Hey Noobs! I Made over 2k in 24 hours!

[Jill Carpenter]

I've come to the conclusion that internet marketing time is like dog years.

What I failed to mention is that my 24 hours did not happen in 24 hours, but was really 24 hours of time invested in the campaign of actual positive action taking.

The campaign itself has paid me in drips and drabs over the course of a couple of years.

In all honesty, I am probably pushing it by saying I even invested 24 hours.

So, why have I not done the same thing over and over again so I can make a cool 2k every couple of days?

Well, here's one example.

During the time of this campaign, I had some mentoring and was advised to set some things up a bit differently - but perhaps was not given enough detail when I went to do so. I needed a to execute an additional site, and decided to do it with Joomla! While the install takes only seconds with simplescripts, the site itself needed a nice theme - which I decided to get a fancy one that needed some special TLC. Not to mention my knowledge of Joomla is spotty so working with it requires me to go back and look how to do certain things up again.

So, I get this beautiful looking Joomla! site going, only to be asked a week later "why did you make this a Joomla! site when all you needed was a squeeze page?" A week spent on making some pretty graphics and trying to customize things all went down the drain.

Back to the drawing board, I created a squeeze page and did get it to appear on the first page within a couple of weeks - only after creating a squidoo, a hub page, a weebly site, some bookmarking, etc.

But wait! How did I do all that in a couple of weeks?

I have done those things before, so implementation did not take as long.

24 hours is not really to be taken literally as in "one day."

I did not factor in all the meals, sleep time, phone calls, mindless email reading, and tons of other things we do to move along.

Newbies don't think about these things. Many of you see "24 hours" or a day and breeze right by the fact that they may have to learn some new things that will take time.

Some methods and plans will just tell you "create a site and buy a domain."

Yes, one can pop up a site on a domain in less than 10 minutes I dare say. But to get to that point of it taking you only 10 minutes of time, you will need to know how to do a proper quick research, have a domain account in place that fills in most of the information for you (I probably spent a couple of hours the first time I dealt with godaddy as I had to get on the phone with them and have some things explained), Have a host established (add on a good 12 hours there at least research time etc), and have some content to drop on it (this you can buy with your money - lets say $25 which took you 2 hours to make at your $12.50 an hour job).

So, did it take me 16 hours or 10 minutes to make a site?

Noobs, when you go looking for things in the WSO's that promise x results in x time, take into account your IM dog years. I wish I could give you an exact mathematical equation on how to factor it, but it will vary on your experience and the time it takes you to learn.

Do keep up the faith! It is possible to make this kind of money in a short time - when you really know what you are doing.

[jazbo]

Knowing what you are doing in terms of getting the targeted visitors is absolutely key to success.

[SusanneUK]

Brilliant!

I just posted a link here in this thread, hoping it will help the poster understand what we have been trying to say.

Show me how to make the MONEY online !

Cheers
Sue

[Ken Leatherman]

Jill,

You did good. You know this advice not only applies to the new folks, but it serves as a reminder to those of us who have been around awhile.

You also have several great lessons within the lesson. Time Management, Rinse and Repeat (of what you learn), FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS.

Ken Leatherman
The Old Geezer

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by SusanneUK

Brilliant!

I just posted a link here in this thread, hoping it will help the poster understand what we have been trying to say.

Show me how to make the MONEY online !

Cheers
Sue

Yes, he might get a better understanding.

With the holidays coming and everyone looking for quick cash I'm sure we will see a spring in these kinds of posts.

There is a way to make that kind of money, but not without some monetary investment. If you are acting as a "manager" and not doing the grunt work you can do it. But it requires investment which is likely beyond someone who is looking for that much money per day right out of the gate.

Something like a 10k investment into a working business, or into a ton of niche sites created with some good cheap adwords campaigns. Of course, you will need to have a trusted crew working for you and that alone can take a great deal of time to find.

[SusanneUK]

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

Yes, he might get a better understanding.

With the holidays coming and everyone looking for quick cash I'm sure we will see a spring in these kinds of posts.

There is a way to make that kind of money, but not without some monetary investment. If you are acting as a "manager" and not doing the grunt work you can do it. But it requires investment which is likely beyond someone who is looking for that much money per day right out of the gate.

Something like a 10k investment into a working business, or into a ton of niche sites created with some good cheap adwords campaigns. Of course, you will need to have a trusted crew working for you and that alone can take a great deal of time to find.

Exactly!

Thanks again
Sue

[Richard Tunnah]

Jill,
Nice post. I think you learn in this business all the time but it definitely a steep learning curve to begin with. Many of the 'big hitters' have done there time - which many forget.

Rich

[Multinetting]

You learn from your competitors. Take it on the chin when you get outflanked and come back and do what they did. I had a site at number 4 in google for about 2 weeks and made a great income, then it dropped like a stone.... basically because google rejigged its algorithm or something and a lot of the backlinks just disappeared. You either give up or start again.

