by Joe118
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Do you want:

  • excellent deliverability
  • Easy integration of Wordpress or Joomla with your email campaigns?
  • Shopping cart integration that works with your email and blog?
  • Free-for-life 500 subscribers and 2500 emails per month?
  • Email styling and templates, including 364 free holidays-themed formats?
Then head over to Mail Chimp. Used by Mozilla and lots of other big clients, it delivers all the above and much much more.


No, I'm not affiliated with them -- they dont even have an affiliate program as far as I can tell, otherwise I'd join it for sure -- but I am a happy free-for-life user. Of course I'm going to outgrow my 500 free user allocation but that's fine.
#free #mailchimp #tip
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  • Profile picture of the author Chuck Evans
    Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

    Do you want:

    • excellent deliverability
    • Easy integration of Wordpress or Joomla with your email campaigns?
    • Shopping cart integration that works with your email and blog?
    • Free-for-life 500 subscribers and 2500 emails per month?
    • Email styling and templates, including 364 free holidays-themed formats?
    Then head over to Mail Chimp. Used by Mozilla and lots of other big clients, it delivers all the above and much much more.


    No, I'm not affiliated with them -- they dont even have an affiliate program as far as I can tell, otherwise I'd join it for sure -- but I am a happy free-for-life user. Of course I'm going to outgrow my 500 free user allocation but that's fine.
    Actually Mailchimp lets you have up to 500 subscribers AND send out 3,000 emails a month for free!

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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Faisal
    looks interesting
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  • Profile picture of the author MemberWing
    Question to skillful Mailchimp-ers:
    Can I do this:
    - Have person subscribed to my list and immediately deliver to him custom message (it will contain user-specific access password)?

    Someone said that it will take mailchimp.com up to 24 hours to actually send out message - this would be a bummer if it's the case.
    Could someone please confirm/deny that?

    Gleb
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    It looks good, but after 500 subscribers you pay $30 a month. That's $360 a year. Aweber is $10 a month for up to 2,500 subscribers or $120 a year.
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    • Profile picture of the author MemberWing
      Aweber is $10 a month for up to 2,500 subscribers or $120 a year.
      Correction:
      Aweber *starts* from $19/mo PLUS extra $10/mo for subscribers beyond 500.

      Gleb
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      • Profile picture of the author Darrel Hawes
        Right, Aweber's pricing chart is somewhat confusing.

        Once you get above 500 subscribers, Aweber and Mailchimp appear to be very close on pricing.

        Originally Posted by MemberWing View Post

        Correction:
        Aweber *starts* from $19/mo PLUS extra $10/mo for subscribers beyond 500.

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    • Profile picture of the author mgkimsal
      Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

      It looks good, but after 500 subscribers you pay $30 a month. That's $360 a year. Aweber is $10 a month for up to 2,500 subscribers or $120 a year.
      Affordable Email Marketing - Price Your AWeber Account

      One number up at the top says $19/month. One number on the right side says $10/month. I'm not sure I could make a more confusing page if I tried. The page after clicking something shows $19 as the base price.

      It looks to me like I can be paying $19/month, and I can have up to subscribers for free. After that, as my list grows, I'll be paying the extra $10/month or more, based on how many subscribers I have.

      So, AFAICT, mailchimp is truly no cost up to 500 subscribers. AWeber is $19/month for up to 500, and moves to $29/month after 500 subscribers. Yes, it's $1/month less than mailchimp over 500 subs, but unless I'm reading wrong, I don't see a way to pay only $120/year to mail to, let's say, 600 subscribers in either product.
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  • Profile picture of the author rizwan
    ok tell me where i have to subscribe for this ?


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  • Profile picture of the author Jagged
    Does the Free version of Mailchimp have advertisements on it like many of the other "free" autoresponders?
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    • Profile picture of the author Darrel Hawes
      Their ad for Mailchimp service cannot be turned off on free accounts.

      Originally Posted by Jagged View Post

      Does the Free version of Mailchimp have advertisements on it like many of the other "free" autoresponders?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    But, if I have 500 subscribers isn't that only 6 emails to each subscriber every month?
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    • Profile picture of the author mgkimsal
      Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

      But, if I have 500 subscribers isn't that only 6 emails to each subscriber every month?
      Yes. For a free service, that's pretty nice, imo. That's sending out a mailing every 5 days. What are you mailing that requires sending every 5 days? And if you're sending that much because it's value to you, you probably can afford to pay for something, no? (just assumptions here).

