50 posts to send PM

[twright]

Argue your way to 50 posts, thanks for the idea.

Now to not get banned before you get to 50.

Complete the cycle by agreements and appreciation

you can learn something in every post here I swear

[BIG Mike]

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature. In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

50 posts is not the only solution or necessarily the most effective means to keep out spammers. Why is there no itrader system here? I have been burned already by two members who did not provide the services promised. Allowing members with several positive itraders to use pm could limit spammers and encourage members who are here more to make transactions than chat in the forums.

You want iTrader? Go hang out at Dufus Point - gee, it works so well there.

[Shawn Mason]

Honestly just join the war room, it's worth 10x what it costs.. and you can send all the PM's you want

[mello]

50 posts? Yeah I was a tad narked when it prevented me sending a pm for an offer I wanted to take up - only because it slowed me down. But hey, I'm not as active in IM as I plan to be and Im here when I can be to learn and soak up the wisdom. In the meantime it's easy enough to post about an offer and the marketer will usually pm you to start the conversation.

The 50 post rule actually makes me post and I try to make sure I contribute to the conversations - making members more active is a good thing rather than always lurking.

Overall, not a big issue especially if it adds to the value of the forum. When I'm ready to be more active I'll join the war room and then there's no issue.

[Laura B]

Originally Posted by broker12

You don't see the contradiction in your post? You don't like the feedback system here? The members above would advise you to stop whining, and love it or leave the forum.

You're not even being reasonable. Why don't you take a break, step back, maybe sleep on it, and then come back. I think you'll see that you're being silly.

You may have gotten off on the wrong foot here, but it's not too late to turn that around. It's a forgiving and reasonable bunch of people here.

[raylm123]

Originally Posted by broker12

It seems new members are not appreciated or encouraged here compared to other forums.

As a newer member, I couldn't disagree more with this statement. The amount of highly valuable information and guidance available on this forum for FREE is unparalleled.

The "let's give back to the community" attitude of many of the senior members and most successful marketers is what makes the Warrior Forum a misnomer -- it should be called the Warrior Community because that's exactly what it is. Being a member is a privilege.

Originally Posted by broker12

Why is there no itrader system here? I have been burned already by two members who did not provide the services promised. Allowing members with several positive itraders to use pm could limit spammers and encourage members who are here more to make transactions than chat in the forums.

Seriously???? I've had to file so many paypal disputes with users on an unnamed forum that uses itrader, for taking my money and not providing anything in return. I've never had to file one with a Warrior! itrader is a joke.

[John Taylor]

Originally Posted by broker12

In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

You are totally and absolutely right.

Now go back through this thread and see how
many people support your argument and how
many are in support of the 50 post limit.

It's OK I'll wait while you do the counting...


..OK. Welcome back. :-)

Now are you willing to accept that most of us are
perfectly happy with a rule that makes spamming
us more difficult?

We tend to put the interests of the forum members
first. That's people we know, peole we trust, people
with names.

They are much more important that non-entities and
forum spammers.

John

[Michael Oksa]

And...there could always be NO private messaging system at all.

Also, spending the $37 on a 20 YEAR War Room subscription may keep you from ever having to buy a WSO again, seriously. It's not an expense, it's an investment.

I have no idea which WSOs you are interested in, but a lot of Warriors GIVE away free copies in the War Room.

You mention that your time could be better spent buying WSOs instead of trying to get to 50 posts?!? Seriously? Your time would be better spent making decent posts instead of b**ching all freaking day.

You really have received some excellent advice in this thread, trust me. We were all new here once. I actually got jumped on for trying to give money away. I was miffed, but after a while, I understood. It made sense after I let go of my ego and stopped trying to prove I was right. And I WAS right, but they were right, too...from their perspective.

All the best,
Michael

[tjmiller]

Originally Posted by broker12

Yes I noticed that I am progressing towards 50. Honestly though I feel that my time would be better spent being able to make purchases that support the members offering services. Having the 50 post requirement and 10 messages storage limit impedes that process. I understand the point is to limit spam, but I don't see it as the most effective method.

