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Handy tip for Refund Scammers:

by samstephens
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Are you a refund scammer, and would like to build your thriving scamming business?

Here's my handy tip for the day:

If you've fraudulently requested a refund for a product, fully intending to continue using it, don't email the company you've committed credit card fraud with and demand tech support. It simply brings unwanted attention to your illegal dealings.

Now run free my little pretties, and spread the darkness that matches the colour of your own rotted souls!


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I just had this happen to me - and oddly enough, the person who did it posted a borderline rude demand for attention in my forum. I don't mind this, as sometimes this happens, especially if the person is stressed.

So I invited him to open a support ticket and let me know some extra details so I can handle his request.

He did that, and it turns out part of the problem was he had recieved a refund for the product.

Oops.

He never replied to my invitation to repurchase, though....weird.

cheers
Sam
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    PS. I'm not grumpy, just amused, so thought I'd share
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      Well, you know Sam, they do say that criminals are stupid.

      I guess you just proved that to be true.

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      • Profile picture of the author jedz
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        Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

        Well, you know Sam, they do say that criminals are stupid.

        I guess you just proved that to be true.

        Sylvia
        I definitely agree.
        Stupid scammers.. poor them!
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  • Profile picture of the author SageSound
    That's happened to me several times, too.

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  • Profile picture of the author JMPruitt
    Thanks, I needed a good laugh today. Sounds like some people need to think for themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    One word for that (both a noun and adjective at the same time): DumbAss.
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Sam,

      I regularly buy my own products and immediatley demand a refund. It's become my new business model.

      If I can keep my velocity up so the money comes in faster than the money goes out I'm going to create a WSO that will rock the IM world to its' foundation.

      Wish me luck...

      KJ
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        Sam,

        I regularly buy my own products and immediatley demand a refund. It's become my new business model.

        If I can keep my velocity up so the money comes in faster than the money goes out I'm going to create a WSO that will rock the IM world to its' foundation.

        Wish me luck...

        KJ
        ALAS, it has already been done. Remember that guy that told people how to defeat paypal, and 2checkout? LUCKILY, MANY already countered that, but STILL....

        Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author samstephens
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        Sam,

        I regularly buy my own products and immediatley demand a refund. It's become my new business model.

        If I can keep my velocity up so the money comes in faster than the money goes out I'm going to create a WSO that will rock the IM world to its' foundation.

        Wish me luck...

        KJ
        Genius!

        Be careful, though, that's a fine line to read, my friend: if you get even a sniff of what you're doing, you may find you banning yourself.

        I guess if you end up banning yourself, you could always use the product you stole from yourself, and put up your own website and go into competition, selling your ripped off product for 99 cents on Ebay.

        Actually I'd love to see you start a price war with yourself...
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    Oh well, I hope you made that public, and shut down his forum account. at least he gave you a good laugh!

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    • Profile picture of the author samstephens
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Oh well, I hope you made that public, and shut down his forum account. at least he gave you a good laugh!

      steve
      Heh, actually I'm kind of giving him the benefit of the doubt...I'd hate to jump to a conclusion that isn't quite right. I'm not sure what the alternative would be, though
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Originally Posted by samstephens View Post

    Are you a refund scammer, and would like to build your thriving scamming business?

    Here's my handy tip for the day:

    If you've fraudulently requested a refund for a product, fully intending to continue using it, don't email the company you've committed credit card fraud with and demand tech support. It simply brings unwanted attention to your illegal dealings.

    Now run free my little pretties, and spread the darkness that matches the colour of your own rotted souls!


    ----

    I just had this happen to me - and oddly enough, the person who did it posted a borderline rude demand for attention in my forum. I don't mind this, as sometimes this happens, especially if the person is stressed.

    So I invited him to open a support ticket and let me know some extra details so I can handle his request.

    He did that, and it turns out part of the problem was he had recieved a refund for the product.

    Oops.

    He never replied to my invitation to repurchase, though....weird.

    cheers
    Sam

    Only an idiot would want a refund for DLG
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
      Just a couple of weeks ago I had an email from a guy who openly admitted having bought one of my products and subsequently refunding it. He then went on to demand that I give him the right to translate the product into his own language so he could sell it.

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    • Profile picture of the author samstephens
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      Only an idiot would want a refund for DLG
      Hah, thanks Georg, flattery gets you everywhere!



      I love it when that happens to refunders Sam - I get it once in a while too...makes my day
      I know how you feel! I'm really curious about the first thing that goes through their mind when they get the reply. Oh crap, I've done it again!


      Just a couple of weeks ago I had an email from a guy who openly admitted having bought one of my products and subsequently refunding it. He then went on to demand that I give him the right to translate the product into his own language so he could sell it.
      Heh, that would have been an interesting conversation, Martin!

      I remember a couple of years back I had a guy who bought three copies of my software, did a chargeback for all three, then sold his copies on his own website.

      He went off his nut - "yelling" at me for my slack morals for disabling the software that he bought. He didn't quite understand that doing a chargeback means he's not actually an owner of the product anymore.

      He honestly thought it was his God given right to buy a product, charge it back, and then sell it on his own website for a tenth of the price.

      And just to make it even more interesting, he told all his customers to contact me directly to demand that I re-enable their software.

      It was the most bizzare group of people I've ever dealt with.


      Now I'm not usually one to judge, but to give you an idea of the brains behind these people, the people who were buying his pirate software were then giving testimonials with their website URL's as credit.

      "Thanks dude, I love your pirate software! The police can find me simply by going to my website here...."

      Okay, not quite that bad, but that's essentially what they were saying.

      Whatever happened to natural selection? Charles Darwin has a lot to answer for!
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  • Profile picture of the author milan
    Originally Posted by samstephens View Post

    ...He never replied to my invitation to repurchase, though....weird.
    Sam, I used to reply with with repurchase invitations. I no longer do that, it turns out - that's just more trouble and more time waste. I'm not talking about people who repurchase for different reasons, but specifically about people who wanted the refund for the reasons you talk about.
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