Is BING The Next Google?

Could get interesting...

Microsoft and News Corp. are in talks where Microsoft would pay News Corp. to have their sites de-indexed by Google and only show up in Bing's search results.

Apparently, Microsoft may be working with other large sites for similar deals.

So, the search engine wars could really just be beginning. Again.

I bought a new computer that had the Bing toolbar already on IE. I used it s few times, and HATED the search results it returned. I got rid of that thing and went back to google.

So, I tried Bing, but went right back to google. If they are going to compete, they need to get better listings in their search rankings.

Personally NO for me, I feel that Google has set its heights and personally I don't even think Bing will out rank Yahoo personally!

Well, this is something that only time will tell. Anyone remember Lycos?

You know, I really like Bing and have found it to be pretty good with it's selections and quality of results. I have to play with it more but I like where it is going.

Like most I use Google almost entirely but here is one thing I like about Bing, I can get my results as RSS... that opens up a ton of possibilities!

All the best

Sean

I do think Bing has skyrocketed compared to any other competition, although it is Microsoft.

The thing about microsoft that many don't realize, is that they can dominate their market share. People can't anger Microsoft because they have such a large market share in computing, but beyond that, BROWSING. How many use IE as their default browser?

Microsoft will always have Google in check because they can always "ban" Google sites or make it difficult for users to access Google over Bing.

I know it may seem ridiculous, but They've always been aggresive in their takeover practices (save Yahoo) in the the past.

I'm not sticking up for Microsoft (just ranting myself) but considering their makret share in not just OS but Browsers.

Safe Travels,

Sorry, a BIG NO. Google is light years ahead of Bing and Yahoo.

Yeah, I think Google is way ahead of Bing... Since Google will be releasing its Chrome (online) Operating System that will give them a huge advantage + their search engine algorithm is much more advanced

When Bing first came out I saw an increase in traffic - but now its back to live.com times

Who can compete with big G. The amount of applications and tools in development in their labs is exponentially beyond the comprehension of the average human being. Every week I discover a new Google feature that can really help IM'ers.

Problem is simplicity in itself is more valued than spending half the day trying to work out how to use these features.

Anything yahoo can do google can do better....just remembered that song

a lot of older users use Bing. They grew up on Microsoft. Probably why Bing is a better place to use PPC with medical advertisers. So while I wouldn't discount it, as the old MS users die off, unless there is a radical shift, so might Bing!

Conjecture, admittedly. Lol.

If you really want to know which search engine is better take this taste test and post it back here:

Blind Search
808glass



Thanks for the link, this is a great time-saver.
Will

It's not just older users, but users who aren't very techy or are happy using what their computer came configured with.

doubt it, but I do get a ton of traffic from Bing

I think right now they are too different for Bing to win out. Google has branded itself well and offers so many other services. With GoogleWave hitting the beta market now, and Google Chrome OS on the horizon.

Well see it will be an interesting battle!

Yes, but not the way you think.

If you look at Google Caffeine - which is definitely "the next Google" - you'll find that the search results there are subtly different.

I spent several years working with Microsoft in various capacities. One of the many things I worked on was what would later become Bing. And the results Google Caffeine gets are strikingly similar to the ones Bing got when it was in early development.

Bing really is a better search engine, in ways that Google very much sees and would really like to have themselves. But where Microsoft spent years figuring out how Bing should work to be a better search engine, Google has a ready-made roadmap: they can look at Bing, and try to get the same results on their own. They're doing a good job, and they'll be able to copy the things that make Bing better a lot faster than Microsoft could invent them.

So Google is going to start doing more or less the same things Bing does, and it won't take as long as you think. You'll still go to Google, but you'll get all the benefits of Bing.

Bing's a game-changer. It's altered the way search will look in the future, whether it's on Bing or somewhere else. But in the end, you're probably not going to switch search engines.

It's important to remember that we all win in this battle. Bing and Google are not trying to win some abstract medal, they're trying to win a geek war - who can deliver the best search results? - and the ultimate victor is us. We get those better search results, no matter who wins, and in the end they'll both look pretty much the same.

Bing and google seem to rank my sites about the same..I mean slight differences, but generally if one does well in one, it does in the other.

So I don't know if it makes a big difference.

To be sure, we ain't heard the last of this.

The search engine war will only benefit us as the internet marketer!
Hopefully we can get better customer support from Google than. It's a wake up call to them once yahoo getting bigger

google has such a market share that I doubt bing will ever take over. BUT they may grab some market share...

