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Let the flamming begin...I'm new need website help :)

by Yobie
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Hey everyone,
First off, thanks to all the people that post on these forums. This site seems to have a lot of helpful people compared to other ones. Hoping not to get too flamed for asking such a newbie question here it goes.

I'm new here and have been trying to get into theses games for the last year or so. I have tried to build my own websites a few times and just fail in the end. I have tried dreamweaver and joomla, but just cant seem to wrap my head around it. Do any of you have any suggestions for building a website with a forum. I'm looking to add google adsense as well as afiliate marketing if possible. I'm looking to build a few, would it be worth paying someone to do it? Or is there any real simplified way to do what I want by myself?

Thanks in advance and look forward to your responses.

-Yobie
#beginim #flamming #website
  • Profile picture of the author Charles Washington
    Why would you get flamed?
    The answer to your problem is Wordpress. Learn it. it will be your best friend.
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    • Profile picture of the author Liquification
      Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

      Why would you get flamed?
      The answer to your problem is Wordpress. Learn it. it will be your best friend.
      I'll be the first to say i don't know what type of site would work best for him but, i don't think Wordpress is it. The OP stated he wants a forum on this site. I may be wrong but, i don't think Wordpress has a forum function.
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      • Profile picture of the author KDH
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        • Profile picture of the author Yobie
          Ya i want a forum for both my sites actually. One is a fitness related site and I have hundreds of pages of database information already written. I own a domain name already because I've tried this a few times in the past.


          Well I know a lot of other forums hate newbie questions. They seem to only flame or post ridiculous stuff because they get tired of them.

          Thanks for being helpful all
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        • Profile picture of the author Yobie
          Originally Posted by KDH View Post

          XsitePro seems easy to use. I use Wordpress though.
          I'll check it out...have you used it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
        Originally Posted by Liquification View Post

        I'll be the first to say i don't know what type of site would work best for him but, i don't think Wordpress is it. The OP stated he wants a forum on this site. I may be wrong but, i don't think Wordpress has a forum function.
        bbPress works with WordPress, and is developed by the same people.

        Of course, I don't think it is (yet) as robust a solutions as others out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Washington
    He still needs a CMS to base his site on. It looked to me like the forum was an afterthought. Anyway, simple Forums is as it easy, pretty simple to use.
    Setup WP on the index. Then, put the forum on a subdomain or extension.

    Or he could use something like http://simplepressforum.com/
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    • Profile picture of the author Yobie
      Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

      He still needs a CMS to base his site on. It looked to me like the forum was an afterthought. Anyway, simple Forums is as it easy, pretty simple to use.
      Setup WP on the index. Then, put the forum on a subdomain or extension.

      Or he could use something like
      I wnat to keep my forum on the same domain if possible
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Flammed? As in 'Flim Flammed?'

    Thank you, folks. Thanks. I'm here all week. Try the veal!

    Seriously, though, we don't typically flame unless you really really ask for it. And your question is a perfectly good one. I don't have an answer, but someone here will. Try Googling it too. Use a variety of search phrases. Something will definitely pop up for you.

    And welcome to WF.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author hock1
    Hi Yobie glad to have you on the forum, don't worry this is not a flaming group of people
    so you are in good company, you said you have tried to build a website and failed?

    What kind of site was it, did you plan on making money with it? You might want to sit down and start with a plan and map out what you want to do, Be more specific and these guys probably would be better equipped to help you out.

    Peace.
    Jeff A.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yobie
      Originally Posted by hock1 View Post

      Hi Yobie glad to have you on the forum, don't worry this is not a flaming group of people
      so you are in good company, you said you have tried to build a website and failed?

      What kind of site was it, did you plan on making money with it? You might want to sit down and start with a plan and map out what you want to do, Be more specific and these guys probably would be better equipped to help you out.

      Peace.
      Jeff A.

      Obviously money is good and I would love to make money online. I wanted to get the site up as a database and have a forum for questions and etc. Once that was up I was going to look further into money making avenues.
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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by hock1 View Post

      You might want to sit down and start with a plan and map out what you want to do, Be more specific and these guys probably would be better equipped to help you out.
      Yobie, I think this (above) was the best advice in the whole thread... too bad you didn't start focusing on it.

      "A website" doesn't mean anything. You really have to sit down, take a piece of paper and make a plan of your site. Like a chart. Will it be just zillion pages thrown together? Will there be a kind of structure? - e.g. sections, sub-sections etc.. How the navigation will work?
      Put all those desired elements/components in a hierarchical structure.

      When you are done with this part - all your questions will be focused and specific because you will know what you need.

      Please, go through this brainstorming process:
      - what are my goals?
      - what is the purpose of the site to achieve my goals?
      - how the content will be organized on the site to lead the visitor where I want them to be
      - what else do I want to offer them

      The technical questions (software, CMS, scripts) should come AFTER you know the answers to the questions above.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Graudins
        Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

        The technical questions (software, CMS, scripts) should come AFTER you know the answers to the questions above.
        Exactly.
        But people always want to rave on about the merits of various website builders, shopping carts, programming languages, etc.

        And some website designers/developers only know one way to do things. They have no idea of scaling the solution to the requirements. For example, someone I know was quoted over $12,000 for an e-commerce system, when all they really needed was an account at e-junkie.

        cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author pizzatherapy
    True, wordpress does not have a forum function.

