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Old 11-16-2009, 11:18 PM   #1
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I've been a platinum member at Ezine for a long time. I have 92 articles published and never had a rejection. Until last week. First I had rejections for anchor text exceeding the 3 word limit. Ok I can deal with that one although I don't understand the motivation.

Now I've had 3 articles rejected for the body of the article "Not meeting the promise of the title". I've looked at these articles and have no idea what they're talking about. The titles aren't just keyword stuffed nonsense and either are the articles themselves. I'm totally confused.

I truly wish that their was a directory that could get the article views and clickthroughs that EZA gets. I know that other directories are fine for getting your articles ranked with Google but EZA is still the best for views and clicks.

Has anyone else had this problem with EZA editors lately? What do you advise? Thanks,

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Old 11-16-2009, 11:25 PM   #2
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I advise trying out articlesbase and goarticles. Otherwise, that's just the nonsense you get with ezine sometimes.

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ya they are.One of the errors i get is regarding excessive anchor text.
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Ezine might be strict but they are trying to hold on to the true purpose of writing an article..to give someone TRUE VALUE and not subconsciously spam them you dig

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Old 11-16-2009, 11:58 PM   #5
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IDK about the content. I know they recently changed the Hyperlink to 3 words from 5. Don't know why they did that. I have only had 1 article rejected from them. Some sites I get more traffic from my Ezine articles than I get from the SERPS

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Old 11-17-2009, 12:29 AM   #6
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Wow - you had 92 articles submitted and approved !!! Count your blessings my friend. You're doing great. Don't worry about the 2 or 3 that don't - resubmit and see what happens. I could be an error on their part. Sometimes they get in a hurry - Thousands of articles being submitted daily.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:32 AM   #7
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Ezine might be strict but they are trying to hold on to the true purpose of writing an article..to give someone TRUE VALUE and not subconsciously spam them you dig
Thanks but putting a link in article is not spamming people. Ezine allows you to put links to your site in the resource box, you dig?

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Old 11-17-2009, 12:34 AM   #8
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I think ezine articles may want you to pay to play. They are getting stricter with the approval process. This is a two edged sword. On one side they keep the articles crisp, clean and of a high standard. The other side is they have more money to hire more people to really give each article a focused review.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:39 AM   #9
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Wow. Ezine Articles is raising the bar again. But indeed, relevance is of the utmost importance. Writing for people instead of writing for the search engines.

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yeah it gives me trouble at times!! shooting up such complaints which am unaware of!!

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Only 3 words in a link sucks though, as a lot of great keywords are 4 words long.

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that rule change does suck. but we'll learn to adapt to it.

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Jerry,

its really hard to say why they rejected the article(s) without knowing the article(s). I've observed that acceptance and rejection can highly depend on whoever editor is in charge at a given moment - but (just guessing) it might simply be the case that you offer a solution in your article/title...but the article or the site then doesn't offer exactly that solution.

For example (now just out of my head)..you would write an article somehow stating "This is how you can stop hair loss" - and then in the article only give a overview about several methods and your site might list a few products...but still leaving the general question/solution in the open and not really "solved".

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Send them an e-mail and ask why. Sometimes they get rejected and they shouldn't. I've had that happen before. Also, if it's a how to... article, they want you to say somewhere, This is how you...

Whatever it is, they will tell you every time if you ask them.

It could be a simple case of a new reviewer or missing a simple wording that is getting it rejected.
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They've rejected one of my articles for the same reason recently. I had no idea what's wrong. I modified the title to make it obvious that the article body completely fits the title. After the resubmission the article got rejected again for the same reason.
I'm afraid to try again with this article because now I'm afraid they might ban me

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I've been a platinum member at Ezine for a long time. I have 92 articles published and never had a rejection. Until last week. First I had rejections for anchor text exceeding the 3 word limit. Ok I can deal with that one although I don't understand the motivation.

Now I've had 3 articles rejected for the body of the article "Not meeting the promise of the title". I've looked at these articles and have no idea what they're talking about. The titles aren't just keyword stuffed nonsense and either are the articles themselves. I'm totally confused.

I truly wish that their was a directory that could get the article views and clickthroughs that EZA gets. I know that other directories are fine for getting your articles ranked with Google but EZA is still the best for views and clicks.