Well I have been non-Microsoft LOL . Like and user Google Search every day.

BUT i have to admit this:

IMAGE search of BING is FASTER and More Productive that Google's ...
and for Image search i often fire Bing to get results!

Also sometime I see Google is SLOW, or taking so much time to respond..
I go use BING and it always works fine and FAST...

Thank God we have an alternative there...otherwise if Google sleeps we have too..
but now for the Google's downtime we have BING

Regards,
Mohsin

I thought it was the other way around and microsoft could steal an idea faster then someone could make them.

Bing is no where can beat Google in short time now ..

I prefer Google anyway

It's easier to get to page one in Bing and Yahoo than it is on Google. Ignoring Bing will lose you a lot of traffic.

Let's wait and see if people start saying "Bing it!"

I think it's silly, from MSN.com to Live.com to Bing.com. Make up your mind dammit! LOL.

I've always been faithful to Yahoo.com. It's the ORIGINAL search engine, I think it's about time it reclaimed the throne. Go Yahoo!

Thanks,
Adam

I've been seeing alot of advertising on television promoting them lately.

Personally I cant see it happen, google is so much more then search and is so well in peoples mind that google is what they use and will always use. Normally when google do something its good so I'm sure they wont see microsoft as a real threat. Thats my oppinion anyway

Bing gets ONE chance.

ONE search... If they don't produce equal or better results than google (i.e. giving me what I searched for) then I simply won't try them again.

Bing had that chance with me, and no doubt millions of other people.

Google aren't stupid.

I doubt it but I hope it overtakes Yahoo. Something new is going to have to come out of nowhere to take on Google, kinda like firefox against IE.

BING can be #1 tomorrow if WE, the internet users want it to be. Google is NOTHING without us. The POWER is in OUR hands. I think it's about time Google received a 'wake-up call'. It is far too big, with it's corporate fingers in far too many pies.

Let's arrange a date when EVERYONE uses an alternative to Google? How about a Yahoo and BING day?

Competition is good, it needs to be encouraged

Competition is always good otherwise they'll get to the point where they'll throw anything at us. Just look at Ebay, sure Amazon competes, but their system is different. If someone had offered real competition to them they would not think they were god and make it hard for sellers.

Just had this exact conversation with a fellow marketer. He convinced me, google chrome.

Bing + Yahoo can make damage in google search engine %, but is very difficult to conquer google space in other concepts.

Competition is really good for all users!

It could. But that would take a few years to play out. Google will not stay number 1 forever. I definitely like BING's commercials though.

Bing? Not likely. This month's stats are showing me 11,206 Google click throughs and only 36 for Bing. And, my optimization is actually higher for most keywords on Bing. If that doesn't speak volumes I don't know what does? Cheers.

I think that so many people consider Google's search results better then Bing's just because you got used to the way google works...Bing is still somewhat of a mystery when it comes to exactly how websites get ranked and all that stuff.

go try out Bing for a month everyday without ever going to Google...I can bet that when you go back To google (if you go) you will think that Bing had better search results in some areas at least.

Bing can take google if they start building some apps around it...get people to use the apps and then they might start using the search too.

And don't get so confident about Chrome OS, Microsoft already has for some time the Windows Azure project, witch is a way for developers to develop in the "cloud"...so we might see Microsoft competing with Google over the netbook market and cloud operating systems.

I am going to check out bing now. Prefer being on page 1 of Bing than 20 of Google .

Are there any Bing SEO experts?

G

As I understand it, MS and Yahoo! have already worked out a deal for MS to start providing BING results for Yahoo! searches beginning next year.

I think Bing can not beat Google. Bing doesn't have any new useful features compare to Google that can attract user

This is a joke right?
Google at present indexes 2.3billion pages
Bing 1.1billion
Google caffeine has over 3.4 billion to-date and the new googlebot is on hyperdrive.

so your either working for Microsoft or stumbled your way into this forum by mistake

Oh yeah and dont forget whats that other search engine in the number two position after google?
Tell u what lets make that a competition
first person with the right answer posted on this forum
get an all expenses paid trip to the playboy mansion !!

ok not really but what is it anyway?

This is what everyone said of Yahoo when Google came out. Things happen, just because something seems really hot today and like it will always be the standard does not mean it will.

Bing seems to be installed as a default on some new computers and I've also seen it installed on my own companies works machines.

