Can content do it alone?

theteach · 12-06-2009, 06:30 PM

I came across a website about India. The site had about 2000 pages of unique content. The site's pr was quite high and there were many inbound links (I'm assuming because he had a lot of content).

It would be safe to assume that this site has a serious amount of traffic.

My question is, as you can see in the thread title,

Can content do it alone?

JamesPenn · 12-06-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theteach

I came across a website about India. The site had about 2000 pages of unique content. The site's pr was quite high and there were many inbound links (I'm assuming because he had a lot of content).

It would be safe to assume that this site has a serious amount of traffic.

My question is, as you can see in the thread title,

Can content do it alone?

Probably not completely alone.

But if you provide interesting content then people will link to you, socially bookmark you and start talking about you.

I remember John Reese saying once that getting positions in the search engines is like taking part in the lottery... the more tickets (pages) you have, the more chance you have of winning (taking the top spots).

Mark Hess · 12-06-2009, 06:41 PM

You better believe it...

Content is what drives the Internet.

Our job as Internet marketers and/or bloggers is to provide the content people are searching for.

We then monetize that content through affiliate marketing, cpa offers, paid advertising, adsense, etc. and make money.

Articles you submit, a YouTube video you create, even a post on Twitter is online content. Without people doing this, the Internet would not exist.

Everything online is user generated.

Being able to create a large amount of content focused on a particular subject is what niche marketing is all about.

Quality, unique content (and lots of it) is the one way you are GUARANTEED high search rankings. (<---- This is true and you hear it from Google all the time)

CDarklock · 12-06-2009, 06:44 PM

Over time, yes. But it does take time... and you have to target a niche where people care about your content.

bgmacaw · 12-06-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkH45

Quality, unique content (and lots of it) is the one way you are GUARANTEED high search rankings.

"Build it and they will come" only works in the movies.

The Dotcom Hippie · 12-06-2009, 07:06 PM

I'd say no. Because it's a total hit and miss approach. Like bgmacaw says, "build it and they will come" only works in the movies.

Depending on what you're doing, it's getting pretty hard to get noticed in a lot of areas now, and even if you are then most of the links you get aren't of the kind you want. For that reason, you probably need to take care of a lot of the link building yourself if you want to rank for the meaningful stuff. It's a myth that Google loves quality content - RELEVANT content and good linkbuilding is what gets you ranking well. While quality means more than it did in the past and Google also cares more about the site any particular page belongs to than it used to, you can still outrank big, quality sites with a a tiny butt ugly blog that nobody actually likes as long as you know what you're doing at all steps in the process (including deciding what it's worth trying to rank for, of course).

Besides, once people have come to your site it isn't always the greatest content that gets them to click your ads the most, to put it mildly...

This reminds me that I have to write a thing on The Not So Glorious Truth About How You Actually Make Money With AdSense. Should be fun. Some people won't like it.

hotftuna · 12-06-2009, 07:11 PM

The links that good content attracts are the kind of links that boost rankings in the SERP's long term.

2000 pages of quality content related to one topic would do the trick.

CDarklock · 12-06-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dotcom Hippie

I'd say no. Because it's a total hit and miss approach.

But can it hit?

The question isn't whether the average site can succeed without anything more than quality content. It's whether content alone can be enough. And the answer is "yes" - but you have to have enough high-quality content in a niche people give a damn about.

I don't think this guy did it with JUST content, for example:

Ian's Shoelace Site - Introduction

Quote:

This reminds me that I have to write a thing on The Not So Glorious Truth About How You Actually Make Money With AdSense. Should be fun. Some people won't like it.

If it's what I think it is, I'll completely agree with you.

Zeus66 · 12-06-2009, 07:25 PM

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Ian's Shoelace Site - Introduction

Oh great. Thanks Caliban. Now I've officially seen everything and have to stop using the Internet. I'll get you for this.

The Dotcom Hippie · 12-06-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CDarklock

But can it hit?

The question isn't whether the average site can succeed without anything more than quality content. It's whether content alone can be enough. And the answer is "yes" - but you have to have enough high-quality content in a niche people give a damn about.

I don't think this guy did it with JUST content, for example:

Ian's Shoelace Site - Introduction

You're right, of course. It can hit. But I don't think it does for most people.

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Originally Posted by CDarklock

If it's what I think it is, I'll completely agree with you.

Perhaps you will indeed, my friend.

Dan C. Rinnert · 12-06-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus66

Oh great. Thanks Caliban. Now I've officially seen everything and have to stop using the Internet. I'll get you for this.

In that case, here you go:

The Very Last Page On The Internet

Nick Brighton · 12-06-2009, 07:42 PM

Can content "do what"? exactly?

It can probably get you some SE traffic if you put enough up, but that doesn't mean much anyway.

The only content worth caring about has to be more than "unique", it has to presell, inspire, be passed around, inform, educate and get attention.

In that respect, traffic and sales come hands free, because your content gets talked about, syndicated etc...AND you make sales from it.

I'm not saying it's easy, but that's the only goal I have when I write for promotional purposes.

The Dotcom Hippie · 12-06-2009, 07:43 PM

Damn that guy is killing it in the shoelace tying niche!!!!!§§!"

CDarklock · 12-06-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus66

Thanks Caliban. Now I've officially seen everything and have to stop using the Internet.

Not quite. I just wrote the site owner an email reminding him that he doesn't seem to have any systems of tying double-upper shoes on his site.

DogScout · 12-06-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDarklock

But can it hit?

I don't think this guy did it with JUST content, for example:

Ian's Shoelace Site - Introduction

You should have seen alan's marbles

the worst part is he is rebuilding it. Lol.

rjrv10 · 12-06-2009, 07:51 PM

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theteach HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 176 Thanks: 102 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Can content do it alone? I came across a website about India. The site had about 2000 pages of unique content. The site's pr was quite high and there were many inbound links (I'm assuming because he had a lot of content). It would be safe to assume that this site has a serious amount of traffic. My question is, as you can see in the thread title, Can content do it alone?
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The Dotcom Hippie HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 116 Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Can content do it alone? I'd say no. Because it's a total hit and miss approach. Like bgmacaw says, "build it and they will come" only works in the movies. Depending on what you're doing, it's getting pretty hard to get noticed in a lot of areas now, and even if you are then most of the links you get aren't of the kind you want. For that reason, you probably need to take care of a lot of the link building yourself if you want to rank for the meaningful stuff. It's a myth that Google loves quality content - RELEVANT content and good linkbuilding is what gets you ranking well. While quality means more than it did in the past and Google also cares more about the site any particular page belongs to than it used to, you can still outrank big, quality sites with a a tiny butt ugly blog that nobody actually likes as long as you know what you're doing at all steps in the process (including deciding what it's worth trying to rank for, of course). Besides, once people have come to your site it isn't always the greatest content that gets them to click your ads the most, to put it mildly... This reminds me that I have to write a thing on The Not So Glorious Truth About How You Actually Make Money With AdSense. Should be fun. Some people won't like it.

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