Like many before, a simple request - advice/business manager.

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Hello warriors,

I've been a long time lurker and recent joiner. Several months ago I started up an online business which now though it is essentially ready to go, has not met much success due to it being in the electronics business. The products I can get at their current prices would hardly be worth listing due to the low profit margin.

I was by far a newbie when I came up with the idea and realized that the products I can sell have such stiff competition that I need to rethink my approach and come back again with a new website.

Over the course of this project, however, I learned quite a bit on how to successfully take care of and manage an ecommerce business. I feel like if I could find someone online who needs someone to take care of their already started business and make it better, I can learn enough to decide what to do next.

I see tons of threads on here asking for advice so I appreciate anyone who can lend me theirs as well. Should I stick with my website and try to make it in the ever difficult electronics business? Or should I try to find an existing business that needs trouble and make it better? Where would one even begin to locate an online business that needs management like that?

Thanks again for any replies. Though I do not consider myself a newbie anymore, I know the collective knowledge here is a great asset for beginners.

Best,
-Matthew Burns
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    Hi Matt, welcome to the forum. I think you are on the right track with your question: find a good market, and design your new business around what the market wants.

    Is electronics a passionate lifetime love, or just what you happened to work in so far? Maybe your background and interests have some clues about what might work better for you, unless you know for sure that you definitely want to stay in electronics.

    Let's see if we can get a plan together for you, that makes you so much money you'll need a new manager just to count it all.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Burns
      Chris,

      Thanks so much for the encouraging message! Electronics is definitely a passionate lifetime love, as I use many and follow all the new gadget releases very regularly. I really wish I could stay in electronics, but all the dealers I've found thus far (3 excellent ones) are all selling the products for around the google.com/product price and thus I would not be making any money off them.

      I made ecrater store for kids products that has actually sold a few things, but that just frustrated me even more because the ecrater store took 2 days to set up and my electronics website took nearly a month to get going and SEO'd. I've gone back and forth between which one to focus on and that has also added to my confusion, unfortunately.

      The logical approach from my learning thus far would be to find something people need that others aren't providing and capitalize on that, but the electronics niche is so crowded I feel frustrated every time I try to list another product I think is a good buy. Is trying to stand up against walmart and amazon something I should do?

      Thanks again for any comments. I appreciate all the help I can get.

      -Matt
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    OK, electronics it is if there is a way to make it pay.

    Electronics is a huge field! It includes everything from individual diodes to the Large Hadron Collider! Let's narrow it down. Would you prefer to sell electronics to individual consumers? Would you prefer a B2B business where you sell to distributors or retail stores? Would you rather deal with components? Circuit kits? Cool gadgets? Accessories? Things that work with a computer?

    Time for some brainstorming about what interests you, what you would like to be involved with.

    Don't think right now about whether or not there's money in it... that will be the next step. But don't sweat it yet. "Electronics" had over 80 million Google searches last month, "buy electronics" over 100,000, so somewhere in there is room for you.

    Can you generate 100 possibilities? Can you then prioritize Matt's top 10 favorite fun, fascinating things within the field of electronics?

    (Remember we're not looking to monetize yet, so it's OK if even the Large Collider is on your list. That might lead to selling DVD's of documentaries about it, or lead generation for tourism companies that give groups guided tours of the facility. Just fascination at this point.)
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Burns
      My business is named "Buy Home Electronics" with the domain name to match, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Haha.

      Ultimately, I'd love to sell them to individual customers. Cool gadgets and accessories are my calling, but almost anything within the field would satisfy me. I suppose thinking of the money is indeed the wrong approach.

      I don't even have to support myself with it. I really just want to do this as a hobby. I just got hired in to what I believe will be my career for the rest of my life and am almost finished with college. Ideally, I want this to be able to be not too much, and not too little so I can balance work and the side business. My endgame is to own an online store and have someone come to me out of the blue and tell me - Hey, thanks for all the great customer service and a good product!

      Have I gone too far down the path without proper planning? Or is the proper mindset that I am off to a good start? Thanks for all the advice thusfar Chris. Already I feel encouraged!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
        Originally Posted by Matt Burns View Post

        My business is named "Buy Home Electronics" with the domain name to match...Ultimately, I'd love to sell them to individual customers. Cool gadgets and accessories are my calling
        Sounds like you know what you love and your business name fits it pretty well.

        I suppose thinking of the money is indeed the wrong approach.
        Have you read anything by Jay Abraham? He has this killer phrase: "Don't fall in love with your products, fall in love with your customers." The point is to give your customers the products they love. I believe the most powerful order is to make sure you have a great mindset, then use that mindset to pick a great strategy, then everything else flows from that.

        So who do you want to serve? Fellow gadget lovers? What gadgets are hot these days? Cell phones for one! Maybe the word home would be a problem for someone who wants to buy a smart phone and take it with them. BuyMobileElectronics .com is available and might be a good additional name for phones, car electronics and other stuff outside the home.

        OK, find the thread "Almost ready to launch" where a couple of us are ganging up on another newbie who is learning about autoresponders. Read that and then start brainstorming what kind of newsletter or web site you could create that would be awesome for people in your field. Look at the top sellers in the gadget field and start thinking about which ones you'd like to be involved with.

        I'm gonna wrap up my WF time for the evening, maybe someone else can continue exploring ideas with you otherwise I'll see you back here tomorrow. Hopefully you will start to get inspired about some of your opportunities!
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Burns
    I'll be sure to check it out. I'd really like to find products that can fit with my current domain, as I've been working on it for months. Do you think I should use my time elsewhere or try to find a supplier for a product that fits my niche?

    Thanks so much Chris! Have a great evening, looking forward to continuing our discussion tomorrow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    Matt, I suspect we might need to take this discussion to private message or email if nobody else joins in. I was hoping we'd get some additional perspective from other members! I'm a bit under the weather today so I'd like for us to continue this next week.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author xiaophil
      I agree with Mr Enthusiastic that it may be a good idea to tighten your focus a bit and perhaps specialize in a few key products initially.

      I'm wondering if you might be able to add some value to your offerings and differentiate yourself in the marketplace by creating and including some tutorial material for the products you sell. Some electronic gadgets are very complex devices and the end user may only use a small number of the more obvious functions.

      I know of people making a full time living purely from selling tutorial videos for complex consumer gadgets, and I think it's worth considering as both a marketing tactic and possible supplemental income stream.

      You clearly enjoy working with this stuff, and have products to hand. A quick video overview of the gadget and it's benefits would be a great marketing piece and teaser into your complete tutorial, which could be sold separately or bundled 'free' with the product itself.

      Yes, there will be some extra work to create the videos, and they should really be fairly polished, but that's not rocket science. Nowadays its pretty inexpensive and straightforward. Bill Myers has a great video workshop available which specifically targets producing this kind of material (product review videos), and covers everything from sets and lighting to editing and publishing.

      Competing on price in consumer electronics is tough, and I think it's more important to look at ways you can add value instead. By initially selecting and focusing on a few core products, you could position yourself as an expert by producing supplemental information products, which themselves can also be sold on. It may even be possible to base your whole marketing campaign around this.

      Food for thought anyway.

      Cheers,
      Phil
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