My advice.....adapt or forget it.

[morninjoi]

I'm really learning that IM is no quick fix.There is so much learning to do and the more you learn the more you know.The more you know, the better your chances of earning.It still beats me how some noobs earn so easily after a couple of months.

[mmurtha]

Hey Jill,

I think you did well on explaining the equation by what your wrote. Sure, it isn't a mathematical one, but it sure does cut to the chase!

Putting the truth out there in front of people gives them a sense of realism so they know what to expect in the end.

Anyway, maybe this will answer some questions for some of the new people just coming in, or at least help them from getting so frustrated, or from feeling cheated.

[theultimate1]

Hi Jill,

Thanks for bringing the "IM-workhours" reality to us noobs. In most situations, however, the time required to perform the IM-related activities (apart from content and product development) would come down drastically, each time it's done. So, that's cool. You give us guys a new hope. Thanks for that, again

I have a question though: You did make $2,000 out of 24 workhours, which is cool. Is it repeatable/duplicable? That will make sure that you have a successful system in place. (It will require tweaking, updations and constant monitoring, no doubt.)

[Lisa Gergets]

Oh thank god, Jill. I looked at this thread and thought...oh no not again. And then looked at the username and thought OH NO NOT JILL! LOL

Good advice will never go out of style!

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by theultimate1

I have a question though: You did make $2,000 out of 24 workhours, which is cool. Is it repeatable/duplicable? That will make sure that you have a successful system in place. (It will require tweaking, updations and constant monitoring, no doubt.)

Absolutely!

But, that is just one type of product, and one system.

I have other things I promote which get set up slightly differently. But a lot of the same skills are applied across the board.

AND - Here is something. I started years ago with a small little video business offline, but I did not want to offer those services really online. I mean, the whole point to working online is to be able to automate a lot of things and make more for doing less, right? My online business has developed differently. It has actually taken me 2 years to arrive at something that I want to be my "expertise" and realize I was really good at.

I have a lot of different interests, and some things I am better at than others.

I don't know if it has been the "right" approach to it all, but feels like it was right for me.

I was involved in film at one point, and went to a seminar on working as a producer. This one line given was great. The guy said, if you are at a party and someone asks what you do, you tell them you are a Producer. If they take it one step further and ask what you are working on, you just reply with "I have several projects in different stages of production."

This is basically where I have gone with my IM. I have several projects, some are finished, some are still in the works, and they are in different stages of production.

Part of that seminar was devoted to explaining all the different parts required to fully produce a film. You need a script (which you can write or purchase) you need actors, you need a crew, you need locations, you need you need - you get the point. To get a solid understanding of IM, I needed to take some time to explore all the different hats and positions I could. The more you do the more you can develop a long term goal or objective. You learn what works and what does not.

There are some "key" elements that work, and those are a regular theme you will see in all the WSO's that give you some kind of plan. IE: keyword research. This is very important. Where those WSO's differ is in the way they are taught or presented, and everyone finds a new little strategy or trick. Some will tell you go to the adwords keyword tool, some will tell you to use other tools. Are they right? Yes, usually they all are. But you will find one method will work better for you than the others.

I like to chop things by hand. You might like to use a food processor. Both get the job done, both can produce onions that look different. Mine are more chunky, and yours are really fine. Some people will want my chunky onions and some will want them the way you minced them.

If I look at anyones plans in there, I look for the key bullets and for the one thing I may not know about. I expect the majority of what I come across to look the same at this point. I am truly familiar with the bulk of it. I personally feel confident if someone tells me something can be done or completed in x amount of time, unless there is a ringer in there I have not done before I would be able to follow along in the allotted time frame.

But I have to say, some of the products there that say they are for newbies can be deceiving. Not because they can't be done by someone new, and not because they don't work, but they do require a bit of understanding and knowledge under your belt to do them in a faster time frame.

And, a lot of those plans should be just one part of your business plan - unless you really are just looking for that extra $100 a month and this is going to be just a part time gig for you. If you are going for this full time and you want to make several hundred a day, you should not put all your eggs in one basket. You will need to understand many techniques, many ways to promote, and you need to prepare to build Rome and not the shed out back.

All it takes is one major money making campaign to go down the crapper and your income just stops.

Keep learning, develop a strategy, and focus enough on one thing to make that first few dollars. Then step out and try something different.

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by TinkerAndPo

Oh thank god, Jill. I looked at this thread and thought...oh no not again. And then looked at the username and thought OH NO NOT JILL! LOL

Good advice will never go out of style!

LOL, headlines work.

[PVReymond]

Great!

The key is to know where to go, what to do, in what order to do it and how to do it. Once you know all this you are well on your way to success.