I really don't see how the 50 post requirement and the 10 message storage limit could possibly impede the process of buying WSO's? I buy WSO's all the time (more than I should probably) and almost never PM during the process. It just isn't necessary.

And as Michael said, the $37 investment in the War Room is well worth it. You do realize that many paid forums are a MONTHLY fee? The War Room is one time, and then those limitations that you have such a problem with are no longer an issue.

[redicelander]

Well, once you get to 50 you won't be complaining anymore. So go make some helpful, useful posts!

But, really, this is probably the number one internet marketing forum on the internet, they can do what they want with it.

[absolutelee]

Honestly, if this forum required 500 posts before you "get your wings", I wouldn't complain. I would just get with the program and start being a part of the community.

Being a member of this forum has meant more to my career as an IM'er than any other single thing I can think of.

Consider yourself lucky to have found us.

[Bill Farnham]

Originally Posted by redicelander

Well, once you get to 50 you won't be complaining anymore.

Well, once this thread is retired to the graveyard and the posts you have made here evaporate don't start a new thread complaining you just lost a bunch of posts.

None of those post were about internet marketing, they were about the internal politics of this forum.

My guess is the only reason this thread lasted as long as it has is the inevitable cropping up of other threads on this topic if this one weren't here. That's a short term situation at best.

KJ

[sbp8610]

Originally Posted by absolutelee

Honestly, if this forum required 500 posts before you "get your wings", I wouldn't complain. I would just get with the program and start being a part of the community.

Being a member of this forum has meant more to my career as an IM'er than any other single thing I can think of.

Consider yourself lucky to have found us.

Agreed.

I've only been here for a short time and the knowledge of this place is completely overwhelming. I've kept a membership to the original site that got me into IM and the forum there is nowhere near what it is here. Even all of the tutorials and guides they offer don't compare to information you can get from this place.

There's so much experience here, people that not only talk the talk but walk the walk, and there willing to take time to give out information that others marketers are paying top dollar for.

[admin]

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

[John Rogers]

Originally Posted by admin

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

Now, that's funny!

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

You are a party pooper!

[Bill Farnham]

Ahhh, poetic justice...the best kind.

Too freakin' funny, Allen.

KJ

[TheMagicShow]

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

You never miss a beat Allen!

[Michael Worthington]

Originally Posted by Elmer Hurlstone

Each and every time I see posts complaining about the TOS and rules here I think of people who buy houses off the end of a preexisting airport runway—and then gripe about aircraft noise.

If you don't like the sound of aircraft overhead don't build, buy or rent a house right off the runway.

If you don't like the conditions on this forum don't join. Membership is not mandatory.

Elmer

I had to laugh when I saw that, Elmer. We're dealing with that
very issue right now!

Pauline and I own the snack bar at the local airport where we
mainly serve food to the skydivers who come out on weekends.

Now, it was a simple grass strip built by the Bass Pecan Company
in the '40s, and graduated to an asphalt runway about 20 years ago.

It was used pretty much exclusively by the Bass company until sometime
in the middle '90s when it became a popular cocaine drop.

When the skydivers made the deal to move here, the owner of the
dropzone made several thousand dollars worth of improvements out
of his own pocket in exchange for a 5 year lease at a dollar a year.

Last year sometime, a lady bought a house directly inline with the
runway and now she's trying to get us shut down because the airplane
scares her horses.

We've been fighting city hall tooth and nail for almost a year now
to stay in operation.
__________________________________________________ _______

Now, regarding the 50 post rule, when I joined this forum in Feb.,2003,
it was a paid forum, period.

I got my membership by virtue of having a Host4Profit account.

Some time later it turned into a free to join forum and the quality
really went downhill for a while. Allen even entertained the thought of
shutting it down at one time.

But now,Allen and his people have done a fantastic job pulling everything
back together and are restoring it to the former glory it once had.

Anybody that doesn't contribute to that restoration isn't going to find
a very warm welcome here.