    Check out your hosting. Look for a hosting company that provides Fantastico. You will find lots of options. (I use hostgator for several of my sites)

    Look in in your Control panel for fantastcio you will find word press and a forum option.

    There may be a bit of a learning curve, but there are many helpful blog posts and videos around that will help get it set up...

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    There is at least one forum plugin for WordPress. I've no idea whether it's any good because I've never used it, but it might be worth looking into. I once had a WordPress installation linked to a standalone forum in a sub-directory though, and that worked well enough at the time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yobie
      interesting i'll check wordpress out and see if there is a forum addon
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    bbpress.org has bbpress, which is a forum addon for Wordpress. You could outsource for what you want, or go with Wordpress and BBPress
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    • Profile picture of the author Yobie
      Great thanks, I also found simplepressforum . com that looks nice. I havent looked too far into it but it looks like its integrated into wordpress which is what i want.

      Thanks again everyone
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  • Profile picture of the author mastermute
    I agree, Wordpress and a forum-plugin should cater for most needs!
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Yobie, my suggestion to you is to outsource this job. If you want to know how to do it yourself, ask that they include a step by step manual on how they created your site (then recoup your losses by offering that manual as a WSO).
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    • Profile picture of the author Yobie
      whats the average price for something like this, do you know? I dont mind paying if i can make it back + more in the long run
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I don't think there is an average price. Ask for bids and see what you get. Only choose a bidder with a good track record, good reviews, etc.
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    As was mentioned, bb press is an option and it's free.

    Z
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  • Profile picture of the author jejaka
    Here In Malaysia.. Among of IM they use wordpress to create their blog.. even website.

    Hope u will try that,

    But for me i prefer to use joomla.
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  • Profile picture of the author ALuth
    Wordpress = answer to all website problems.

    I had no experience in building a website and wordpress made it easy to do. Check out mine in my sig and tell me if you want some tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Powers
    Using wordpress,it's pretty good and also easy to use and manage.I think if you have enough accumulation,you can make it.But here is another problem.You should first make sure the goal of your blog,and then can you build it well and make full use of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author gbd
    Totally agree with Charles. Using Wordpress is the way to go. It's free, you can install it on your own domain (though I'd advise against using the Fantastico installer if you're overly concerned about security), and it's VERY SEO friendly. You can make it more SEO friendly with Jeff Johnson's FREE plugin. Once installed and configured, all you have to think about is adding content. Also the internal structure is pretty well done so it's easy to add/modify things if you need/want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
    I have not actually used it yet, was looking around online for some stuff though. I found www.simplepressforum.com, it seems pretty good and close to what you were asking for. I know it's exactly what I was looking for.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yobie
      do I have to make a website to do all this affiliate/article marketing stuff. If so can I just going a free bloggin site and go from there?
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      • Profile picture of the author Charles Washington
        Originally Posted by Yobie View Post

        do I have to make a website to do all this affiliate/article marketing stuff. If so can I just going a free bloggin site and go from there?
        Free blogger blogs or Squidoo are great options. But, you lose your forum option. I said earlier that I thought the forum was an afterthought for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Yobie
          Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

          Free blogger blogs or Squidoo are great options. But, you lose your forum option. I said earlier that I thought the forum was an afterthought for you.

          lol no it really isnt i just feel over my head with the whole building a website. A forum is something I wanted from the start for at least one of my websites
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          • Profile picture of the author Yobie
            im trying the wordpress thing as we speak I hope I can at least get it up and running. I'm really good with computers and such but i feel like I have a block when it comes to websites
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          • Profile picture of the author Charles Washington
            Originally Posted by Yobie View Post

            lol no it really isnt i just feel over my head with the whole building a website. A forum is something I wanted from the start for at least one of my websites
            I'm telling you. Learn Wordpress. It is super easy after a little bit of a learning curve.
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            • Profile picture of the author Yobie
              Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

              I'm telling you. Learn Wordpress. It is super easy after a little bit of a learning curve.
              thats what im shooting for at the moment. Thanks for all your help
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Wordpress is great. I use it most of the time. However, it is not the end all and be all for everything. Other CMS, eg Drupal or Joomla!, may be better for some things (and sometimes straight html or php sites may be the best option).
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    Why don't you simply use a hosted solution if you're not technically inclined?

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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    Originally Posted by Yobie View Post

    Hey everyone,
    First off, thanks to all the people that post on these forums. This site seems to have a lot of helpful people compared to other ones. Hoping not to get too flamed for asking such a newbie question here it goes.

    I'm new here and have been trying to get into theses games for the last year or so. I have tried to build my own websites a few times and just fail in the end. I have tried dreamweaver and joomla, but just cant seem to wrap my head around it. Do any of you have any suggestions for building a website with a forum. I'm looking to add google adsense as well as afiliate marketing if possible. I'm looking to build a few, would it be worth paying someone to do it? Or is there any real simplified way to do what I want by myself?

    Thanks in advance and look forward to your responses.

    -Yobie
    I posted this link on another topic. It's of a young guy
    called Edz Johnson who has uploaded quite a few easy
    to follow videos of starting a new website. He shows you
    in a straightforward manner how to build a website, Understand
    HTML code, Uploading the info to your server, Getting a
    domain name for free.............

    Hope this helps you out.



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