      As to advertisements, yes, the mailchimp 'free' version ads a mailchimp banner to the outgoing emails.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
        Originally Posted by mgkimsal View Post

        Yes. For a free service, that's pretty nice, imo. That's sending out a mailing every 5 days. What are you mailing that requires sending every 5 days? And if you're sending that much because it's value to you, you probably can afford to pay for something, no? (just assumptions here).

        As to advertisements, yes, the mailchimp 'free' version ads a mailchimp banner to the outgoing emails.
        Well, if I'm offering some 7 day or 10 day course then most of them wouldn't even get the whole course. And with ads it's just like a rehashed version of the older Getresponse Free.

        I'd rather go with Mad Mimi Email Marketing : Create, send & track emails with Mad Mimi.. It's free till 100 subscribers but with unlimited features... And the pricing is cheaper (Only $8 for 500 and $10 for 1,000 subscribers). Don't know about the ads, though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe118
        Originally Posted by mgkimsal View Post

        What are you mailing that requires sending every 5 days?
        LOL I guess you aren't subscribed to some of the goo rooooooos mailing lists (*cough* howie *cough*) - more like every five hours...
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  • Profile picture of the author paulmac
    If you go over 500 emails does it not cost dearer than aweber ?
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    • Profile picture of the author mgkimsal
      Originally Posted by paulmac View Post

      If you go over 500 emails does it not cost dearer than aweber ?

      Affordable Email Marketing - Price Your AWeber Account
      MailChimp Pricing | MailChimp.com

      up to 500 - mailchimp is free (with an ad for their services)
      up to 500 - aweber is $19

      501-2500
      mailchimp is $30
      aweber is $29

      2501-5000
      mailchimp is $50
      aweber is $49

      5001-10000
      mailchimp is $75
      aweber is $69

      10001-25000
      mailchimp is $150
      aweber is $149

      There's not much difference for any of these except some sweetspot of 5000-10000, where aweber beats mailchimp by $6/month.

      Bear in mind that aweber could be cheaper if you prepay quarterly or yearly - I don't see an option in MC for that.

      Ultimately, there's little pricing difference, and MC will probably attract lots of newcomers with the 'free up to 500' offer, even with the mailchimp logo/link in the emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    MailChimp is actually alright for lower budgets/small projects
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  • Profile picture of the author John Cabral
    Why not just use something like PHPList.

    here is what it can do:


