Mailing List Mistakes

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I'm subscribed to about 20-30 IM mailing lists at any given time, and I see the same mistakes being made over and over. Most are newbie mistakes, so if you're new to running a mailing list or aren't having much luck at converting subscribers into sales, here are eight tips for you to consider.

1) The most common mistake I see is as soon as the marketer gets you on his or her mailing list, you're immediate bombarded by affiliate offers. News flash: Just because you got someone on your list doesn't mean you've earned their trust.

After reading "the money is in the list" enough they seem to have bought into it as though that's the gospel truth. The money is NOT in the list, it's in your relationship to your list.

Solution: Give before you receive. By offering useful information or free products first, your readers will come to appreciate you quicker, and hence, learn to trust you sooner.

Caution: You can give too much as well as not enough. You don't want your readers to become conditioned to expect everything for free. Mix things up, don't ask for a sale with every mailing, sometimes just send out "goodies" they'll like. The principle of social reciprocity will win you sales in time as long as your offers are of interest and fairly priced.

Here's a great example: I purchased a WSO from a fellow Warrior a few days ago. I'd never heard of him before, but I got 16 good quality PLR videos for a great price. The first email he sent (other than the download link) was to give me 5 more PLR videos on another topic. He did to draw my attention to the fact that he'll be releasing a new PLR series soon. He got my attention! If the new series fits in with my marketing subjects and the price is good, I'll buy it. How's that for marketing...he's got me looking forward to spending money with him!

2) Don't wear out your welcome. I've been on lists where the marketer sends out an email every single day, sometimes multiple times each day. One guy sent me 5 emails the first day I was on his list, each promoting the latest and greatest get rich quick product. He lost me on the first day he had me.

When you bombard your subscribers like that it makes you look desperate and greedy. It's not a good way to convert subscribers into sales. It is a good way to lose subscribers though.

Solution: Remember, it's a privilege for you when someone subscribes to your mailing list, but you can lose them much more easily than you got them. Judge the value of your emails from your subscribers' perspective. Are you really trying to help them or are you just trying to pick their pockets?
"You can get anything you want in life if you help enough others get what they want."
- Zig Ziglar
3) Don't be a shill for every product that comes along just because there's a good commission. I once had a marketer send an email praising a certain product, saying he endorsed it 100%, but the product and the product owner both were developing a bad reputation.

Out of curiosity I wrote the marketer back and asked him if he'd actually tried the product he praised so highly and, to his credit, he confessed he hadn't. He was an affiliate pimp.

Remember this: Once your subscriber believes you're prostituting yourself for a commission you'll never have their trust again!

On the other hand, I don't personally endorse products I haven't tried myself. My readers know that, so my endorsement carries weight with them. My reward? A mailing list of well over 10,000 subscribers. It's not the biggest list in the world, but it's not bad either.

Solution: Choose the products you promote with care or your reputation can go down the same toilet as the unethical marketer. I never ask anyone to endorse my products without offering them a review copy, and if you want my endorsement be prepared to offer a review copy to me or you won't get it - and if your product is crap you still won't get it.

4) Just because you're writing to dozens, hundreds, or thousands of people, don't write like you are - write like you're writing to one person. Why? People aren't sitting around in a group reading your email, it's being read by one person at a time.

Wrong: I've got a special offer for everyone today.

Right: I've got a special offer for you today.

If possible, use mail merge. That's where mailing software will substitute a value for a token. For example, if your subscribers are keep in a database where their first name is kept as a unique entry, you can code something like [first_name] into your email and the mailing software will replace the token with the subscribers first name in every email sent.

Hint: Most people like seeing their own name! Mailing services like Aweber and Get Response have mail merge capabilities. Learning how to use it will help you develop a relationship with your subscribers.

Having your email start off with "Hi John" is far better than starting off with "Hi" or "Dear Friend" or whatever. Remember, every subscriber is special, but it's up to you to make them feel that way.

5) Do you know what the "preview" pane of an email client is? Obviously it's to preview an email to see if you want to read it.

A lot of emails get deleted after a very quick preview, so the intended recipient doesn't read your message beyond the first paragraph or two. If your message isn't being read, the response you hope for won't happen.

Solution: Write your email messages so that there's a compelling reason to open the email visible in the preview pane. If you don't the open rate will be much lower than it should be.

6) Make your words provide the emphasis. In other words, avoid using ALL CAPS and multiple exclamation marks!!! to create emphasis in your message. These tricks make your message look like hype.

