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I'm making this thread to get more ideas on how to improve the value of your existing product. Here's a start. Say you have got a 50 page ebook with great quality content. So, why don't you use some or all of what's in the ebook and turn it into a series of quality videos. Suddenly (well, after some work) you have a 50 page quality product with a video series to go with it. But why stop there, when you can make or outsource making that 50 page book into audio. What do you have now?
Well, you could also make "cheat sheets"/short cuts with a 1 page summary of each chapter of the book. And how about setting up a password protected, members only blog where you post all of the above content, and let members ask questions and so on. And how about interviewing some hot shots in your niche? Should be fairly easy to find questions to ask them if you have made a 50 page product? And when you are done with all the above, there are probably some bits and pieces you didn't get to use, so why not make another little video series with "Tips and tricks learnt along the way". What do you have now?
Need an upsell? Well, after creating all this content, the topic of your product is presumably something you have good insight into. So you could offer: Unlimited e-mail coaching for $97 a month 6 half hour coaching calls for $397 a month And so on! Prices may vary! And we haven't even touched on making this into a physical product, and I'm sure some of you reading this thread will have valuable tips on that. So, what's your techniques to create more value in your product? Edit: added some more ways to improve value: You should build a list before you launh your main product. If you do this, you can for example do: - teleseminars (make sure you record them!) - survey your list to find out what problems they struggle with in regards to the topic you are covering. Answer those questions. Make it a "YOUR questions answered"-book. - Give them sneak previews of the product, and ask them to answer a questionaire of how your product has helped them. And if your product get really large, you could make a special overview book, a study guide, that tells in which way and order you think the customers should go through the materials. So now you have:
And as said by warriors below, you can make some of or the whole of your product available as a physical product. If you work really hard over time, you might have a product line that looks like this:
PS! I've edited the title of this thread from "How to actually make your $7 product into a $97 product?" to "How to actually make your $7 product into a $4997 product line?" Keep the ideas coming, people! |
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very true... at the end of the day, it's all about perceived value... if u can up the perception, you can up the price thnx pj |
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$97?? With all that content and value people will be getting a bargain at that price! |
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Indeed no need to re-invent the wheel, just offer something that is unique from your competition, and I have not seen too many products designed like this | |
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The reason I posted $97 in the thread title, is because some people don't believe they can make a product worth even $17 or $27. So if I had posted $397 or more in the thread title, it would probably make them go and and then and if they saw me be like then the flaming would start | |
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Good stuff, but there is one more KEY issue. In fact, it is probably the single most important piece of the pie. The real key here is this - Copy that shows the value is higher than $97. No matter how voluminous the materials, without effective copy no one will pay even $7 for your them. Better mousetraps don't sell, better marketing does. |
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Good post Bjarne, and Thanks Button hit. You can add even more value to your product by burning the whole lot to DVD. Also, upload your ebooks and cheat sheets to Lulu. Now people can buy hard copies too. Glenn |
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wow..I'm bookmarking this thread for future reference! thanks a bunch!
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I wasn't trying to pick on the OP, but in my experience after helping start over 6,000 internet businesses, this is NOT a given in many people's minds. Look at this forum as an example: How many people have a product and a website and then come here asking "How can I get traffic?" The reality is you shouldn't create a product UNTIL YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET TRAFFIC TO IT. The product idea might come first, then market research, then a clear marketing plan and FINALLY a product that fulfills the marketing concept. Otherwise people are doomed to a great product with no sales. Happens all the time. | |
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I think it's important that the product looks good both at the front end and the back end. The sales copy needs to be good, and so should the sales page graphics. But you need to make it look good after the sale is done too. You could for example have different graphics/icons for video, audio, mp3, podcast, ebook and so on. Let the customer see clearly what kind of materials they get by using product graphics to separate the different kinds of materials from each other. |
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this is great advice laid out in a nice step by step plan! unfortunately, i'm still stuck on step one...trying to write the 50 page ebook |
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| RainDrop: Just remember that you don't need to reinvent the wheel. If you can show others how to use the wheel, you are on your way. If you can show others how, why, where, when and with whom to use the wheel in the most effective way imaginable, and express this using your own words and thoughts - and cite and credit others where needed, you are way ahead of the pack. |
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THanks a lot for this great post. I also added video to my ebook to make my product more valuable, but I haven't even thought about all the other possibilities. Thanks a bunch.
