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Old 11-21-2009, 06:42 AM   #1
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I spent a good 4 hours playing with this yesterday.

You'll need to watch a video:

Headway Premium WordPress Theme

Once you get the hang of it, it really does go quite quick.

Positive: You can move stuff all over the place and you have a million options

Negative: You can move stuff all over the place and have a million options

I don't think this is good for people with no design sense what so ever. The majority of sites I saw that were built with this were nice, but there are a few uglys in the mix. Those ones look like a blind man who has dressed himself not knowing someone mixed up all their clothes.

I'm back to playing now.

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Old 11-21-2009, 06:58 AM   #2
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Pretty cool with the exception that the buyer cannot remove the footer unless they buy the "bigger" package.

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Old 11-21-2009, 07:07 AM   #3
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Pretty cool with the exception that the buyer cannot remove the footer unless they buy the "bigger" package.

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True, but with that kind of theme, you may never have to buy another canned theme again. Free upgrades for life too.

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Definitely going to be picking the developer version of this up in the near future. This is everything I was hoping FlexxTheme would be and more.

For anyone looking to get this: If you google "headway coupon code" there are a ton of sites offering discounts if you buy through their link, so you can save a bit of cash.
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:55 AM   #5
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Dammit.

There goes my next three days.

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Old 11-21-2009, 08:45 AM   #6
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WOW This looks great!

I don't mind coding and messing around with CSS too much but sometimes I groan at the thought. Headway looks like a real time saver, and well, that's the most valuable thing we marketers have.

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Jill, you're hysterical


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Positive: You can move stuff all over the place and you have a million options

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Old 11-21-2009, 09:01 AM   #8
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Thanks for sharing, Jill. This looks thoroughly bad a$$.

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I. Am. BLOWN AWAY!

Oh man, I absolutely LOVE things like this.

Things that make previous complicated and complex stuff irrelevant anymore.

Things that gives you the power and control to exercise your creativity in any way you desire.

Things that...

Oh man.

This is quite the awesome thing. Thanks Jill!

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Hi Jill!

Man the Developer Option would be sooo worth it. But there are more important things at the moment... Like paying the internet connection bills.

P.S. I am on a very slow prepaid wireless broadband internet thingy..

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Very cool...I was just thiking of setting up a blog, so developer version here I come
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Oh god... I knew I shouldn't have clicked...

I'm a total junkie for this kind of thing. But I'm not a good enough designer to really make a blog shine with a piece of kit like that.

Thanks for the link, anyway. Probably something I'll try sometime down the road.

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Developer option = Purchased

Don will have fun with this lol

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Old 11-21-2009, 10:35 AM   #14
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Eee-EEE-Vil Woman... Da-na-na-na-na-na-na.

How dare you post this and completely wreck the serious all-day work-a-thon I had planned for this rainy, dreary Sat. I'm very upset with you, young lady.

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Old 11-21-2009, 10:41 AM   #15
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This looks amazing.

How does it compare with other similar options like wpremix, which I have always found to be a bit restrictive.

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The developer license on this sucks.



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What Can I Do?
  • Use for commercial purposes.
  • Install on unlimited websites that you or your company owns. If you develop client sites on Headway you must pay [or have your client pay you] an additional $40 per add-on license.
  • Remove the footer credit.
What Can't I Do?
  • Resell the theme.
  • Redistribute in any way, shape, or form.
  • Anything else you think would make us mad
Sounds to me more like an unlimited personal use license than it does a developer license.

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Old 11-21-2009, 10:46 AM   #17
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Here's what I see:

That's wrong -
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The developer license on this sucks.




Sounds to me more like an unlimited personal use license than it does a developer license.

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why is "remove footer credit" in both of those? weird

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nice title for the thread BTW - I had no choice but to click lol

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Just what the doctor ordered.

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why is "remove footer credit" in both of those? weird
Thought I copied the right thing, but I guess not...
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why is "remove footer credit" in both of those? weird
Something weird happened with the copy and paste.