Solution: A single exclamation mark where one would be expected is not a problem, but if you have to use these lazy tricks in your message to create points of emphasis, you haven't thought out your message well enough. Think, rewrite, and polish your message so these amateur tactics aren't needed.

7) Use the full URL to reference websites because not every email client turns www,whatever.com into a clickable link, but most will turn http;//www.whatever.com into a link.

8) Let your customer's give you content ideas by reading their emails. If they are having problems, or don't understand something, these are clues that you might be able to turn into content or products.

Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    Awesome post! Thank you for the info. I will use what you are saying there! I have received a lot of emails with just the opposite of what you are saying in this thread and they get deleted quickly.

    If the content is just a bunch of fluff and junk, I get rid of it real quick.
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    • Profile picture of the author rags2richy
      Nice informative post! This advice is much appreciated
      and more list builders should take it.

      I actually am starting to build a nice list myself, and I feel
      the same way, and sometimes writing these emails can be
      very stressful! Right now I have and immediate email that
      goes out thanking them for requesting more info and an
      introduction of myself.

      Just by sending this one email introducing myself, people
      know there is a real person on the other side, and I have
      actually received personal emails back, where people spill
      their guts back to me. From there we start a personal relationship,
      and I really do not need to send those individuals anymore
      follow-ups.

      Great advice. Thanks Again for this post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shana_Adam
    Wow Bravo for having the patience to be subscribed to that many lists.

    I get annoyed at the watered down diluted emails that constantly bombard your inbox as if Hitler was in fashion.

    Seemingly sometimes 3 emails on the same day from the same people! Why ? I surmise to delight me with the news that I'm broke and they are raking in the cash like there is no tomorrow. Thank you for letting me know and how can I be of service to you - oh yes just make me rich that little bit more by buying this $97 product, and dont worry Ive added in all these freebies for you so you in effect you are getting it all free!

    Its too bad I have a brain!

    Hence I have a greater respect for my inbox now. Be very careful when giving your email out to some one you dont know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Shana_Adam View Post

      Wow Bravo for having the patience to be subscribed to that many lists.
      lol - I should point out before anyone else tries this, that I don't use my primary email address for these lists. I use a few throwaway addresses so when it gets too overwhelming I can just delete the account.

      @ Paul - Thanks for the kind words Paul. That's high praise indeed coming from someone as well known and respected as you are in the Warrior Forum. The respect is definitely mutual.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Dennis,

        I suspect it's more that I amuse them.

        Those aren't kind words, Dennis. They're just truth.

        I'm not sure how long I've been subscribed to AAN, but it's at least 6 years. I had to look up the receipt for the registration thing you did back in 12/2003 to be sure of even that. I'd probably been subscribed for a year or three by then.

        I don't read every issue (of anything but "This Is True"), but when I make the time to read AAN, the personal perspectives are what reminds me why I stay on the list. Always fun and thought-provoking.

        I recommended your list because I think people here can learn a lot about crafting quality content from it. The fact that it's from "The Booj" is just a bonus.


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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
          Dennis, I appreciate your post and I agree. Just this week I unsubscribed to a couple of lists for the simple reason that I was bombarded a couple of times a day with "buy this" messages...
          :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Dennis,

          I suspect it's more that I amuse them.

          Those aren't kind words, Dennis. They're just truth.

          I'm not sure how long I've been subscribed to AAN, but it's at least 6 years. I had to look up the receipt for the registration thing you did back in 12/2003 to be sure of even that. I'd probably been subscribed for a year or three by then.

          I don't read every issue (of anything but "This Is True"), but when I make the time to read AAN, the personal perspectives are what reminds me why I stay on the list. Always fun and thought-provoking.

          I recommended your list because I think people here can learn a lot about crafting quality content from it. The fact that it's from "The Booj" is just a bonus.


          Paul
          LOL - If you remember "booj" you are a long time subscriber! But, you don't read every issue? I'm going to have to look you up and force you to buy me a beer for that!
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            Dennis,
            LOL - If you remember "booj" you are a long time subscriber!
            Did you think I was kidding?
            But, you don't read every issue? I'm going to have to look you up and force you to buy me a beer for that!
            HAH! Fat chance. (No force needed.)

            Leave the Bichon Freeze (geographically appropriate naming) home, though. They hog the juke box and the beer.


