Question for Micro Niche Finder users

BillyPilgrim · 11-13-2009, 03:25 PM

I typed in a phrase in MNF and got a zero for Strength of Competition (SOC) and yet when I do an SEO competition in Market Samurai I see there is no way to compete with the top sites. PR 5s with thousands of back links for domain AND pages. What's the deal with MNF?

BillyPilgrim · 11-15-2009, 07:55 AM

No MNF users here?

diverdown · 12-08-2009, 10:36 AM

Billy - just found your post .... and I need to say I have had the exact same question for the past few months. I wish you had some more feedback to help uncover the answer.

JainJain · 12-23-2009, 07:49 PM

I have come to trust the MOB function from MNF -- more than SOC

Chris Kent · 12-23-2009, 08:02 PM

Which one is the traffic light system? Is that the SOC?

Zeus66 · 12-23-2009, 08:13 PM

I use MNF almost daily. SOC is giving you the big picture, not the Top 10 competition. So yeah, sometimes you'll get a low SOC score but find that the Top 10 is still tough to crack. I use MNF to do preliminary keyword research, then use my own instincts after a Google search, looking at certain aspects of the Top 10. I've passed on many SOC low scores for this very reason. MOB is good, too, but likewise not the end-all be-all, because it's only giving you the median (middle) score, not a really true picture of backlinks and competition. Still, I like it for the speed and the ability to get an initial idea of a keyword's viability. You just don't want to use it exclusively or you might be disappointed more often than not.

JainJain · 12-23-2009, 08:14 PM

Yes, the traffic light is tied to SOC

I tend to consider sites with green lights, then narrow my search based upon low MOB ratings

Dennis Gaskill · 12-23-2009, 08:18 PM

I use it similar to the way Zeus66 does. I'll take the good keywords it finds and do a little extra research on them. I do like the "brainstorm" feature. It comes up with stuff I'd never think of.

greff · 12-23-2009, 08:29 PM

I, too, use MNF frequently. Yours is a good question. I agree with Zeus.

This reminds me of the age old question about which service should we believe about the number of searches. After all is said and done, I tend to trust Google Search Tool more than the others for sheer numbers. I like Zeus's comment about going with your instincts too.

What I'd love to hear is how you guys do your backlink work after you set up your sites.

BillyPilgrim · 01-18-2010, 01:07 PM

The problem is MOB shows a small number of BLs needed when there is a low SOC. Both are wrong! I'm thinking MNF is a piece of crap.

11-13-2009, 03:25 PM	#1
BillyPilgrim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 141 Thanks: 24 Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts	Question for Micro Niche Finder users I typed in a phrase in MNF and got a zero for Strength of Competition (SOC) and yet when I do an SEO competition in Market Samurai I see there is no way to compete with the top sites. PR 5s with thousands of back links for domain AND pages. What's the deal with MNF?

11-15-2009, 07:55 AM	#2
BillyPilgrim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 141 Thanks: 24 Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Question for Micro Niche Finder users No MNF users here?

12-08-2009, 10:36 AM	#3
diverdown Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MD / USA Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Question for Micro Niche Finder users Billy - just found your post .... and I need to say I have had the exact same question for the past few months. I wish you had some more feedback to help uncover the answer.

12-23-2009, 07:49 PM	#4
JainJain Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Question for Micro Niche Finder users I have come to trust the MOB function from MNF -- more than SOC

12-23-2009, 08:02 PM	#5
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12-23-2009, 08:13 PM	#6
Zeus66 John Schwartz War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Near Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 3,691 Thanks: 1,620 Thanked 3,245 Times in 1,140 Posts Social Networking	Re: Question for Micro Niche Finder users I use MNF almost daily. SOC is giving you the big picture, not the Top 10 competition. So yeah, sometimes you'll get a low SOC score but find that the Top 10 is still tough to crack. I use MNF to do preliminary keyword research, then use my own instincts after a Google search, looking at certain aspects of the Top 10. I've passed on many SOC low scores for this very reason. MOB is good, too, but likewise not the end-all be-all, because it's only giving you the median (middle) score, not a really true picture of backlinks and competition. Still, I like it for the speed and the ability to get an initial idea of a keyword's viability. You just don't want to use it exclusively or you might be disappointed more often than not.
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12-23-2009, 08:14 PM	#7
JainJain Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Question for Micro Niche Finder users Yes, the traffic light is tied to SOC I tend to consider sites with green lights, then narrow my search based upon low MOB ratings

12-23-2009, 08:18 PM	#8
Dennis Gaskill Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin, USA. Posts: 4,113 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,405 Thanked 3,422 Times in 1,592 Posts Social Networking	Re: Question for Micro Niche Finder users I use it similar to the way Zeus66 does. I'll take the good keywords it finds and do a little extra research on them. I do like the "brainstorm" feature. It comes up with stuff I'd never think of.
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12-23-2009, 08:29 PM	#9
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01-18-2010, 01:07 PM	#10
BillyPilgrim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 141 Thanks: 24 Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Question for Micro Niche Finder users The problem is MOB shows a small number of BLs needed when there is a low SOC. Both are wrong! I'm thinking MNF is a piece of crap.