There seems to be a lot of hype about it in all the main PC magazines talking about Windows 7 and I certainly think that to ignore is is to do so at your peril.

Look forward to hearing what others think.

Fraser

Well, Google is far ahead of Bing. It'll take a lot of time for Bing to do something Big. However, I like the Bird Eye View of Bing maps. Its awesome. Also mouse-over on the searches in Bing is cool. Has anybody heard of the so called Google Killer, "Blekko.com". Well, apparently, they have started their operations 2 years back, working secretively ( u can see only a puppet on their webpage). They have raised $20 million already in a bad economy like this. Investors must be seeing something big coming.

Although BING won't beat google, everything still is possible and i still want to rank good at all search engines... So i own site "x". there is site "y". Site "x" ranks very good at google, but very bad at BING (actually, no results at all). Site "y", although for the particular keywords ranks ~300place in google, but in bing its number one. Why? How can i increase my rating at bing?

It is interesting because the profit model Google is using is working very well. The profit model Microsoft is using is getting hit hard in some areas ---like Linux in servers and Joomla and Wordpress in website building. If Linux ever gets some momentum in desktops then Microsoft will have thier hands full.

A fewyears ago google was just a geek's dream, something new never to threaten the big boys. Things can change. We take IM for granted , 20 years ago nobody here would have ever thought that it could have evolved the way it has.

Keep an open mind

G

I think that google plays it smart with their ultra simple approach. I know there was the big battle before, but Google has their feet planted pretty firmly now, especially looking at their presence in YouTube and Adwords/Adsense as well.

It would be nice to see Bing gain more of the share though. As a SEO guy, I hate having to rely so much on one search engine.

Matt

It only takes one series of events for anything dominant to come crashing down. This could be from something someone else does that grabs peoples attention or imagination, or it could be something the dominant company does to itself in a error of judgement.

One example is their attempt to move into Real Estate. This move is really upsetting a few very large companies who rely on the traffic to be exposed to their own advertising. Google wants people to view listings from 3rd party sites from their own web site. Google then gets the people viewing their ads, not the ads of the owners of the data. Googles revenue is from advertisers and by pissing them off with moves like this they slowly build up spite.

Google is also very careful with how they handle personal data - their most valuable asset. If something happens and this data is used for something that a large majority of people are not happy with (bad judgement call) then these users will start looking for alternatives.

The IM industry might also be what separates the results of Google to Bing. As IM increases in popularity and pointless sites make up the top 10 of Google, readers will look elsewhere to find uselful sites. Word of mouth will really play a part here.

I hope so, but I don't think so.

I don't hate Google. On the contrary, I like their ideologies and how they support the Free Software movement (yes, I'm a programmer). However, I don't like the current situation of the internet...

Google dominates everything! Search engine, Google reader, Blogger, Google Docs, FeedBurner, AdSense, Google News, YouTube, Jaiku, Orkut (biggest social network here in Brazil and also in India and Pakistan), Google webmaster tools, Analytics, Google translator, Chrome... And there are many, many other services they provide.

But the point is: Google dominates the internet! I feel like a Google's hostage, it seems that I don't have where to run to. When they decide that rebills are not good, anyone promoting this kind of offers gets banned. If they get tired of zip/email submits you get banned. If they think your content is not relevant, you get banned. If they don't like the amount of content in your website, you get banned. If they think don't like your hair color, you get banned. And what can you do? Cry, I suppose, because Bing and Yahoo! have much less traffic and you can't profit from them as much you were profiting from Google. Now, in this exact moment, Google is fighting affiliates and we can do absolutely nothing about it besides keep running and trying to hide. It's sad.

I hope Bing grows and steal a good percentage of Google's traffic. Then maybe affiliates (and all the other people and companies) working with PPC and SEO can stop struggling to run a simple campaign.

But here is what makes me smile: we can change this situation, because we are who pay Google. They have a lot of speculative capital, but where does the real money comes from? Yes! It comes from our pocket, AdWords is the only service among all those owned by Google that makes some real money. If we move on to Bing Google will have problems. And don't care about the users, people follow the webmasters. If we take the good content to Bing, the average user will follow us. People look for nice content, not for sites with tons of backlinks or landing pages with tons of unuseful articles that were put there just to please Google.

garbage MSN repackaged with a little marketing = BING

I can get great KW results in Google very quickly. In Bing, by contrast it can take me months, if I ever get any good placement at all for the same keywords. I tried that blindsearch though. That was pretty cool, and could be a valuable time saving tool for checking rankings.