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The developer license on this sucks.

Sounds to me more like an unlimited personal use license than it does a developer license.

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John, there is an option on the back end for $40 to get additional license for your customers. So, if you create a site for someone you can charge them that in your fees. They get lifetime updates as well.

Also, currently you need to disable plugins to use the drag and drop editor.

I am planning to use this on a members site, so I inquired the process to work on the theme - you have to copy the mysql database to do it right now.

This is actually version 2 of the software. When you buy you can get version 1 as well (included)

They appear to be working on it, so I imagine it's only a matter of time before there is a solution for backing up the theme you create in an easier way.

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Old 11-21-2009, 11:12 AM   #24
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Eee-EEE-Vil Woman... Da-na-na-na-na-na-na.

How dare you post this and completely wreck the serious all-day work-a-thon I had planned for this rainy, dreary Sat. I'm very upset with you, young lady.
Hey, I gave you fair warning in the thread title.

I went looking for a theme the day before yesterday and found this, had to sleep on it, had to watch the video again, and finally gave in.

Like I said, I spent a few hours playing.

You never realize it - they give you a limited amount of fonts to work with but there are enough to get you going. So, if you don't have a clear picture in your head of what you are going to do with it you will spend time flipping things back and forth, changing colors, moving menus around, etc.

I finally decided it was best to purchase a banner first (10 bucks in the WSO's) and build the rest of the site colors and themes around it.

This will save me some additional time and may be the way to go to really speed up what you are doing.

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Old 11-21-2009, 11:17 AM   #25
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Great stuff!!! Just missing some demos with different layouts.

That's a shame.



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WTH - I thought a developer license would be a lot less restrictive?

Oh well....

It was a nice thought while it lasted.

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WTH - I thought a developer license would be a lot less restrictive?

Oh well....

It was a nice thought while it lasted.
Here's the thing. You can remove the footer link if you have a developers license - BUT- in the configurations on the back end you can add your affiliate link to their program and it automatically inserts it into that footer link if you leave it in place.

Also, they have a completely different SEO solution in the back end. It allows you to decide which posts you want nofollow links on. You can more easily select which pages you don't want indexed (like TOS and login pages)

And again, if you want to sell a particular theme you've created, all you would need to do is either figure out the best way to save the mysql data base, or just make note on all the configurations you did to create a specific look. Then just charge the client the additional $40 for their license.

They will get the lifetime upgrades for the one time fee, and they will be able to change the site at any time.

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Yeah..Finallly some drag and drop! Cool!

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The creator of Headway is a solid dude.
Of the thousands of Wordpress themes or building templates available,
there are only 2 which I suggest to friends, and this is one of them.

The other I am a partner (more than affiliate) for because it's outstanding.

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Here's the thing. You can remove the footer link if you have a developers license - BUT- in the configurations on the back end you can add your affiliate link to their program and it automatically inserts it into that footer link if you leave it in place.

Also, they have a completely different SEO solution in the back end. It allows you to decide which posts you want nofollow links on. You can more easily select which pages you don't want indexed (like TOS and login pages)

And again, if you want to sell a particular theme you've created, all you would need to do is either figure out the best way to save the mysql data base, or just make note on all the configurations you did to create a specific look. Then just charge the client the additional $40 for their license.

They will get the lifetime upgrades for the one time fee, and they will be able to change the site at any time.
I understand that....

and I understand that it is there license and they can word it however they want, but when I see something is a "developers license" I expect it to be a little more "open" for the lack of a better word.

Hell, increase the price to $297 or something and give people the ability to sell what they create.

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Exactly.

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Good morning everyone. We appreciate the conversation about Headway and I am one of the co-founders. We are in the process of changing the license of our product and I think you all will be very pleased. If you want to purchase now, consider getting the personal license and be watching for the changes soon. You will not be disappointed with the license changes and the personal license for now will get you what you need.
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Hey Avenuegirl Thanks but hey! I resemble that! :P Just messing. Am visually impaired but can see well enough to do IM. Awesome share btw!

