OH BOY! Google's at it AGAIN...

[tecHead]

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

Brought to you by: With Chrome OS, Google Intends to Destroy the Desktop and Microsoft

[Victor.L]

I am just waiting for the day I will see ''Restaurants and Hotels owned by Google'' or The United States of Google. They just don't stop.

[halibuth]

I wouldn't be surprised if the world is eventually run by Google. I think they're in a silent mission for world domination LOL.

[Scott Ames]

No.. I don't want it. I like having my stuff on my own machine. I want to created PDF's and use Camtasia, and etc etc. I don't want Google to hold all my stuff hostage if they decide to.

[GeorgR.]

"destroy microsoft", sounds good for a start...

But i have a bad feeling about it. When Google does something, it's usually GOOD.
Google is already a monster company - and now they seem to go for total PC/Internet domination?

Yep, here we go:

The result of its Chrome OS bet will directly affect the fate of computing, the operating system, and the web.

Monopolies are BAD, either way. And this COULD be major because it goes exactly in the right direction - logical step up from "Web2.0". Google is SMART, they have the brains and the budget. I think MS has reason to be scared, very scared.

[sweetfranky]

For some reason I'm imagining a hippy looking guy explaining this concept using lots of hand gestures... Good find though. We all have a fun future to look forward to.

[Paul Hancox]

Yeah, just think... all your stuff is on the Internet... and then you somehow lose access to... the Internet.

Oops.

[Michael Worthington]

Originally Posted by Paul Hancox

Yeah, just think... all your stuff is on the Internet... and then you somehow lose access to... the Internet.

Oops.

Exactly!

I may try it on a separate computer at some point,
but I'll never willingly give up my XP Pro!

Michael

[jaybaker]

I agree with havoc. At the rate that the big G is going there is soon to be next gen hotels totally wired from top to bottom with everything branded Google... Thats a scary thought...

[Adway]

Bad idea for a complete replacement. Maybe something to work with but nothing more.

Is there any online company currently bigger than Google? or in other words, profiting more than Google?

[tecHead]

Back in 2007... Bill Said..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCvLTlQWT6A

::right around 5:14 is where you hear his response to "today"

As a power user, I tend to agree. What we're seeing Google talk about with Chrome OS is more end-user centric; as opposed to what we do when we're putting UP those web apps and sites and videos that Google OS makes it easy to view.

Distributed cloud processing power will (more than likely -- unless Cisco finds a way to distribute individual mini-personal-clouds) never be capable of the processing power needed to compile video -- manipulate graphics -- create 3D -- build Flash apps -- and what about FTP?

The traditional desktop centric OS on the computer will never go away; streamline maybe.. but never go away.

Just my 2¢

[Eric Lorence]

I have a problem with ANY company attempting to gain so much power ...

Not to mention the drones who would be so excited about it.

And how is this any different from the "mainframe" concept championed by IBM and others - and ultimately doomed to failure?

[mbenton]

Who wants to have everything stored somewhere besides their own hard drive?

Don't forget, Big Brother is definitely watching, and anything you store online can and will be used against you...

I don't see this as a good thing or as something that will become popular.

[Andrew Maule]

Cloud computing will fizzle out--Skynet anyone?

Chrome OS is going to be about as big as Chrome and Knols.

[KenS]

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

"destroy microsoft", sounds good for a start...

But i have a bad feeling about it. When Google does something, it's usually GOOD.
Google is already a monster company - and now they seem to go for total PC/Internet domination?

Yep, here we go:

Monopolies are BAD, either way. And this COULD be major because it goes exactly in the right direction - logical step up from "Web2.0". Google is SMART, they have the brains and the budget. I think MS has reason to be scared, very scared.

Yeah I agree. That's they reason I was hoping the Yahoo/Microsoft merger was going to go through. Google is powerful enough aplenty. Don't get me wrong, I use lots of google services and I love all the free stuff they hand out, but like other people here, I'm wary of anyone or any company with too much power. A multipolar world is much better for all of us.

ken

[mywebwork]

As an "old timer" I find a lot of this discussion amusing - it's history repeating itself again.

In the early days of personal computing (i.e. 1981) IBM was the giant. The personal computer market was indeed started by them, sure we had Apple II's and Commodore 64's and Radio Shack TRS 80's (affectionately called the "Trash 80") but the IBM PC was what made people look up and take this new trend seriously.