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            • Profile picture of the author Alumni
              great great post
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Most of the posts on this subject are from clueless gits, with no experience, no brains, and less common sense.

    This one, however, is brought to you by BoogieJack, the publisher of "Almost a Newsletter." One of the cooler publications to which I subscribe. BoogieJack.com HTML and CSS Tutorials

    Dennis has been at this for over 10 years, and still puts out cool stuff. I recommend giving him a bit more attention than the typical poster on this subject.

    And signing up for his 'almost' newsletter. It's fun.


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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    1; Although I agree with going the relationship route ..... several marketers make a great living with no relationship.

    A bunch of free crap is still crap at the end of the day . Instead of filling members hard drives with dust collectors ... fill their heads with usable knowledge.

    2; If you are a new marketer and I send you an idea a day that makes you money or makes life easier in general..... do I get deleted ?

    More than offer a day ... well that is a short lived business model.

    3; I very seldom promote anything but my own stuff anymore . I refuse to promote anything I have not used myself .

    I have made enough blunders all by my self . Sure do not need some untested product losing credibility for me .

    4; Great advice but ... have you ever got emails that say hey {first-name} because the software wasn't coded correctly ?

    5; 6; 7; Great advice .

    8; Pure gold nugget here . Subscriber feedback is a product they are asking for by name .
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      1; Although I agree with going the relationship route ..... several marketers make a great living with no relationship.

      A bunch of free crap is still crap at the end of the day . Instead of filling members hard drives with dust collectors ... fill their heads with usable knowledge.

      2; If you are a new marketer and I send you an idea a day that makes you money or makes life easier in general..... do I get deleted ?

      More than offer a day ... well that is a short lived business model.

      3; I very seldom promote anything but my own stuff anymore . I refuse to promote anything I have not used myself .

      I have made enough blunders all by my self . Sure do not need some untested product losing credibility for me .

      4; Great advice but ... have you ever got emails that say hey {first-name} because the software wasn't coded correctly ?

      5; 6; 7; Great advice .

      8; Pure gold nugget here . Subscriber feedback is a product they are asking for by name .
      Hi Troy,

      1. They do have a relationship of some sort, but it's not always obvious. The point of that point is that you can't just take from your subscribers, especially if you have no reputation, you have to give too or you won't last long. As for "crap" as you put it, I did say useful information or free products. Either way works as long it's something they can use. I'm not talking about giving junk out.

      2. If you don't get my interest in the first paragraph or two, you'll get deleted. Remember, I'm speaking to newbies. They don't have a reputation yet. They can't count on past successes causing people to open read their entire email. Information is everywhere, if people feel their time is being wasted, the delete button gets pushed. That's just the way it is.

      3. Me too, but most newbies don't have their own products. Affiliate marketing is easy to get into, so many go this route when they're starting out.

      4. Yeah, quite a bit, lol. That's why I said to learn how to use it. You have to practice on yourself first.

      5-8. I'm glad you agree!

      Whatever you can use from my post, take it with my blessing. Whatever you can't use, feel free to leave it on the page.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        I didn't mean to imply you were giving out junk. Could have said it a different way but I was actually agreeing with you . '

        All and all an excellent post . oh yeah You just got a new list member :-)

        I always try to pay attention to those who know .


        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Hi Troy,

        1. They do have a relationship of some sort, but it's not always obvious. The point of that point is that you can't just take from your subscribers, especially if you have no reputation, you have to give too or you won't last long. As for "crap" as you put it, I did say useful information or free products. Either way works as long it's something they can use. I'm not talking about giving junk out.

        2. If you don't get my interest in the first paragraph or two, you'll get deleted. Remember, I'm speaking to newbies. They don't have a reputation yet. They can't count on past successes causing people to open read their entire email. Information is everywhere, if people feel their time is being wasted, the delete button gets pushed. That's just the way it is.

        3. Me too, but most newbies don't have their own products. Affiliate marketing is easy to get into, so many go this route when they're starting out.

        4. Yeah, quite a bit, lol. That's why I said to learn how to use it. You have to practice on yourself first.

        5-8. I'm glad you agree!

        Whatever you can use from my post, take it with my blessing. Whatever you can't use, feel free to leave it on the page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    @ Troy - No problem, I didn't take your comment personally. Thanks for the kind words and for subscribing!

    @ Paul - Bichon "Freeze" is right, we got hammered with a winter storm last night. As for the dog hogging the beer, you're probably right, that little dog is a bottomless pit.
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