Michael

[Laura B]

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

You know, I thought he was beating the dead horse a little too long to be a "real" person! I fail to understand how anyone with half a brain cell thinks they can game the system without getting called out eventually, and in this case, sooner rather than later. Good going, Allen.

[Kay King]

broker12....where arrrrre youuuuuu?

schlup!

[GarrieWilson]

Originally Posted by broker12

It seems like most of the more senior members are in support of this rule. You may also consider that genuine new members will also be posting a lot of spam or weak posts just to get to that 50 barrier.

Good. That allows us to more easily remove the people who dont belong.

Also, if I make a purchase from an wso or classified, that supports thosemembers who are paying fees for their listing. Although indirect, that is a financial benefit to the forum.

Use email. There isnt a reason you *need* PMs.

It seems new members are not appreciated or encouraged here compared to other forums.

wah. wah. wah. Then go to them.

[Chris W. Sutton]

Quite honestly, I don't think ANYONE should be allowed ANY privileges until they hit 2,050 posts. It only makes sense!

[rtrotter]

I would say most new users never notice the 50 limit because they are too busy learning from all the great content and getting their questions answered.

[DogScout]

There is so much useful information here, and in fact if not for this forum, my life might have taken much more difficult and precarious turn than it has so far with this forum, that if Allen said no posting unless you were wearing high heels, I'd be wearing high heels! (At least for a while. Lol)

Really don't let the little things get to you or when a big thing comes along (and it always does) it will crush you.

[sande]

This was a question which I was going to ask too. The people to are telling this guy to go somewhere else are not being fair. His/her opinion is 10-15 and the admin is 50. We know which one matters anyway. Let us not be so rude. As you can see I am one of the affected but it is good to know the reason behind it. SPAM.
So I keep posting.....
Grace

[WinsonYeung]

Originally Posted by broker12

I just tried to send a pm and it said I needed 50 posts to do so. This seems like a high requirement. Why is this forum so restrictive?

This is because Allen want to keep this forum as good as possible - get rid of all the spammer that might use warriorforum as a platform.

The 50 post won't affect much if you want to make contribution to the forum

[Rod Cortez]

Hahahahaha! I just read Admin's post! The guy gets called out and he's nowhere to be seen. I knew something was amiss in Kansas.........damn you Allen, my martini went right through my nostrils and now my nose is drunk!!

[TheWealthSquad]

To be honest I wasn't even aware of the PM feature for the longest time after joining. I was too busy absorbing knowledge and seeing some really cool people share a tremendous amount. If you want to talk to someone bad enough you can manage it even without PMs. My first PMs were people asking me for more information. I don't think I have still sent one out first. Kinda like meeting someone for the first time. I have trouble with Hello but am perfectly fine after that :0 50 posts, 100 posts, doesn't really matter to me. Joining the War Room was the best money I have spent in IM. Reading the forum is the best time I have invested in IM Money and time are what you invest to achieve your dreams. If you can't wait to PM.. post your email address.. I am sure you will get plenty of mail

[billspaced]

Love your sig, John!

[billspaced]

Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton

Quite honestly, I don't think ANYONE should be allowed ANY privileges until they hit 2,050 posts. It only makes sense!

Funny, Chris!

[Michael Taylor]

Originally Posted by broker12

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature. In an open forum opinions from all members should be heard and ultimately influence the operations of the forum.

Is your name Dennis?

YouTube - Monty Python- The Annoying Peasant

[Karen Connell]

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

I've been reading this thread since it started - what a great conclusion!

Allen, you have a wicked sense of humor!

Karen

[Paul Myers]

Why is this forum so restrictive?

I don't agree with all the members above who say I should just accept the rules or leave. That sounds pretty authoritarian in nature.

Read this member's posts. The majority are complaints, and not only in this thread.

Here's a little warning, "broker12" : There are only so many broadband providers in any given area, even one as large as SoCal. Even if you're proxying, there's someone who can trace you back to your source. So, the question is, how many providers do you want to have to go through to keep polluting our space?