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Good ideas. Yeah -- we surely can improve our product price by adding some traditional feature on it instead just sell original product.
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I'm afraid there is little value in that sort of model. Who would pay $97, especially in this economic climate for some videos and an ebook? You may get one or two...sure, but it's unlikely to fly off the shelves. You are better off keeping it at $7 with an upsell of $27 or $37 on the backend for the videos. |
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troy23: I just did a major update to the first post in this thread. I'm not saying that you should hit your customer with an expensive product the first time he "sees" you. I'm just trying to gather ways you can make your product worth more with the least amount of extra work. And that is often by leveraging material you have already made in better and more effective ways. And yes, I know, killer copy is must! |
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So what you're basically talking about it changing the format of a product. I think it would be far more effective to develop NEW related products that compliment your existing products and then sell those. f you already have a list of buyers (from product A) then surely you are likely to sell plenty of product B to those buyers. Then just repeat the process. Deliver deliver deliver!
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No,no, I'm not suggesting doing only one or the other, I'm saying you can do both. Or whatever you like ![]() If I buy a product and get the option to watch it as a video, read it, listen to it in my car or on my i-pod, then I'd pay more than just to merely receive an ebook. Well, personally I prefer to read, but many may like better to hear or to watch. Almost all higher priced information products consist of information provided in more than one format. |
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I detest posts like this because you are focused on your own pockets and not in any real value for the customer. This is greed, pure or less. It is best to overdeliver than to suck your client dry! |
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strangely enough, this is what frank kern recommends you do in mass control 2.0 and charge a higher price irregardless of what others charge in your niche.
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Of course a BUSINESS is focused on profits. Who's running a non profit IM business around here? #2. A by product of focusing on profits necessitates giving them what they want and creating value. Otherwise, uhm how do you sell something people don't value? That's the whole basis for economic exchange transaction. #3. What the h*ll kind of way are you planning to overdeliver, if making the information more digestable and understandable through videos and worksheets and interviews is not overdelivering? Write on gold bars? Nobody said the information is bad to begin with or without value. He's just showing how to turn it into something people will really be wowed with and learn the most possible, and yes find more valuable than just an ebook. FYI People are happy to spend the money for things like that, and the people that have historically gone the extra mile to make things like this are some of the biggest names and most respected in the business. The MMO crowd is a weird bunch... I got to take a break from this place. | |
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When I make my first real product it will not be a $4997 product. It may be a $10 ebook. I understand how some may see this thread about sucking clients dry. But the way I see it, it actually is about overdelivering. If someone produces the best product in his or her niche, becomes THE authority on the topic, invests hundreds of hours of his or her time and knowledge into it, makes multiple products, and then, somewhere down the line decides to produce the ultimate product in his or her niche and charge $4997 for it, saving the person who buys it from spending all that time, resources and money on this himself, how is that wrong? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy a $4997 product. If they are, then that's what the police are there for... If there was no such thing as perceived value, and all people who bought anything would only use logic, then all car ads could look like this: "Car. Takes you from A to B. Buy it now." | |
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[QUOTE=Kevin-VirtualProfitCenter;1469619] The reality is you shouldn't create a product UNTIL YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET TRAFFIC TO IT. [QUOTE] This is so true. Here's my strategy: 1. keyword research - find profitable keywords (most important and hardest part) 2. building super optimized 'place holder' site around a few highly profitable keywords, offering free/very-cheap product 3. building backlinks and getting the site to #1 - #3 in google - getting a lot of traffic and building a list 4. creating already planned product and replacing the home page with high converting sales letter. Emailing the list about the product. |
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Thats what this forum is for, discussions on how to make more money from your client base. How to increase profits, and make more money Oh did i say this forum is about making money, and how to find ways to make more money ![]() To remind you this is a copy of the main forum description Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum (569 Viewing) => Where We Talk About Making Money <= | |
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[quote=Alminc;1491308][QUOTE=Kevin-VirtualProfitCenter;1469619] The reality is you shouldn't create a product UNTIL YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET TRAFFIC TO IT. Quote:
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Two more things you can do with your content... 1. Sell resale rights. 2. If you're making money with all this... write down what you did and sell this as a "Case study" / "Blueprint" / "System" for making money. Marc |
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wow thanks, that really helps.
