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Old 11-27-2009, 07:07 PM   #51
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I guess with this guy its something different.There are different levels of people when it comes to needing articles. If I am doing article marketing I want to see a positive ROI for the money I spend. If I am using the content for other reasons I may want it to read like a mini research paper.

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Old 11-28-2009, 06:36 PM   #52
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This is from the Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance's (MEAA)website. It's the Australian union for journalists, writers, photographers, actors etc. Some of you may pass out at these rates, so be prepared...

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Information correct as of January 2009.


Approved minimums for freelance and casual writers, broadcasters,photographers and artists.

These minimums are exclusive of GST.

Freelance Daily Rate

Per day $846.00
Per half day (2/3 day rate) $564.00
Per hour $211.00
1000 words or less $860.00
then 86c per word

Book Editors & Proofreaders

Per day $846.00
Per half day (2/3 day rate) $564.00
Per hour $211


Yes, this is real.
I've worked for publishing companies who paid MUCH more than this.
Don't sell yourself short, there's a LOT more money to be made than one cent per word.

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Old 11-28-2009, 06:58 PM   #53
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Maybe - It also has to do with the mentality of offline people. They think articles are always supposed to be super professional, while we as online marketers pick unheard niches and write articles about them after getting an idea of what the niche is about...

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I think it has less to do with mentality, and more to do with positioning

As we've seen, it's just as easy to sell articles at $3 per word as it is at $0.03

The difference is: the first one sells their expert service, the second just sells their service...

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Old 11-29-2009, 03:20 AM   #54
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I used to work full-time as a professional content writer, and did most of my work for a company that commissioned content on behalf of various brand name sites. I was paid a minimum of £40 for a 400-500 word article - and usually more. In the case of the work where I made £40/500 words, they were actually apologetic about the 'low' rate, but couldn't pay more because that particular project had a very tight budget.

Needless to say, when I discovered that in the IM world it's normal to pay about $5 or less for a 500 word article, I was like I realise that could be a good income for someone living in a country where dollars are worth a lot more than their local currency, but for those of us in the west it seems absurdly low. I wouldn't dream of working for so little, and it's a shame if good writers accept these rates and value their time and skills so poorly.

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Old 11-29-2009, 06:08 AM   #55
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:06 AM   #56
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Offline Marketing is EXPLOSIVE. I've spent my 3 years online that I completely neglect the offline world. I'm currently transitioning 90% of my marketing to offline because there is absolutely NO COMPETITION.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:16 AM   #57
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I've been saying this here for years!!!!!

People DRASTICALLY underestimate how much value real businesses put on creating promotional material - including articles.

I've been paid as much as $3000 for ONE article.

People here seem to really operate at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to valuing their time and expertise - many businesses wouldn't expect you to charge less than a few hundred dollars for some writing services - but because there are a lot of struggling people offering things (and wanting things) for practically nothing, they seem to think that the rest of the world is like this.

If you do nothing else in 2010 - start charging what your time is worth if you use it on work for other people.

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Old 11-29-2009, 11:09 AM   #58
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Default Re: I Jokingly Told A Guy I Would Do One Article For Him For 100$ And He Said “That’s It”

And the number of people who have been charging low prices, and don't know how to get more money for their work is incredible. I get a lot of people who did the basic format given, sell cheap and now can't get out of the cycle.

It's easy to sell articles for less then $10 here on the forum, just do a simple article and make the points as a list.

You don't even need to go offline to find people want/need good quality writing.

But, they don't want articles which are just simple list type articles. They want articles which have been well researched. They want articles which inform their readers.

Even if you never go offline, you will find people who are desperate for high quality work. There are at least 2,000 companies who advertise and pay high rates, but you can guarantee they won't pay for cheap, unreadable articles. Those are not companies who are offline, but online.

In all my years as a writer, I've only had 1 person who asked me to write any articles in a list format.

What IMers think are quality articles are not seen as quality articles by people who are prepared to pay higher prices.

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Old 11-29-2009, 02:46 PM   #59
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I'm regularly competing against writers who are charging between 1 and 2c per word and when I started out I really didn't think I'd ever make it as a freelance writer.

But I was wrong. There are people out there who are more than prepared to pay a lot more than this and I've made up to $200 for one article.

I hire outsourcers myself on occasion and I am yet to offer work to the lowest bidder - I'm after quality, and if I don't think the lowest bidder can offer me what I want, then I'm more than happy to pay more to somebody who can.

Remember too, that people in the offline world aren't exposed to those to can offer much lower prices online - nor do they know where to find them. Usually it's the convenience of having you there and ready to go that makes you worth their money.

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And I thought I was the only one who likes to hang out in the Library,
Martin Luther King library in San Jose, Calif. to be exact , a lovely
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