I could not have said it better then the poster above.

wow...getting a seizure right now. It's like Homer Simpson designed it

I'm starting my own search engine. So far I have 5 sites indexed. Google and Bing should be worried.

BING could be the next Google. One thing I do like about Bing right now is that advertising on it is VERY cheap right now because there is not too much competition.

It seems like Bing has a better algorithm. Although Google has a huge market so Bing will take at least a couple of years to compete Google.

Which brings me back to the whole point of this thread.

Google is part of the language of the world now. I don't see anyone breaking that monopoly soon.

So would it not make sense to position yourself on bing when it comes to paid advertising? Afterall Google adwords is so expensive these days to make a profit.

For me Bing should come with something next year to keep on track with Google's innovation.

This has really gotten interesting but i really think that Google will still be leading the search engine wars for now. But we will never know....

A few points:

Generally speaking, Google is light years ahead of Bing in many areas.

Regarding search results: unless you've tested tens of thousands of keywords and their results on both search engines, it's nothing but pure speculation. Sometimes I get better results on Google and sometimes it's better on Bing, it all depends on the keyword or kw phrases that I type in.

Like someone already posted it's something only time will tell. While improbable, the big G might make a tactical error or two while Bing plays catch up. Personally, I don't think so. I think Google is going to be the leader for at least the next decade. They're getting users hooked on their desktop search, video search, free apps, and finding new ways to reach people.

Lastly, many ppc marketers and SEO marketers are finding new homes at Yahoo and Bing. Some are doing well enough where they were getting slaughtered at Google but have been able to make a go of it at Y and B. I know plenty of CPA marketers, who are going to KILL me for sharing this, that are making a killing (no pun intended) on Bing and Yahoo and showing Google the full moon.

RoD

I've known this for a while. You may think this sounds stupid, but I figured out how this whole PPC thing works or any type of paid traffic. If I spend x amount of money per visitor then each visitor will have a value to me no matter what. I can spend 100 dollars and pay 1.00 per visitor. If I make 200 dollars then each visitor has a value to me of 1.00 not including the cost to drive them. The lesser search engines allow you to get cheaper clicks, so even if you get less traffic you still make more money because you ROI per visitor is so much higher.

Only time will tell. Eventually the users will reap the benefits from these competing search engines. People will only need to choose which one they like best.

Sounds like what myspace thought before twitter knocked them off the map.

I believe eventually they will come up with some sort of preprogrammed offline device people will be able to use at a low cost. Right now we have the Iphone with internet, but it is still out of reach for many people. If someone comes up with a cheap offline device programmed with a specific search engine that gives good results they may hurt Google.

When I went to Bing, I really didn't like its search results, even though a good friend stands by it. I just didn't like it. maybe sometime in the future when it gets better than it is right now, but I don't see myself using Bing anytime soon.

I jumped from Yahoo to Google and never looked backed... This "Bing Thing" , where is the "product differentiation" they seem to be offering a watered down version of something less than Yahoo.

I don't get what they are selling, the market is very satisfied with "google" and "yahoo". If they are going to make a play they need to pitch something that shows they have a better product.

What is their pitch anyway ?

How many people are going to "google it" on Bing?

Google passed Yahoo, but googling is branded into our vocabulary.

That would be an amazing feat if Bing gets bigger than Google.

Not for some time, but hey, the bigger they are the harder they fall.

I have not overly liked the search results from Bing. It just has not given me what I really wanted in the way of results.

But from what Bing has set up for it's self, it is clear that they are here to stay and they want to be competition. So you never know what they might do to bump the Google giant. They have already started to set up major agreements with different companies so you never know what they will be able to do.

If Bing want to win they have to do more than create a better search experience that have to beat the Google cult and brand which has become part of are society and language.

In my wifes country Bulgaria all the young people refer to Uncle Google which is pretty strong branding

Q:What is the most used search engine on the planet today?
A:Google
B:Bing
C:yahoo






ANSWER YOUTUBE!!!!!

Definitely bing will lead on google because it has the potential to do so, But in first people may disagree and just love to use google but automatically they will turn themselves to bing with the results they will be getting in future from bing.

It doesn't mean that google will be silent after lossing treir crown and kingdom they will work better on it and fight hard to stay on top, so there is something interesting in future in world of search engine wars....