"Why Don't You Get a Job?"

14 years ago

You seem to be a decent writer. Better than the monkeys I see out there, at least. I've had great success selling my article writing services here; you might try that. At $5 to $10 an article, you can pull in at least $50 a day. There's no end of demand for writers.

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J Bold

14 years ago

Yes, especially since the economy is so good now and everyone is hiring (rolls eyes).

What skill do you want to use on elance? You can use the Warrior for hire section here and offer your services to other Warriors. I have heard a lot of people talk about this as a great way to get started if you have some needed skill to offer to other marketers.

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Ehanson 14 years ago

Warriors for Hire is an idea I've been thinking about. How much is it to post there? $37 or $19? Can't remember.

As for Elance I would offer mostly writing, graphic design and creative services.
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- CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Ehanson
  
  How much is it to post there? $37 or $19? Can't remember.
  
  $20. WSOs are $20 plus you have to be a $37 member of the War Room to post them.
  
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  Jill Carpenter 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  $20. WSOs are $20 plus you have to be a $37 member of the War Room to post them.
  
  Actually, you don't have to be a war room member to post in the classifieds.
  
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  CDarklock 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by avenuegirl
  
  Actually, you don't have to be a war room member to post in the classifieds.
  
  That's why I said WSOs are $20 and you have to be a WR member. :p
  
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Steve Powers

14 years ago

I think you'd better first get a regular job so that your parents will not worry about you.And then do things you are interested in your spare time.If you are sure they are profitable and valuable and can be your further career,then quit your job and devote to it.I mean that,you need funds before you start something and also need think it carefully before you start.

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Forest_Parks 14 years ago

Jobs suck but a Part time job may do some good.... I know it sounds dumb but sometimes we need the boring ass hateful job to push us in our IM careers... I was working in a kitchen for a brief period when I started mine. I am a graphic designer by trade but had moved to French Quebec, didn't know French and needed a break from the Graphics Industry anyhow!

I now work full time online but it took a while to get here and I actually quit my job too early so really struggled for a while.
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gg282

14 years ago

In the last job I had, I met to guys who were also into IM, one was trying to build up his adsense income, the other was trying to sell an ebook he wrote. So if you do end up working a part time job you never know who you might meet. Might be an opportunity to network.

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Lance K

14 years ago

Buy Kenneth Rearden's article writing WSO.

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-articles.html

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ehanson

If not what are people's experience's with Elance? Wouldn't I need to put together a portfolio for that?

Elance is the most expensive freelance service for freelancers. Offshore providers consistently lowball projects so be prepared to practically give your services away, while paying for each proposal you send out.

You would need a portfolio and a very good one at that. There's a lot of talent on Elance. I gave it up because I refuse to do a Corporate Identity Package for $50.

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Jason Moffatt

14 years ago

You gotta cut the umbilical cord at some point.

Screw what your parents say.

Probably time to move out of their house too. You are a adult after all.

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Peter.Anthony 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt

You gotta cut the umbilical cord at some point.

Screw what your parents say.

Probably time to move out of their house too. You are a adult after all.

Listen to Jason. Do Not get a job. There is nothing like a 9 to 5 gig to suck the life out of you, slowly but surely, one day at a time. Some others mentioned writing articles. This is a great way to earn some cash while learning the magic of online marketing.
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Andie

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ehanson

This is a rant, a request and a statement of a goal.

In these times it's especially hard to get just an interview. Despite making a part time income online (selling my music and adsense for those wondering) my parents are convinced I will not be able to make enough to support myself and are telling me I need to get back to working at a "regular job." I don't know why they think this as I paid nearly my entire tuition with IM money this semester. And that was all made in a little over a month too.

So, inspired by Bryan Kumar's great post I've set a personal goal to get a job and make about $50 a day by Dec 1st- all made from online jobs that is.

Anyone have any odd jobs they don't want to do or don't have time to do?

I'm serious. My parents don't think money can be made any other way than the lottery or a paycheck. I've had regular jobs and would choose IM over them especially after an experience with a layoff. I can either continue to spend an hour or two sending out resumes everyday or spend that time making extra money everyday.

If not what are people's experience's with Elance? Wouldn't I need to put together a portfolio for that?

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I don't know your age, but from the viewpoint of a 'parent'

I have a daughter, soon to be 19, grad HS in June. Very creative/intelligent person. She is a product of the electronic age and pretty darn anti-social personality.
For a while I harped about a job. I lost my own back in March and said 'no more rat race'. I know there is $ to be made online. When her job-hunt wasn't being fruitful, I moved to pushing/encouraging her to really try to start doing some graphic design jobs online. She is more than capable and really very talented.
She started putting in the effort, hooked up with a girl already doing it who took her under her wing. She just got her second 'paycheck' through pay pal. Works for me.
Sometimes having the results is what it will take to convince. She stays up all nite and sleeps all day. If it works for her that is fine as long as she is planning on achieving some self-sufficiency and being a responsible adult. (after being a pretty spoiled child for 18 yrs~)

Andie

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bgmacaw

14 years ago

Your parents asked me to post this...

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

My advice is to consider a job a stream of income. If you need the money, get the job. If you don't, don't worry about it.

Where it becomes tricky is if you're just "getting by" on IM income but have no extra cash to invest in expansion without going into substantial and risky debt. In that case, having a job, the right job with the right income and flexibility, will allow you to have the extra money to cash flow your expansion. Of course, the other alternative is to cut your living expenses to the bone, no eating out, no partying, etc. and reinvest that way.