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You might be doing them a favour charging $4997 as they will then not buy another ebook for ages and focus on your method That is very altruistic of you!
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You are awesome.,What a way of getting business?
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Hi Bjarne, This is an awesome post and one everybody with their own product should read. I am actually going down this route myself now as I have my own free ebook but am going to transform the content into a monthly continuity site. It will have most of the above - videos, interviews, webinars and personal access to me each month via Q&A sessions. You have hit the nail right on the head regarding repurposing and reusing material and if done properly, you can massively overdeliver to your customers which a product line and service second to none! I will be implementing this early in 2010, it should be a very interesting year :-) David |
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[quote=Alminc;1491308][QUOTE=Kevin-VirtualProfitCenter;1469619] The reality is you shouldn't create a product UNTIL YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET TRAFFIC TO IT. Quote:
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Hi Bjarne, You are right. The potential is there, in your exposé. But we aren't alike. If someone has affinity then he'll notice and apply it in his business. Good work. Cheers, Sandor | |
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Bjarne, For lack of better words, I'll say that you've opened my eyes. I mean... what a fantastic idea! Not that we've not seen it being implemented before, but we never thought about it, at least not me. I guess that's what differentiates the best (you and many veterans here at the WF) and me. You guys are true entrepreneurs, and a big inspiration to the new guys like me. So, thanks for posting this thread... I bow to thee ![]() I have a question though... Would it apply to non-IM niches as well? The way I see it, it primarily applies to coaching programs only, IM or non-IM. Please let me know if these things/this idea can be used anywhere else, other than coaching programs? Are there any such products/programs in the non-IM niches out there? It could be worth trying hands at their affiliate programs, to start with. |
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Great Post, you just gave me an idea to the one i have to see if i can make $50,000 next month in the Dating/Relationship market.
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Expotential growth from a single seed idea, its a lesson everyone should have written in their "wow" list.
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Nice unpack Bjarne, not many people know how to unpack an offer like this. Adding perceved value is not about ripping people off if you do it ethically and add true value to the purchaser. You can make a nice unpack as above and in the process it sparks other ideas and content that you can include for the buyer. Just keep in mind not to fill it with fluff, I recently brought a package from a big name and found that it was full of filler and no real value, so a refund is in motion. So unpacking and adding massive percieved value is cool as long you deliver at least what you offer. BTW love the title |
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Well,nice tips.Sometimes,videos and audios are easier to accept by others than texts or words.It seems that you're so professional at the website market.I think you can design your own website with you sole idea and then benefit much from it.wow,genius.
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If your niche is horse grooming, you could make an ebook, you could make videos showing how to, you could interview experts, you could interview a veterinarian, you could make tips sheets, you could make other horse related info products and so on and so on. You don't have to do mentoring or coaching if you don't want to. | |
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I totally agree with the concept of creating a long range funnel, diverse price points, and even the high scale products. However, in some niches, let's say like Personal Development, you would have to establish more than just trust with your list, I would assume. Why? Because at $ 4,997, you would be competing with internationally recognized best selling authors with more social proof behind them than a 10 page letter and a long sequence of e-mails could provide. Anthony Robbins? He's counseled Hall of Fame Athletes, a US President, Fortune 500 execs, etc. Would I possibly spend $ 5K with him? Sure. Would I spend $ 5K with your average internet marketer in the self development field? Not even a chance. An above average marketer in the same field? Not a chance. Definitely just my opinion, not the rule. From my perspective the kind of people that could command this amount of money in many different fields and markets would shape like a pyramid. Would I buy a $ 27 product from someone who lacks an established, well known and respected name? Sure. It's 27 bucks. Not a big deal. Would I buy a $ 97 product? The list just got smaller. Would I buy a $ 4,997 product? The list just became exclusive. Again, these are just my trains of thought and I am from New York where you are born skeptical. |
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Thanks for this, this is a great outline for anyone starting from nothing and growing their company and value as well. To your freedom and success, Joel |
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This is exactly what i've been after for aaaaaaaaaaaages !!! Thank you loads!! | |
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The economy has been in the dumps for at least a year. During that time there have been several multi-million dollar product launches featuring products sold in the range of $2000. I suggest that if you BELIEVE all you can get is $7 - $27 - $37, you're right. Others have less limiting beliefs... obviously. Tsnyder | |
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