Thanks,
^PV Reymond

[Popstar]

Jill,

I know we're not supposed to say "great post," but... great post.

Sometimes, people make it seem too easy to get started on the Internet. One of the biggest problems is figuring out what you need to learn before you can actually learn it.

Debbie

[SurviveUnemployment]

... you need to prepare to build Rome and not the shed out back.

I love this! This is exactly the best way to think about it. Are there ways to make quick money online? Sure. But slow and steady still wins the race.

Cyberspace is still the new frontier in a lot of ways. Those people who stake out the biggest claims will be the ones whose children and grandchildren flourish. It took guts to build a sod hut in Nebraska in 1875, but the people who did that and stuck to it became the elite families of that region. It took guts to pan for gold in California in 1849 -- and most of the miners didn't make much off the gold itself. If you staked out a 100-acre claim in that area though, well, that same 100 acres was worth a darn lot of money a few decades later. Today it would be worth an ungodly fortune.

If you build a decent website and keep building it, you're staking out a bigger claim. Over time, more people will find it, competitors will give up and "go back East." This is why people should focus on their own properties, not Squidoo, Hubpages, EZA or whatever.

[actionplanbiz]

Just Curious, Did you also make $125 in 24 Hours in the past?

Just wondering

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by actionplanbiz

Just Curious, Did you also make $125 in 24 Hours in the past?

Just wondering

I've actually made over $1,000 in 24 hours, for several days in a row. Of course, there was a $200-$300 a day investment into adwords to clear the grand. And that investment should have even been less - but there were technical difficulties with the final landing page (it got too much traffic and the site went down several times). Even worse, I lost potential back end sales on that move.

That's why I am firm about telling people who pay for adwords to have a stinking list set up. If you are paying for traffic, you are wasting money to not have a way to bring converting buyers back again.

You also need to really check out what the heck you are promoting, because when something turns out to be a scam it can royally screw up your head with guilt and make you feel like you have no credibility. But we won't go into that story here.

[JAIDEEP2959]

This is a very good advice.

It takes time to learn the aspects of internet marketing.

Because of such claims, FTC has put up strict policies and guidelines.

[SusanneUK]

My online business has developed differently. It has actually taken me 2 years to arrive at something that I want to be my "expertise" and realize I was really good at.

I feel like you just described me there Jill - I so get this!

Sue

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by SusanneUK

I feel like you just described me there Jill - I so get this!

Sue

Looking at it all now, it's like someone had handed me clothes that were a few sizes too big, and I had to grow into them. I'm one of those people who has growth spurts. I think for some it is a more gradual process. As long as you get to where you are going in the end it is all good.

The clothes are just about to fit, and then I will look forward to growing out of them and getting bigger.

LOL, trying to go the other way physically.

[SusanneUK]

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

Looking at it all now, it's like someone had handed me clothes that were a few sizes too big, and I had to grow into them. I'm one of those people who has growth spurts. I think for some it is a more gradual process. As long as you get to where you are going in the end it is all good.

The clothes are just about to fit, and then I will look forward to growing out of them and getting bigger.

LOL, trying to go the other way physically.

That's another very good analagy and I too wish to go the other way physically..

Sue

[AM Faisal]

Brilliant job!

[rwb24]

Thanks Jill - you are the reason I am really enjoying this forum soooo much!

[rwb24]

....what I meant to say is, people like you make this Warrior Forum a great place to learn.

[digileaf]

So true, so true. The bit that made me smile the most was the Joomla experience. I remember being shown Joomla about 18 months ago and being shown how easy it was to use. That was fine when I had a Joomla expert at the end of the phone saying "click here, click there, wow look at that, wasn't that easy"! ... but left to my own devices and it was a very different story, fraught with frustrations.

But I persevered and today I'm the Joomla expert.

Nothing is ever as easy as the experts make out, but if you persevere then you will be an expert yourself someday. It usually takes longer than you first expect to master a new skill or technique, but it's always well worth it in the end when you start to reap the rewards.

[dmgray]

I am glad to hear I am not alone in underestimating the actual real time it takes to get things done!

Yes, many people will tell you it will take you x amount of minutes/hours to performs a task, but they are not calculating for the time it will actually take a non-expert or someone unfamiliar with a certain system to complete the task.

From my experience, whatever time you think something will take you to do is never a true estimate. You nearly always never figure in the distractions that may hinder your progress, the unseen technical difficulties lurking in the shadows and the little details you may have simply forgotten to plan for in your original estimate.

Always allow yourself more time than you think you will need. I promise you that you WILL need that time!!

[wkly10k]

I am a noob and i think this is a great post, no hype.... seems realistic..

THANX!!!

[guan70]

just from this thread i've learnt a lot. thanks to all for contributing!

regards,
stanley