    phplist Features

    * phplist is a one-way email announcement delivery system. It is great for newsletters, publicity lists, notifications, and many other uses. (It is different from group mailing list systems like mailman.)
    * The Web Interface lets you write and send messages, and manage phplist over the internet.
    * phplist keeps sending messages from your web server, even after you shut down your computer.
    * 100 000 + subscribers. phplist is designed to manage mailing lists with hundreds of thousands of subscribers. phplist is excellent with smaller lists too!
    * No duplicate messages. No 'forgotten' messages. phplist manages message delivery with a message queue, ensuring that every subscriber gets the email message, and that no subscribers receive two copies, even if they're subscribed to more than one list!
    * Open/View Tracking tells you how many users opened your email message. This provides a minimum statistic, as many email clients with privacy or security policies block images (gmail, thunderbird, and others).
    * Click Tracking tracks links and URLs. Statistics can be viewed by message, URL or subscriber.
    * Multiple Subscribe Pages allow you to choose many different combinations of templates, languages, user attributes and lists.
    * Templates are completely customizable, and make site integration a breeze.
    * Multiple Templates on different subscribe pages can integrate phplist with several different web sites.
    * Subscriber Attributes like 'name', 'country', and other personal information, are completely customizable. You can specify what information you need to get from users when they subscribe.
    * User Specific Content. You can use Subscriber Attributes in message content to make each and every email message personalized with the subscribers name, country, or any other attribute.
    * HTML email messages. Subscribers can be given the choice between text or html email messages. You decide whether subscribers can choose, what the default choice is, and what format a message is sent in: text only, html only, or both!
    * The HTML Editor allows you to edit html messages from phplist using FCKeditor. TinyMCE is also available.
    * Internationalization. phplist is available in English, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Traditional Chinese, Dutch, Vietname and Japanese and translation work is in progress for other languages.
    * Easy Install via Fantastico, FTP upload, or SSH.
    * Multiple List Administrators. The super-admin can assign lists to List Managers, who can manage their users and lists. The super-admin user can 'prepare' messages that can be sent by list managers to their lists.
    * Subscriber Preferences. Every email message contains personalized URLs for subscribers to update their preferences or unsubscribe. Subscribers can update their own information and keep your database up to date. Unlike most other mailing list managers, in phplist subscribers can change their email address.
    * The User Management tools are excellent to manage and maintain large databases of subscribers.
    * Bounce Processing keeps your database clean of unused and non-existent email addresses.
    * Advanced Bounce handling let's you teach phplist to distinguish between permanent and temporary message-delivery errors. You can define automated actions on receipt of bounce messages according to matches with your regular expressions.
    * CSV Import and Export. Use CSV and tab delimited files to import your existing list of users or to export the users on the phplist system for use in your in-house database. phplist's database has a 'foreign key' to help keep multiple copies of databases synchronized without duplicating users.
    * Attachments can be uploaded and included in messages for download.
    * Send a Web page. Tell phplist the URL of a web page you want to send to your users, and phplist will fetch it and send it. You can even put subscriber-specific parameters in the URL.
    * RSS feeds can be automatically sent to a mailing list weekly, daily, or monthly.
    * PDF messages can be automatically created and sent as attachments to ensure that your message is seen the way it was designed by all your subscribers, regardless of their email message reader.
    * Batch Processing is useful in shared hosting environments. Set the maximum number of sent messages in a given time period.
    * Throttling can limit the load on your server so it doesn't overload.
    * Domain Throttling limits the number of emails to specific domains to keep on the friendly side of their system administrators.
    * Scheduled Sending let's you tell phplist when the message is to be sent.
    * Repetition. A message can be repeated automatically to send updated dynamic content and attachments.
    * Text from HTML. Text email messages are managed fluently in phplist. phplist will automatically create a text version of an html message. Optionally the message composer can create it manually.
    * PGP signing and encrypting (soon).
    Send your message digitally signed or encrypted, or both.
    * Email to Fax (soon).
    Configure the details of your favourite email 2 fax gateway and phplist will send the HTML version of the message as a PDF attachment to your fax gateway. The fax will include the images in the HTML.
    * Integration with other tools. Several systems exist on the internet that integrate phplist with your favourite CMS or blogging tool. Check out the Documentation for a list.
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    • Profile picture of the author MemberWing
      Why not just use something like PHPList.
      here is what it can do:
      phplist Features
      The answer is simple - deliverability.
      Half of all emails send from your own domain will end up in spam folders of destination ISP's.
      Commercial autoresponders takes constant care of whitelisting, blacklisting and direct negotiations with major ISP's to improve deliverability rates.
      Self-baked scripts no matter how nice that anyone (including spammers) can use and abuse cannot compete with commercial autoresponder solutions in terms of deliverability.

      Gleb
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  • Profile picture of the author kay12345
    i've heard that the inbox rate is low

    but i would find out myself
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Razor
    What does excellent deliverability mean? This is my main concern, any stats on this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe118
    Pricing isn't everything you know (even if its a whole whopping $6 a month difference). Chimp integrates via plugins with a whole slew of widely used systems and it has a very capable API that you (*cough* your outsourced labor) can use to make it do basically *anything* you want:

    All Plugins | MailChimp.com
    MailChimp API
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Steinitz
    Aside from their cheesy mascot and their website's slightly disturbing chipperness, for lack of a better word, there's a lot to like about MailChimp, especially their optional pay-for-use pricing.

    I'd nearly decided to convert my free account to a paid one and start using them in earnest when I saw a thread elsewhere on this forum describing a scenario where someone lost their MailChimp account for reasons that seemed arbitrary. It appeared they have restrictions beyond those specifically listed in their terms of service.

    The summary was that "they don't like internet marketers".
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    thanks for the recommendation.
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