What do you think of my new website?

[greenovni]

http://underdogmotorcycles.com

I just finished this website for a customer. Any other suggestions and ideas?

[TLTheLiberator]

Where's your free gift to induce folks to signup for your newsletter?????

You could send folks to another page for details. ( open in a new window )

All The Best!!

TL

[greenovni]

Good idea! Will tell the customer and see what he wants to do.

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Where's your free gift to induce folks to signup for your newsletter?????

You could send folks to another page for details. ( open in a new window )

All The Best!!

TL

[Ray_Barnes]

Looks Good one thing i noticed on video page is the url for the first video

/costom-motorcycles/

[scrofford]

Originally Posted by greenovni

Underdog Motorcycles

I just finished this website for a customer. Any other suggestions and ideas?

Cool looking site...I am just curious, what did you charge your client?

[Killer Joe]

I liked the other one better...

You still need to rework your copy.

KJ

[MarkAndrews IMCopywriting]

Originally Posted by Killer Joe

You still need to rework your copy.

KJ

I'm in 100% agreement with Bill
about your website copy.

This is a niche I've been involved
in before.

Now first, your font used at the
top of the page, it's very difficult
to read, that doesn't give off a
great first impression if I have
trouble as a visitor even reading
what exactly it is, that this site
is all about.

It is your customers motorcycle
customization skills that you want
to draw attention to, there is no
need for you to go over the top
to prove your point that you are
a great web designer, using a
font which is hardly decipherable.

Will this at the end of the day
help your customers business or
not, that is the question.

What does that say about your
understanding of design principles
per se?

Will that near unreadable font
give off a great impression to the
website visitors or a negative
impression?

If a visitor cannot read that
'instantly' and has to squint to
read it, how long are they really
going to stay on his / her website?

You want to do everything possible
to keep the visitor on the website
for as long as possible. That font
used will drive a good number away
very quickly indeed, without even
reading about your customers core
service.

Do you want them to stay and read
on or do you want them to click out
very quickly?

The font design is not the selling
point, his / her specialization, his /
her area of expertise is customizing
motorcycles.

That would be my impression as a
customer on the receiving end of
having this site design sent to me
by a designer.

I would think this is a guy who
does not understand the very core
marketing potential of my website
and why I want to use it as a
vehicle for acquiring more customers
to my business. This guy is simply
trying to stamp his own design skills
onto my site design, trying to make it
look cool, drawing attention to himself
rather than understanding my true
purpose for wanting this website and
my personal needs.

What is cool in your view from a website
designers point of view and what will
ultimately be best for your client are
two completely separate things.

First point over, lets move into the
web copy on the homepage.

This has been constructed, whacked
together very quickly indeed. I can
see that instantly. It can be tightened
up a great deal. At the moment it
doesn't really connect with the
intended market audience....it's very
weak.

Tune it up, this web copy and it will
be a great deal more effective for
your customer, it can read a lot more
powerfully than this.

Put yourself into your customers
shoes when writing web copy and
understand most importantly the
target audience and talk their
language.

I hope that helps.

Best regards.


Mark Andrews...

[robfoster]

I'm not fan of dark design but you site design is good. I like the site overall. Wordpress or any other CMS ?

[greenovni]

Originally Posted by Ray_Barnes

Looks Good one thing i noticed on video page is the url for the first video

/costom-motorcycles/

I just realized that too! Bacardi's fault... thanks

Originally Posted by scrofford

Cool looking site...I am just curious, what did you charge your client?

$700

Originally Posted by Killer Joe

I liked the other one better...

You still need to rework your copy.

KJ

I like the other one better, client is having "website paralysis" I left the green template as well as the red for WP. The green one will beat the red one hands down when I show him split testing.

Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting

I'm in 100% agreement with Bill
about your website copy.

This is a niche I've been involved
in before.

Now first, your font used at the
top of the page, it's very difficult
to read, that doesn't give off a
great first impression if I have
trouble as a visitor even reading
what exactly it is, that this site
is all about.

It is your customers motorcycle
customization skills that you want
to draw attention to, there is no
need for you to go over the top
to prove your point that you are
a great web designer, using a
font which is hardly decipherable.

Will this at the end of the day
help your customers business or
not, that is the question.

What does that say about your
understanding of design principles
per se?

Will that near unreadable font
give off a great impression to the
website visitors or a negative
impression?

If a visitor cannot read that
'instantly' and has to squint to
read it, how long are they really
going to stay on his / her website?

You want to do everything possible
to keep the visitor on the website
for as long as possible. That font
used will drive a good number away
very quickly indeed, without even
reading about your customers core
service.

Do you want them to stay and read
on or do you want them to click out
very quickly?

The font design is not the selling
point, his / her specialization, his /
her area of expertise is customizing
motorcycles.

That would be my impression as a
customer on the receiving end of
having this site design sent to me
by a designer.

I would think this is a guy who
does not understand the very core
marketing potential of my website
and why I want to use it as a
vehicle for acquiring more customers
to my business. This guy is simply
trying to stamp his own design skills
onto my site design, trying to make it
look cool, drawing attention to himself
rather than understanding my true
purpose for wanting this website and
my personal needs.

What is cool in your view from a website
designers point of view and what will
ultimately be best for your client are
two completely separate things.

First point over, lets move into the
web copy on the homepage.

This has been constructed, whacked
together very quickly indeed. I can
see that instantly. It can be tightened
up a great deal. At the moment it
doesn't really connect with the
intended market audience....it's very
weak.

Tune it up, this web copy and it will
be a great deal more effective for
your customer, it can read a lot more
powerfully than this.

Put yourself into your customers
shoes when writing web copy and
understand most importantly the
target audience and talk their
language.

I hope that helps.

Best regards.


Mark Andrews...

Mark, you are correct on EVERYTHING. Sometimes a customer has to be humored until he sees that it is all about ranking on google and getting new customers.

You have no clue how many cool headers were there while the client keeps asking me to change it oven and over. The client likes that font.... until he sees that it is driving people away.

Over to the content, client is rewriting it as I know nothing about bikes

Originally Posted by robfoster

I'm not fan of dark design but you site design is good. I like the site overall. Wordpress or any other CMS ?

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