Back then it was common to bash and abuse IBM at any opportunity - they were the giant corporation, dictating how things would work on a platform whose first name was "Personal". Buying a non-IBM computer and using non-IBM software became all the rage. Anything that went against "Big Blue" was in fashion.

The anti-IBM sentiment was largely responsible for the meteoric rise of another company, a software firm in the Pacific North west called "Microsoft". Ironically they got their big break when their operating system (PC DOS) was chosen by IBM as the OS for their new personal computer. They collaborated with IBM on the OS 2 project and then split up,taking their code to create Windows NT in the 1990's. Microsoft stuff was cool, it's networking was simpler than Novell's and it's software products were quickly adapted as standards by businesses around the globe. Microsoft was not IBM, and we loved them for that.

Flash forward to the turn of the century - the Internet is growing rapidly and Microsoft was starting to see it's hold on the #1 position vanish. Internet Explorer was competing fiercely with Netscape and an online application, the search engine, is becoming more mainstream. Anti-Microsoft sentiments were now common, the rapid acceptance of Windows 95 & 98 was now soured by Windows ME. And some cool new online companies were rising from the ashes of the dot-com bust and making a name for themselves. One of these companies was Google.

Remember when we first saw Google? It wasn't the first search engine (Lycos was around at the beginning of the Web and Yahoo already was there) or the prettiest, but it was cool. The results were fast and bang on accurate. And they kept coming out with cool new things - the allowed you to use their technology on your site to build your own search facility, they brought us Google Maps and then became the number one player in PPC advertising with AdWords and AdSense.

And now today we see Google as the Giant, "Big Brother" as some have commented. Their hold on our data frightens us more than the control that banks, credit bureaus and governments have on our information. Interestingly no one seems to concerned about using their mail service - the same people who cry "Big Brother" are quite happy to have GMail, HotMail and other services manage all of their personal and confidential e-mail information.

It will be very interesting to see how this all turns out, and who the next maverick company will be, the one that wrestles Google out of the number one position. No doubt we will cheer them on, and then live in fear of them a decade later.

Sorry if the above is considered a rant,and it isn't meant to be pro or anti Google. I just experience a sense of deja-vu whenever the "Big Brother" alarm is raised!

Bill

[Jonathan1980]

I don't think there is nothing to worry about or be scared of. The future will be awesome (unless 2012 happens), there will be many options to choose from and even if Google controlls the world, it won't be against any of it's users will. Google serves us and it has to follow rules.

Nothing to worry about... Like I said, the future is going to be awesome...

[sbp8610]

The price of the Chrome OS based machines should be really cheap since the Chrome OS software is going to be free, and netbook manufactures won't have to pay for Microsoft software to put on there netbooks.

[garyv]

Originally Posted by Jonathan1980

I don't think there is nothing to worry about or be scared of. The future will be awesome (unless 2012 happens), there will be many options to choose from and even if Google controlls the world, it won't be against any of it's users will. Google serves us and it has to follow rules.

Nothing to worry about... Like I said, the future is going to be awesome...

You most likely won't know what they're doing, so you can never know whether it's against your will or not. Already they scrape personal emails for their own adwords/adsense data. In other words, they're reading your personal emails, and sending you ads based on what you're talking about in your email.

While I'm sure they've covered their bases with their legally worded TOS upon signup, I'd be willing to wager that if people knew that Google was keeping such close tabs on their personal emails, that many would never have signed up for an account.

[Traffic_Is_King]

Did you guys see the video where Matt Cutts announced Google will start changing title tags without your approval. Yep! If they feel your website title tags doesn't benefit the user in their search experience, they will change it to what they think the user will benefit from. That is crazy!

[Marian Berghes]

In my personal opinion Chrome OS is a total piece of crap.

there are some major issues that I can bet will make Chrome OS very un-popular.

First of all it will only work on certain machines, idk who will buy another laptop or netbook just so they can run chrome os.

Second, you need a SSD on that machine...witch atm they are somewhat expensive.

Plus there is also the fact that the OS will only be useful if you are connected to the internet 95% of the time that you are using it.

Also, if Google starts to really get alot of users on every one of their products, I can bet that the EU will sue them because they are "presenting a monopolistic behavior" that is against the anti-trust laws or whatever they are called. Just look at Microsoft lol...EU is always suing them.