Has anyone else had this problem with EZA editors lately? What do you advise? Thanks,

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They have gone really strict. Check out goarticles.com

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Old 11-17-2009, 07:26 AM   #17
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Just try out another article directory.

They've made very clear they don't want IMers using their site, IMO.

Nothing wrong with that, of course - it's a free society and economy, and they can set the rules on their site. Just as we can go elsewhere

GoArticles and ArticleDashboard seem good. Sometimes my GoArticles articles take a little longer to be indexed, but pinging them daily seems to work fine nonetheless.

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I truly wish that their was a directory that could get the article views and clickthroughs that EZA gets.
Doesn't it occur to you that it's precisely because EZA are strict, and getting stricter, that they're able to produce that number of article views and clicksthrough?

If you're interested in maintaining the highest possible number of views and clicksthrough (like I am, as an affiliate marketer), you should welcome these gradually stricter policies by EZA. That's what lies behind the money you're making that way. Try thinking it through from Google's and EZA's perspectives, instead of complaining about the inconvenience. You're talking about EZA as if it's your adversary. If their quality control annoys you so much, stop using them and I'll have your views and clicksthrough, thanks very much.

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Old 11-17-2009, 08:14 AM   #19
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" GoArticles articles take a little longer to be indexed, but pinging them daily seems to work fine nonetheless."

What do you mean pinging them? How do you do this?

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" GoArticles articles take a little longer to be indexed, but pinging them daily seems to work fine nonetheless."

What do you mean pinging them? How do you do this?

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Thanks, I believe my Wordpress blog does it automatically somehow after I fed it a ping list.

What confuses me is how does anyone else know I have pinged or added new content.
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I think these are great changes. Article Directories are meant to be written for human, but we see more and more of articles written for Google. Not to mention the number of articles being rejected on daily basis due to quality.

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@ Alexa Smith Yes I agree, gladly...the added views and clicks are always welcome here.

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Doesn't it occur to you that it's precisely because EZA are strict, and getting stricter, that they're able to produce that number of article views and clicksthrough?

If you're interested in maintaining the highest possible number of views and clicksthrough (like I am, as an affiliate marketer), you should welcome these gradually stricter policies by EZA. That's what lies behind the money you're making that way. Try thinking it through from Google's and EZA's perspectives, instead of complaining about the inconvenience. You're talking about EZA as if it's your adversary. If their quality control annoys you so much, stop using them and I'll have your views and clicksthrough, thanks very much.
Hi Alexa,

I'm not trying to submit crap articles to EZA. I tried to make that clear by saying I'd never had an article rejected until last week. Is using a long tailed keyword of over 3 words spamming? I submitted 4 articles all using 4 word anchor text and 2 were rejected for being over 3 words and the other 2 approved. What???

I have no problem with strict but inconsistent and policy varying from editor to editor, wrong! My articles were never rejected before and EZA was successful then. Where do the strict guidelines end? Banning links to merchants? You may be happy to take our views and clicks but you may find them not all that valuable if this policy of cracking down on article marketers continues.
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@jerryp, agreed.

Eza is ridiculous in its inconsistency.

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Aritclebase is the way forward
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As much of a PITA as they are at times - Stick it out

People are jumping ship left and right and there is more gold there for the rest of us

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If their quality control annoys you so much, stop using them and I'll have your views and clicksthrough, thanks very much.
Alexa, I for one, like it when you get involved in threads like this. Even when you have a differing opinion, you often sway me a bit

Not this time though...

I don't think anyone is complaining about their quality control as much as their lack of consistency.

Today you can submit 300 word articles
Tomorrow you can't
The next day you can

Editor A says your article is fine...then Editor B comes along and says it isn't.

Editor A rejects an article...You resubmit 4 hours later with no changes and editor B approves it.

They is in many cases, very little consistency anymore, which I assume is the cause of much of the frustration.

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Alexa, I for one, like it when you get involved in threads like this. Even when you have a differing opinion, you often sway me a bit
I like it when you do, also - in the same way and for the same reasons, I think.

