"I don't want your crappy feeder product" - an open letter...

"WOW"

Honestly Marc, sorry about your experience! Try not to let kill your spirits about this forum. There are great business minded people here and some very brilliant people that truly want to help you succeed.

Truthfully if you SEARCH this forum you will find more than enough great information on almost EVERY IM topic that you can apply and grow your business and expand your mind with.

Look at it this way...you just paid $10 to learn who NOT to do business with!

God Bless,
Dwayne

It is not how many posts the warrior has or how long he/she has been registered here. Just do your research before buying. Just because the vendor is a warrior, don't buy the product.

Crapy products are everywhere on the internet, just it is waste of time buying them.

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Without getting into too much detail, why do you feel you got ripped off? Was it the size of the report? Was the content too generic and of no value? Was it poorly written and/or formatted? Was it bad advice? Just curious.

The biggest thing that stands out to me with your post is that you did not send your feedback to the product creator/seller. I think you should. There are any number of reasons why this product may not be to your liking, ranging from poor quality to simply not meeting your current needs and everything in between.

However, if you don't make your feedback known to the seller, then s/he will never have an opportunity to address it, either for you or for other customers.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Don't let that color your overall perception of WSOs or the forum. This place is packed with great people and great value. Hope you find what you're looking for next time around.

Cindy

Over delivering on a product is as important on low price item as it is on higher priced. With a low price product, you also get a chance to leave an impression if you give more than customers expect and therefore, in my opinion it's easier to build up your image if you do a good job on a lower price product.

With a higher priced item, you have to really invest a lot of time and energy in it.

Just my opinion though.

Marc,

If you bought a WSO and it sucked, it's not only your right to post your criticisms of the product, but also your duty as a Warrior to let us know so we can make informed buying decisions.

Curtis

There no pre-requisits for people to join this forum and pretty much anyone can offer a WSO or sell to other warriors so don't let the fact that 'it was a warrior' make any difference - The only people I truly consider warriors are those that come here and provide honest, useful information, advice and feedback. There are a lot of scammers, spammers, trolls and idiots also hanging around (and selling) here, so being a warrior as far as being a member is concerned doesn't really prequalify anyone as trustworthy.

Sorry you had a bad enough experience with whoever it was that you fealt the need to talk about it publicly.

I don't really understand why people are surprised at stuff like this....

How many times have you seen people giving advice to complete beginners of "create something to sell as a WSO".

It's been advice that has become prolific here lately and is the exact reason for things like this - if you tell people to make money by selling in the WSO section - some people will create 'anything' to sell there.

As a side note..

I don't think the OP is talking about a WSO... and if I got my thinking correct, I know exactly which product he is talking about.

Note to the OP... I could be wrong, but I think the person you purchased from did not actually write that list building report, he has MRR/PLR for the product. I'm not saying this should affect your opinion, I'm jus' sayin'

I agree with you about it being a joke When I saw him advertising it, I remember where I first saw it... It was a freebie in a giveaway or free for signing up to a list or sumthn like that....

Peace

Jay

What did you think you were going to get for $10?

Daniel

I can appreciate the post. I'm new to WF but I've known about it for years and just now finally joined, so I've never bought anything from a warrior.

I agree that it's up to us to buy with care and should not be suprised when something does not live up to it's perceived value.

I intend to sell stuff here to and posts like these will help me make sure that my products I put out, even small reports or "feeder" stuff, is good quality and useful.

Thanks for the post!

I am the guilty party here . Didn't think I had the balls to show up did you ?

First understand , the op has never contacted me in any fashion . There is a 30 day money back guarantee. Just contact me with the pay pal address and you will get refunded.

This report is an elementary introduction to list building . It is a mrr product with very little rearranging . If you know list building it is not for you .

Steven .... thanks for the review . I appreciate the offer for the ten bucks but do beleive I will let you keep it .

I think the humor induced by your trying to write from a newbie point of view was well worth more than $10. You can not have a subjective newbie mind set . Once you know ... you know .

Admittedly I should have probably thought a little more about the entire process. You know the process of testing a product , receiving information on the product , and acting upon the information .

The process usually involves putting the product in front of a live crowd and through interactions and return rates I can decide the best route to take.

Now you might be saying " Troy ... you have your information through the feedback presented here."

I can't take information seriously from sources such as a bad review from someone that opts to trash a product openly instead of starting a communication process that will result in getting their money back.

The only other review posted was from someone who ask for a bootlegged copy, received it from someone that didn't own rights , then proceeded to give opinion based on three different levels of marketing .

I don't feel the reviewer could be considered a newbie . The opinion from the more experienced marketer and advice from the "expert" were also given. Guess some people wear many hats.

Maybe I should have toned the sales page down a little . Yup... if taking a product sales page to the edge is a crime ... I am guilty. I should have realized that hyping a product is only for those that want to make a living online .

I am in no way defending the product . Most have liked it . I guess I know two who do not .

I am not even defending my decisions or marketing practices . The way I run my business is just that... my business. Opinions and suggestions from others are taken from a subjective point of view without regard to post count or supposed wisdom.

Once again to the op. Send me your pay pal address or transaction number ( not on here... pm or email me through pay pal) . I will refund within minutes of receiving the information I need .


I have taken the link down from the forum. I like it here and don't want to leave . If the Warrior Forum was my main source of income ... guess I would be screwed .. huh?

If any one source is our main income then we are in trouble anyway.

I feel your pain. 99.9% of the products I purchase on the Warrior Forum are gem. Most of the warriors always over deliver on their products and at times I feel they can sell these products for double than what they charge.

But I did buy one product that I spent $20 on that only took 3 minutes to read. It was a childish and unprofessional product. I asked for a refund and got it right away.

I read the reviews about the products and check their past history nowadays. You can't always believe the hype that they write about their own products...

If I can learn just ONE thing from a product, I view it as valuable and worth my time and money.

I've often bought products just because of one bullet point that I wanted to know about.

Not saying it's the case here, but lately I've seen quite a few people bashing WSO's because it didn't meet their standards. Keep in mind they paid less than $20 for the darn thing.

Should someone be ripped off just because the product had a low price? Absolutely not. But, just because every page wasn't full of information that you never knew doesn't make it a complete waste.

Sometimes people just don't get it. You can pick up on the people who don't "get it" just by reading their posts. And the funny part is, these are the same people who cry when they don't read something THEY like. And gosh forbid if you happen to point out that it's them that is the problem. Not the course they bought.

Again, I am NOT claiming that this is the case in this particular thread. Just a general observation.

I just wish more people would open up their eyes for a minute. I would gladly pay money for something if it contains that ONE missing piece I need. Or allows me to save time....you know, that thing we NEVER get back. I don't care if 99.9% of the product is stuff I already know. As long as I get at least one nugget from it, it was a good decision to buy.