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JSnow

14 years ago

Good topic. I recommend two things at this point. Move out of the house, it is time... And second do not invest what you cannot afford to loose. By meditating on these two simple things, your path will begin laying itself out before you.

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loenex

14 years ago

I guess you do both-having a regular job and your online job so that you and your parents will be happy. It's just a way of time management.

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skorpion

14 years ago

Ehanson, if you truly want to make this IM thing work I would just make a plan and make it work. Personally, I wouldn't get a job if that not what you want.

Too easy to get sucked back into the employee mindset and become a drone of the man!!! Make IM work for you! Expand int other areas of IM, dont just focus on one area.

And most importantly, dont listen to your parents. They dont support you because they dont understand what you are doing. When you can prove to them what you are doing is profitable then their POV will change and support you 100%.

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paulie888

14 years ago

I think you should soldier on and work on one stream of IM income, once you get that up and running then start diversifying into other areas as well. What you'd ideally want is several streams of IM income that will provide you fairly consistent overall income so that you can feel that you're actually able to *live" off of your IM efforts. Since you're living at home presently, I'd imagine that your expenses are fairly low. Give it your all and really concentrate on building a consistent income through IM. If you can do that fairly quickly, you'll quickly see your parents' ranting and raving dissipate...

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Intrepreneur 14 years ago

Enhansen I agree with CDarlock. You can write well and if you can find a way to promote your writing services effectively you will find an easier route to a consistent income.

If you do try this always ensure you've got a plan B.

If you want to create a portfolio it can be difficult so what I would do instead is create a Job Resume.

You can find many templates online for creating an effective Resume that matches the industry. Especially recommened is Microsofts massive resource but you will need Microsoft Word for these.

I'd also say to keep this thread rolling with more helpful replies you could add in some of your interests to help everyone see what matches up with them.
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- genietoast 14 years ago
  
  Babe, if it's working for you, you have nothing to prove.
  
  My Dad wanted me to work for the secret service after I quit a former government job. No thanks.
  
  Naysayers will always abound. Keep doing what you're doing. You just politely render it off.
  
  Nobody's called me back from the job fair. Guess they weren't interested.
  
  Oh, well.
  
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Tmilli

14 years ago

Elance is a great place to start. Try Guru as well. Get on those sites and get aggressive! go after every job you feel you can fill and offer a low price and bust your ass to get the job done. You will quickly build a good reputation and get a high rating on these sites. Get serious and go hard!

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kevinfar

14 years ago

Internet marketing, like any other job, requires persistence in the beginning. However, when that initial phase is over, and you truly understand what you are doing, then you will definately been in a better situation than you would have been had you taken a regular job.

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buildblog 14 years ago

I'm a parent of twenty year olds and wanting them to get a job is the 'safe thing'. We want them to be happy.

Since my son was 16, he's played on-line poker. He worked part-time, went to college and played poker on-line in the evenings. He lost about $500. We banned him from using the internet!

He then started going around his friends to play. Lost another $200. We were not happy.

Eventually he became 18, got a job and played on-line again.

He's now 20. He works 30 hours a week and at other times he plays poker.

Last year, he had 3 holidays, purchased a car, flat-screen TV, laptop and has $10k in his bank - all from poker.

What point am I trying to make?

You parents are only thinking of you. They want you to be happy, have a steady job, have money and enjoy life.

Perhaps meet them half-way and get a part-time job?

Andrew
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Profit-smart

14 years ago

For freelancers-Do what I did!

If your a writer, write up a sample; run off a bunch of flyers.

If your a designer, buy a case of blank cds and burn your portfolio onto each-Stick these to flyers.

Then pay a bunch of friends (or just get them to help out) and put them everywhere you can think of. (I dont mean on walls and stuff, I mean in stores and shops with freebie bins etc.)

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revenue4u

14 years ago

There are ways to earn money even in hard times. I see you are in a major city. Christmas is coming and the stores hire extra help at this time. Look at temporary work if necessary. Visit Employment Services and tell them you are getting desparate. Take what you can get while continuing to send resumes for your dream job. Work your IM in your spare time, nights, weekends, etc. while building it into a replacement for your regular income. When your IM money is stable and matches your regular paycheck. Make the switch. Stay with your parents until you can afford to move out. Moving out adds cost for all kinds of expenses you can't afford. Listen to Mom and Dad, they are your family and want what is best for you.

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Jon Tees

14 years ago

Results definitely vary with making money online. Some people experience recurring success right away, while it takes others years to build any kind of recurring income from internet marketing. Most people start off part time while working traditional jobs and then make the transition to full time when their IM income surpasses that of their day or night job. It might not be the worst thing to have a steady stream of income coming in until your IM business takes off. In fact you can use some of that money to invest in your business with advertising cost and so forth.

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gravtex

14 years ago

Once you have something to show for your efforts, those "why don't you get a job" questions will go away pretty quickly.

When I was in college, I went back home for a summer and was initially going to do an internship where my dad worked. I didn't get the one I wanted, and instead of finding something else, I decided to just take my little side business and be more serious about it.

My parents were NOT happy especially when they found out I'd turned down a summer job offer they thought was good (I though it sounded boring).

However, by the end of the summer when they saw I'd made several thousand dollars doing my own thing, they were okay with it.

Remember, most people are programmed to think in terms of "jobs" to get money. Entrepreneurs don't.

Ignore the naysayers and go for it.

Gary

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Kelsey A. Helm

14 years ago

Let me know via PM if you are still having a tough time getting going - I could help you get setup on Elance, or at least get you on the path to having something setup on your own.

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