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I don't think anyone is complaining about their quality control as much as their lack of consistency.
I do see that for many people their lack of consistency appears to be a problem, yes. Won't try to sway you much over this point! They do actually say on their blog that there are many articles already accepted and published which wouldn't be accepted and published today. But I accept that they don't enforce it entirely consistently and that in reality it's apparently subject to the vaguaries and vicissitudes of different editors, and that comes across as being unacceptably random.

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They is in many cases, very little consistency anymore, which I assume is the cause of much of the frustration.
Yes, I accept that there's understandable frustration over this, of course. I do think there are also sometimes some slightly hypocritical reactions perpetuated by people who haven't quite thought it all through and want all the benefits of EZA without being willing to pay the price for them. And those people perhaps shouldn't use EZA, who are after all far from the only game in town. But I can well understand frustrated people not wanting to think about it that way, as well.

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Jerry, I believe your comment to be totally appropriate, (Who am I to say that! lol ) And you are bound to get an answer as Alexa’s initial reply. (No complaints for opposit thinking!) I believe that behind the doors of Ezine a similar happening is also a present reality. Enforcing quality, for which we agree to, is an uphill travel that is hard to coordinate between many people. I would conclude to a wait and see attitude and in the mean time diversify so as not to be too involved with one article site. Let’s hope that Ezine does become a top quality article address and for us with practice to reach for.

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You just have to roll with it or move on IMO. They are relying on humans to review articles and there is an inherent subjectivity that cannot be ignored. So, each individual looks at one thing in different ways. If you do not like it then go to Go Articles or Article Base where there is no human review.

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I recently submitted an article to EZA, and the editor re-worded my keyword phrase using hyphens between the two words, which made it gramatically incorrect... and then published it that way.

I hated to pull the article down (after waiting a week for it to go live), but it was so bad I felt I had to go back in and remove the hyphens. So I pulled the article down, made the changes, and resubmitted... this time it was approved without any changes.

I have to think that not every person that EZA calls an 'editor' is top-notch. I would guess that when I resubmitted, a different 'editor' got ahold of it, and approved it as it was.

I recently submitted another article about TweetGlide that gave a brief description of the product, and a fairly bland overview of how to use it. That article was rejected because EZA said the overview was "excessive sales pitch." Out of disgust, I have not resubmitted this particular article.

EZA is possibly getting a little crazy about things... but some of you may, as I did, have better luck after resubmitting in some cases.
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The new rules are a bit of a pain as much of the work I have done already I now have to go back in and resubmit one by one and rewrite or change links. However with all that said they are good changes that I welcome as it is creating a higher standard.

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Basically the people that are submitting bad articles and spam are making it harder for everyone.

Directories have to be extra strict because of this. It's frustrating sometimes, but that's the way it is...

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Because of the problems I posted above with EZA, and evidently the ones that many of you are having, I've been working on a new idea.

I've been putting together a new site that will be more or less a cross between EZA and About.com .

This site would allow you to post articles like EZA, but, like About, the articles could not be scraped and used by other marketers. You would be allowed one ANCHOR TEXT link in the article, plus one html link at the bottom. These links will be "Do Follow", so they'll be the 'real thing' when it comes to the links you need for your site's rankings.

Submissions on a very specific topic would be limited (probably to one), so if you're the first one to have an article accepted about a very specific topic, you'd pretty much own that topic at this site. For quality control, keyword density would be limited to 4% on your article. The article would also have to be original (I'd use Copyscape and other means to check for this).

And to safeguard against linking to 'bad neighborhoods,' any links in your article have to be to a site that has a PR2 or higher on the index page... you can link to any page in the site, as long as the Index page is PR2 or higher.

I'm a little worried that the site won't index well, because, by nature, it'll be about so many different topics. Plus, the sheer number of outgoing "Do Follow" links I'm allowing will have to pull at the site's rankings. But I still believe that the sheer amount of content this site would have would outrank all that. About.com is about everything under the sun, and that doesn't seem to hurt their ratings.

EZA has lit a fire under me to do something about this. Please let me know what you think. Also, if you have an article that you'd like to submit if/when the site goes live, PM me to let me know.

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Its good IMO that EZA are getting stricter with the articles, making for better quality articles for the ordinary internet user to read..... however, if there is a consistency problem where areticles are being rejected until the 2nd or 3rd attempt which is then when it is approved, then EZA need to look at their own quality checking procedures

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