It is probably in your best interests to forget that the Warrior Forum exists.


Paul

[Paul Myers]

Michael,

Is your name Dennis?

"Help, help! I'm being repressed. Come see the violence inherent in the sysadmin!"


Paul

[Jill Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

I actually got jumped on for trying to give money away.

I might jump ya if you offered to give me money too.

JUST KIDDING FOLKS! (but do let me know if you are giving any away)

Originally Posted by DogScout

... if Allen said no posting unless you were wearing high heels, I'd be wearing high heels!

I like that rule! I may need to send in a support ticket. I want pictures out of the deal as well. Your avatars should be of what your feet look like while posting.

[rosetrees]

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it..........

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

Damn you Allen - I'm laid up with a fluey/cold and that just gave me a serious coughing and spluttering fit. That's the funniest thing I've read for ages. I see you cracked and banned him after 35. The show's over guys. Ah well.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Almost 3 years ago, a friend of mine from another forum where I was a
moderator said to me, "Hey Steve, I know you like it here, but you really
should go on over to the Warrior Forum. They've got some really great
people over there and I think you could contribute a lot."

I had never even heard of the Warrior Forum until that day. There I was,
almost 4 years marketing online and didn't even know this place existed.

Gives you an idea of what a small world I lived in.

Well, my first day I decided I was going to contribute...a lot. I went through
as many threads as I could where people had questions and answered them.
And I'm not talking about a couple of sentence answers either. I'm talking
some long ass winded posts.

I made 80 of them that day.

I was almost run out of here on a rail.

Why am I telling you this story?

You may think that 50 posts is a lot. It's not. Any wing ding with way too
much time on his hands (like me) can make 50 posts.

But please take my advice as somewhere who has been there, done that,
paid the price for it, and learned a painful lesson the hard way.

DON'T MAKE THEM ALL IN ONE DAY!

There are a lot of people here whose respect I could have earned but I
blew it on that very first day. It won't matter if I'm a member here for
20 years. Once you screw up, it lives with your forever.

I am telling you this as a friend. Obey the rules, deal with them, and
become a respected and valuable member of this community. If you do
that, you will find that there will be a lot of people here who would sooner
do business with you than me.

With my 13,000 plus posts.

Posts are nothing. They are meaningless. But a spammer won't take the
time to make them. They're just interested in making a quick score and
getting out of Dodge. Thus, the post requirements, as well as other things
here, are put into place.

You may not like it. But the rules are there to keep this forum from turning
into Digital Point and all the other forums out there that aren't worth
going to anymore.

One day, you'll thank me for this post.

Maybe not today or tomorrow...but someday.

When you kept from making the same stupid ass mistakes that I made.

Welcome to the Warrior Forum.

[JohnMcCabe]

Originally Posted by sande

This was a question which I was going to ask too. The people to are telling this guy to go somewhere else are not being fair. His/her opinion is 10-15 and the admin is 50. We know which one matters anyway. Let us not be so rude. As you can see I am one of the affected but it is good to know the reason behind it. SPAM.
So I keep posting.....
Grace

Grace, there's a big difference between simply asking a question and throwing a hissy fit and calling the admin stupid. Then he continued flogging his point beyond reasonable curiosity.

You, on the other hand, seem to be a lady of good sense and manners. Keep contributing - you're very welcome here as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

I like that rule! I may need to send in a support ticket. I want pictures out of the deal as well. Your avatars should be of what your feet look like while posting.

I'd probably have something with an open toe. It would serve you right...

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by admin

The funny thing about this thread is this "person" is the spammer that caused this new 50 post rule, and he is in here bitching about it.

LOL! Talk about ironic.

He created hundreds of names and every single one of them had numbers after them - every one - just like broker12...

I have no doubt you are the spammer who now cries because your spam tool you just bought sucks and doesn't work.

If this wasn't so funny I would have already banned you but I'm going to wait a little while. Probably when you hit post 49...LOL!

