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Old 11-16-2009, 05:32 PM   #51
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Default Re: Listen to me, I am an expert

I once had a Financial Accounting lecturer for my professional exams that knew literally everything about the subject ... every little detail... but too much detail and an extremely poor communicator... result - not good

Then I had another who was not a knowledge expert but communicated within a simple framework but with bite size chunks - blew the exam away and qualified.

It isn't always the depth of knowlege that makes the difference it is how the ideas are communicated... like sales copy

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Old 11-16-2009, 05:54 PM   #52
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hmmm...

I think anyone who has progressed in any industry can see the fakes when they present themselves.

I come from almost 20 years of being a nightclub dj. It's a very trendy thing to be and people make outrageous claims about their skills all the time. It took me years to learn how to perfect skills that included everything from mixing to reading crowds. You can't always be on the edge of a trend! Yet I see guys who buy a laptop and the right software who think that they are 'all that.'

My point it that no one 'makes it' overnight. No one can put up a website on thursday and make $32,394 by friday. Outrageous claims usually are outrageous or untrue. But the sad thing is that people will fall for it all day long.

Here is a TRUE STORY and I can give you company name and website to prove it: I worked as an SEO 'expert' for a company that sold pharmaceutical websites to people via telemarketing. They would buy lists and distribute them to their telemarketers. The telemarketers would bait the people into the promise of making 'thousands' in a few months. Then the person on the other end of the phone would get transferred to a 'closer' who closed the deal. The closer had no idea what the website was. He didn't even have a computer in his office. He was THAT good. These poor people would put $10,000 dollars on their credit cards (no $**#) to get their own website, domain, hosting, etc for the year. They would choose up to 10 keywords and it was my job to 'optimize' the website for said words.

I knew damn well that a cookie cutter affiliate website with no backlinks would never rank in google for things like 'natural viagra.' I wasn't with the company very long as I couldn't bare to be a part of a company promising the world when I knew they couldn't deliver - and they were ripping off people.

My point is that anyone can promise anything and they can charge $7 or $10,000. But when it comes down to it you have to go on your intuition. If someone claims to be an expert, they need to back it up and NOT with photoshopped screenshots of sales records. I can photoshop too...

Experts, to me, are people who have proven themselves in my eyes.

But I often think that the true 'experts' never post here. They don't do WSOs or anything of the sort. They lay low, develop themselves, and keep moving. We will probably never know of them...


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Old 11-16-2009, 09:46 PM   #53
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I read somewhere that an expert is someone with 10,000 hours of experience or something like that.... so maybe we can call someone an expert IM'er if they continually peform $x amount+ for 416 days straight without faulting.

That sounds like a good definition to me.

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Old 11-16-2009, 09:50 PM   #54
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Default Re: Listen to me, I am an expert

I love this thread. What is an expert? Who is an expert? What can I learn?

Maybe instead of looking for experts we can look for teachers or become full time students of the game. I took martial arts for several years off and on. Never consistently and never got into good enough shape to really be "good" at it. Our coach was a world class athlete. A champion fighter. He was also a pretty decent coach but somethings he just couldn't explain. Some moves were so natural for him that he had difficultly breaking it down into smaller steps. Since I had no natural ability, I had to learn it step by step (usually fall by fall). Since I had learned it piece by piece and still had to work at it just to be decent, I was able to help many students get past sticking points.

Was I an expert? By no means. I wouldn't even put myself in the same category as someone who was even remotely good. Did I help people? They thought so as they told me so.

We can learn from everyone. Not everyone's system will work for us because we may not feel comfortable doing it. If it doesn't fit into our core values, we will never succeed at it.

No system will ever replace effort. I won't call it work because if you enjoy it, it rarely is work. Become an expert at LATAR. Learning, Acting, Testing, Analyzing, Repeat

Once you learn to do that, any skill can be learned, any business can be created, any success can be reached.


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Old 11-16-2009, 09:50 PM   #55
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Just because Steven is not an expert at writing novels does not mean he isn't an expert at article marketing or internet marketing!

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Old 11-16-2009, 10:10 PM   #56
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According to my dictionary an expert is: 1. A person with a high degree of skill in or knowledge of a certain subject.

I wonder if that makes me an expert at making martinis.
I'll be the judge of that.

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just give enough other people what they want."
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:12 AM   #57
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....... I come from almost 20 years of being a nightclub dj. It's a very trendy thing to be and people make outrageous claims about their skills all the time. It took me years to learn how to perfect skills that included everything from mixing to reading crowds. You can't always be on the edge of a trend! Yet I see guys who buy a laptop and the right software who think that they are 'all that.' ......
Blur, as someone who practically lives in night clubs all over North America, I love the analogy. The subtleties one learns over the years of doing something can be pretty amazing. Your "reading crowds" comment was dead on. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a DJ get so into his mixing and song choices that he / she totally misses the "vibe" of the crowd.

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I'll be the judge of that.
Lance, I'm sending you a batch.......

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