TLTheLiberator Please get a net biz plan War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 1,445 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 27 Thanked 171 Times in 126 Posts	Re: Picking a niche with lots of competition? Thanks to the way the net is evolving... ...there are so many different methods of reaching any target market, I wouldn't worry about the competition in so-called big niches. Lots of comp generally means there's lots of money being spent and if you're savvy enough, ( you don't have to be a rocket scientist either ) you can get your share. All The Best!! TL
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11-07-2009, 10:08 PM	#4
jayveen HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 129 Thanks: 25 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Picking a niche with lots of competition? Thanks, I think what you're saying is that I could go ahead and get the "domain-name.org" even with the big competition, but then try to optimize for a smaller, long tail keyword? If that's the case, maybe I should just try to get a long tail keyword domain name. Or I could have subdomains on "domain-name.org" for long tail. It would just be really nice to rank well for this domain.

11-07-2009, 11:29 PM	#5
amoore Fellow Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: Picking a niche with lots of competition? As long as the keyword phrase you are targeting is in the domain name that you select, you should do fine.