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I understand that....

and I understand that it is there license and they can word it however they want, but when I see something is a "developers license" I expect it to be a little more "open" for the lack of a better word.

Hell, increase the price to $297 or something and give people the ability to sell what they create.
LOL, I agree, it's nice to have your cake and eat it too.

As a solution person, I would like to imagine there is some way to copy the source codes after you've created something and plant the necessary elements into a static pre-packaged theme. That theme you could do what ever you wanted to with it.

Of course, I'm not a programmer or techno genius, but it is just a thought.

A developer would be in the best position to figure out this type of thing and if he got some kind of technique down to do it, that could most certainly be sold on its own.

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Good morning everyone. We appreciate the conversation about Headway and I am one of the co-founders. We are in the process of changing the license of our product and I think you all will be very pleased. If you want to purchase now, consider getting the personal license and be watching for the changes soon. You will not be disappointed with the license changes and the personal license for now will get you what you need.
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Hey Ms. Jill,

I keep saying to myself, ok, no additional purchases this month, and then you come along and screw it all up.

Thanks for the Headway, I mean the heads-up.

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What a great theme! Someone told me about this before, but never got around to
checking it out. I will definitely be forward looking for the changes in the
developer's license.

Thanks for the reminder on Headway,
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OMG, Jill! This is the theme I have been wanting. I have such a hard time choosing a theme because I always think, what if I change my mind later, or what if it doesn't do what I want it to. Of course, I don't need to be buying anything right now...

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Old 11-21-2009, 05:30 PM   #39
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OMG, Jill! This is the theme I have been wanting. I have such a hard time choosing a theme because I always think, what if I change my mind later, or what if it doesn't do what I want it to. Of course, I don't need to be buying anything right now...
LOL, I have the same issue.

Fair warning - careful what you ask for.

Like I said, Negative: You can move stuff all over the place and have a million options

This is not always a good thing.

Best to have some ideas in mind before using this theme. Integrate it around some kind of specific idea or you will feel like you are an artist staring at a blank canvas.

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Can you choose what elements of a page are h1/h2, etc...? After looking at a site it seems the H1 is only on the site slogan for all pages.


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Oh, boy. New toy. Being the crow that I am, of course I had to click on the thread. Thanks for posting this!

I'm assuming since they say it's SEO-friendly it must handle the H1 tags properly, unlike most themes? I will have to look into it more.

There goes tomorrow...

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How clean is the html source code that is produced?

In other words, how much code bloat is there?

Does anyone know?

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Too bad they don't have examples of the different types of sites that can be created.

It's one thing to say what it can do but another to show it. How about showing a landing page, sales page, or corporate type layout.

Also, can you drag and drop the video player that they use on their site?

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This looks like a site flippers dream theme lol! I might buy it but not right now! thanks for bringing it to my attention though, looks really cool!

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Does it come with any built in templates along the lines of review site, video display site, news site etc etc, looks like it offers a sexy level of "no geek required" configurability but some one button push "insta-site" would be the icing on the cake.
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Good morning everyone. We appreciate the conversation about Headway and I am one of the co-founders. We are in the process of changing the license of our product and I think you all will be very pleased. If you want to purchase now, consider getting the personal license and be watching for the changes soon. You will not be disappointed with the license changes and the personal license for now will get you what you need.
Hi Grant, welcome to the forum! I'm a niche site kinda guy, so I've got an ever-expanding number of sites. Are you planning on making the personal license cover unlimited sites?
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Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but according to the video it's Valid XHTML / CSS.
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Hey Chris --

In a word, yup. There will still be a personal license and a developers license. The difference will be the level of support.
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Just add an H1 tag where you want it and define the attributes in the CSS file.

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Look like Thesis for non-coders. Little more bloat due to that, but doesn't look bad.
if you are a non-coder, by the time you add a child theme with thesis, that bloats it up too.

I Like it.

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