[Steven Fullman]

Originally Posted by Jonathan1980

I don't think there is nothing to worry about or be scared of. The future will be awesome (unless 2012 happens), there will be many options to choose from and even if Google controlls the world, it won't be against any of it's users will. Google serves us and it has to follow rules.

Nothing to worry about... Like I said, the future is going to be awesome...

Yeah...

Tell THAT to the folks who've had their Google Accounts disabled...with no means to reinstate them

I don't mind Google holding my mail...it's convenient, and I only use them as as a pass-through anyway.

But all my data? Indexed. Profiled. And packaged up as a *benefit to me*?

Screw that!

"Your account has been suspended due to a violation of our terms and conditions. Ha Ha. We appreciate your concerns, but your data is now ours. Remember: Don't be evil"

No thanks.

Steve

[Edge88]

Once google owns "the internet" it will then proceed to release its top secret product: lightning fast Internet access for the whole wolrd. and now they run the internet, and you have to pay them to access it too.

actually, it wouldnt surprise me if they really are working on some project to become internet providers .

[Fox30]

Google is Skynet!!!!! Watch out for judgment day people!

[Marty S]

Chrome OS is still targeted at those laptops which are used just for the internet. You know those little netbooks? So in that sense the application makes sense. This is not aimed at replacing your desktop.

[James Sorelly]

Google owns already an Earth he-he! GOOGLE EARTH FOREVER!

Originally Posted by havoc21392

I am just waiting for the day I will see ''Restaurants and Hotels owned by Google'' or The United States of Google. They just don't stop.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Well, I guess since I'll never use it, I have nothing to worry about.

I may not love my PC, but it sure beats not being able to access your data
because Google decides to have a hissy fit.

No thanks.

[mojojuju]

If you're interested in being bored to tears, you can download a VMWare image of this Chrome OS from Download Google Chrome OS for free - gdgt

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by tecHead

The traditional desktop centric OS on the computer will never go away; streamline maybe.. but never go away.

Tell me about it. Does anyone else remember VAX clusters?

VMScluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"...each machine runs its own copy of OpenVMS, but the disk storage, lock manager, and security domain are all cluster-wide..."

I mean, WTF? This is 1983 technology we're talking about here - more than a quarter of a century later!

As though it's NEW!

Wait, wait, wait. Remember the Network Computer and NetPC ideas? They came out in like 1996. Same basic concept, same stupid problems, no solution in sight.

And back up to 1970, when the mainframe stored and processed everything, and the only thing you had on your desk was a dumb terminal to display the interface.

Crap, this stupid idea surfaces every 13 years like clockwork.

Mark my words: the idea will fail again, and then in 2022 somebody ELSE will start making noise about it.

[reapr]

Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_King

Did you guys see the video where Matt Cutts announced Google will start changing title tags without your approval. Yep! If they feel your website title tags doesn't benefit the user in their search experience, they will change it to what they think the user will benefit from. That is crazy!

If true how would this not violate anti trust laws and in some ways be akin to price fixing!!! Think for a moment how this could be very similar to price fixing!

Google syndicate at it again my knuckles already feel busted up on this one ..

[DogScout]

Actually having all the apps on-line and NOT installed was Bill Gates original vision in 1979. The trouble was, there was not the ability to have a quick enough connection nor enough computing power at an affordable price.

Google is merely instituting Gate's old vision. Today, Goggle is more like what Gates envisioned Microsoft to be than Microsoft. MS's trouble is they compromised by going the PC app installed route. That lead to more and more powerful machines.

Now, you can buy a 'netbook' for $50 (or free with a 2 year contract) that does all it's computing through cloud computing on line. The netbook itself, holds hardly anything, it doesn't need to.

Think about it, with Google docs and eveything Google has come out with for years, other than chrome, they are all on-line apps. It spells trouble, anything that gets this big, and then controls that much information smells of Armageddon! I don't think I'll ever get a netbook, (though I do have to go to San Diego for 3 weeks and my laptop is 10 years old and slow as molasses and I do have copies of just about everything somewhere on line... so I might!)

Instead of putting everything on line, I hear you can install to a removable hard drive and then plug it into any computer and use the apps on it. Seems a whole lot safer. Not sure how much of a pain it is. Sometimes I think it is either that or having a Google chip implanted in my brain!

Oh woe is us

[reapr]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Tell me about it. Does anyone else remember VAX clusters?

VMScluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"...each machine runs its own copy of OpenVMS, but the disk storage, lock manager, and security domain are all cluster-wide..."

I mean, WTF? This is 1983 technology we're talking about here - more than a quarter of a century later!

As though it's NEW!

Wait, wait, wait. Remember the Network Computer and NetPC ideas? They came out in like 1996. Same basic concept, same stupid problems, no solution in sight.

And back up to 1970, when the mainframe stored and processed everything, and the only thing you had on your desk was a dumb terminal to display the interface.

Crap, this stupid idea surfaces every 13 years like clockwork.

Mark my words: the idea will fail again, and then in 2022 somebody ELSE will start making noise about it.

Dang dewd ... flashback city. The 60's were a little too good.

[JeffLam]

For more videos on Google Chromium OS, check out this url:

Google Chrome OS: Ditch Your Hard Drives, the Future Is the Web | Gadget Lab | Wired.com))

Quite cool stuff IMO.

However, like what everyone is worrying about: what if the internet is down?

What if you brought your laptop to a place with no Wifi?

Can the laptop play video games..?

[J Bold]

Chrome is old news, man. And why should they (Google) stop if they can make something better? I don't like Google in every aspect but I'm using Chrome right now and it's my new browser of choice. It's even better than Mozilla Firefox, which is still a great browser, by the way. But it crashes less than firefox and of course way less than Internet Explorer, and it's faster and lighter. I honestly hope nobody in Warrior Forum is ignorant enough to still be using Internet Explorer! It's the worst browser out there, no matter how much Microsoft likes to talk it up.

As I know this topic is about the OS, well, I am still wary of that, but I will keep watching for now.

[Ken Snowdon]

I wouldn't be surprised if David Spielberg, Google and the new series "v" are one in the same. Beam me up Scotty before the Googleman gets me.

[Slaughter]

I think Chrome OS will not make it. With "stuff" like Windows and Mac, there is no place for Chrome.

[Marian Berghes]

Google will get some market share be sure about that, simply because its google and it will get alot of press on the matter.

There are other os-es like this, ex: Jolicloud witch in my opinion looks WAY better then chrome os but because they don't have the "marketing dollar" that google has almost nobody knows about them.

[GeorgR.]

The concept is indeed VERY old.

I remember talking about such things already years ago when JAVA came out, there was talk about a JAVA OS which would have totally eliminated a conventional desktop and OS as we know it and would have worked the same way.

There is indeed a tendency to "centralize" all what we currently call "web2.0", because its just overwhelming and too man sites....people have a zillion web2.0 bookmarking, community and facebook, hubpages whatever sites. The logical step is to have all this in a central place without having to hop 100s of sites.

And google knows this and i "fear" it could indeed become big.

[tecHead]

One thing I think (most) everyone seems to be overlooking is the fact that we are marketers and from a marketer's perspective; (just like replacing traditional eMail lists with RSS feeds was frowned upon by marketers due to a sense of lost 'control'); a cloud centric OS is a big no-no.

BUT, from a CONSUMER's viewpoint... this is a very smart, workable AND beneficial (to marketers) idea.

No, its not a new idea but the available technology is new. But, that's kinna how life changing innovation works, isn't it? Remember webTV? Have you seen the latest interactive cable commercials?

IMHO, one of the barriers of entry for the average consumer has been the complexity; (what we as power-users and marketers view as simplistic); of the computer system, itself. You really can't just go out and buy a computer and turn it on and "be safe", these days (could you ever?).

• Which OS?
• What software?
• What eMail?
• Anti-virus?
• Cache?
• What browser?
• Download what?!

All of these things prevent our potential clients from finding and purchasing our wares; think about it. By the time the consumer jumps through all these hoops just to read their eMail and/or hook up with their friends online, any infiltration by a 'marketer' isn't very well received.

IF it were a no brainer getting to what the consumer wants to get to, perhaps commercialism would be better received. Like how when you turn on your TV, its just 'there'. Think about it.

From one perspective, those that DO find us now, (the way things are), are definitely determined to purchase; yet, at the same time those are the ones that are also savvy enough to know what an affiliate URL is and how to circumvent it.

From this perspective, I tend to support the cloud centric OS. I don't see Google having a monopoly, either; as Chrome is simply the platform... its not mandatory that you/we use their software, (just convenient).

Again, just my 2¢
PLP