I wish I had read this before I had replied to that idiot trying to get him
to be a valuable member of this community.

To the OP...please disregard my previous post. It was obviously meant
for somebody who doesn't drag his arms on the floor and eats bananas
all day long.

Boy, now don't I feel like a dope.

[Wakunahum]

Surely you could come up with a series of legitimate questions to ask people. There are experts on the forum who are willing to help you.

I don't even think I knew the PM feature existed till I was well past 100 posts because I spent time asking questions on subjects I wasn't sure about.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Wakunahum

Surely you could come up with a series of legitimate questions to ask people. There are experts on the forum who are willing to help you.

I don't even think I knew the PM feature existed till I was well past 100 posts because I spent time asking questions on subjects I wasn't sure about.

And that's another thing. Why would you even have to PM somebody? In
the 3 years I've been here, aside from answering the insane number of PMs
I get, I may have initiated 3 PMs in 3 years.

I mean what's so darn important that you have to PM another person?

If it's about a WSO, post the question in the thread itself.

Other than that, if you want to nag somebody about a JV, how about
doing some research on the person, finding their email address and
write to them personally?

Hell, if they took the PM function out of this forum, I wouldn't even care.

Strike that...I'd jump for joy.

[Andie]

Originally Posted by jazbo

Spam, spam, spam spam. Once you have received a few PM's from "SEO Experts" offering their services you will understand.

Jazbo -- I love that Spam song!!

[Lisa Gergets]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DogScout
... if Allen said no posting unless you were wearing high heels, I'd be wearing high heels!

I like that rule! I may need to send in a support ticket. I want pictures out of the deal as well. Your avatars should be of what your feet look like while posting.

Hey Jill, wanna JV on an info product on how to get rid of bunions? We'll be RICH!!!

[ShaneRQR]

PM sent.

(Just kidding.)


I bet many people don't even know the 50 posts before PM rule because they don't try to send PMs anytime before they hit 50 posts anyway.
I would have not known about it, were it not for this thread.

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

And that's another thing. Why would you even have to PM somebody? In
the 3 years I've been here, aside from answering the insane number of PMs
I get, I may have initiated 3 PMs in 3 years.

I mean what's so darn important that you have to PM another person?

If it's about a WSO, post the question in the thread itself.

Other than that, if you want to nag somebody about a JV, how about
doing some research on the person, finding their email address and
write to them personally?

Hell, if they took the PM function out of this forum, I wouldn't even care.

Strike that...I'd jump for joy.

[Fox30]

Sign up as a War Room member and you shouldn't have any restrictions. Not to mention the fact that it is an invaluable resource.

[XRevJosh]

I agree it doesnt take that long to get 50 post count and this most deff. rules out the spammers.

[Jwest]

Yes I do agree it keeps the spammers out!! However I am a newbie and I really dont have much to offer in the way of advice, strategies, or WSO. I basically am on here reading, learning, and bought a few WSO's. It would be nice to PM the once in a while for just a question. So not sure how I will get my 50 posts ? How much does it cost to be a member, I had trouble finding that info. Thanks

[Bhaskar Jain]

Well, rules are rules and they are in place to stop spammers and make this forum run effectively.

I agree with you... yeah, 50 seems to be a huge amount of posts but when you gel along with the community and start contributing, you'd see your post count going up in like a flash!

[TheWealthSquad]

Originally Posted by Jwest

Yes I do agree it keeps the spammers out!! However I am a newbie and I really dont have much to offer in the way of advice, strategies, or WSO. I basically am on here reading, learning, and bought a few WSO's. It would be nice to PM the once in a while for just a question. So not sure how I will get my 50 posts ? How much does it cost to be a member, I had trouble finding that info. Thanks

If you have a question, ask it in the forum. This will accomplish two things. It will get your post count up and it will get you far more information than you imagine.

Cost is $37 to join the War room.. not $37 a year but $37 for 20 years. Less than a cup of coffee a year. Less than the change you can find on the street every day. The best deal WSO you will ever find.