Is Freelancing too competitive for people that live in the United States?

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I live in the United States and I am trying to start a link building business but it seems like people are not willing to pay a decent amount of money here.

For example, people at other sites work for as little as 4 dollars an hour. We all know that in America, that is not enough, with rising prices.

Is it possible to get at least 8-10 an hour doing this?

If so, what are the secrets?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
    I don't know what people would be willing to pay when it comes to backlinking but if you want to make more money than the others, you need to give potential customers more value than they do.

    Are there complaints about the other services? Can you address those complaints with your service?

    Just some thoughts,
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  • Profile picture of the author scattermouse
    Originally Posted by ProductCreator View Post

    Freelancing rates do suck. So you need to leverage where possible.

    I am now making PLR, this is great leverage.
    Also leverage the fact that your native language is English. For articles, this will still only get you around 5 bucks per article.
    I've been paid 5 times that for a 500 word article. There are people here on the WF who get paid 50 bucks or more per article.

    Let me try to explain:

    There's a market for shoddy content that gets churned out in 5 minutes and gets put on MFA sites and article directories. This market will pay 5 bucks per page as an absolute maximum.

    There is also a market for quality, well researched writing - for highly respected blogs, for example - and this market will pay much more, and demand much more in return.

    Work at building up a reputation for both the quality of your writing and your customer service, and you will build your appeal to this second market.



    I have no experience with linkbuilding, but I would imagine you can command a much higher price by offering a full SEO package with lots of bells and whistles, and committing to customer service.
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    • Profile picture of the author Taylor French
      Originally Posted by scattermouse View Post

      I've been paid 5 times that for a 500 word article. There are people here on the WF who get paid 50 bucks or more per article.

      Let me try to explain:

      There's a market for shoddy content that gets churned out in 5 minutes and gets put on MFA sites and article directories. This market will pay 5 bucks per page as an absolute maximum.

      There is also a market for quality, well researched writing - for highly respected blogs, for example - and this market will pay much more, and demand much more in return.

      Work at building up a reputation for both the quality of your writing and your customer service, and you will build your appeal to this second market.



      I have no experience with linkbuilding, but I would imagine you can command a much higher price by offering a full SEO package with lots of bells and whistles, and committing to customer service.

      No, there are people who claim to get paid $50 per article. Most of the people here on WF who claim to make $25 to $50 per article do not get consistent work at that price level. I say most, because there will always be exceptions.

      But you can see evidence of the deception in the fact that some of those people who claim to get paid so much per article end up needing donations for simple deposits for homes or practically begging their email lists for Christmas money by offering some deeply discounted prices on services. I've seen things like this time and time again.

      Just because people claim that's what they charge doesn't mean they actually get it on any kind of consistent basis.

      A good friend of mine has been a freelance writer for years, and she said her whole world is crashing down on her because no one will pay even a third of what they would a year ago. She's losing everything, and she is desperately looking for a job now.

      And this is an extremely reliable person who has always put her customers first, always completes work on time without fail, and does top notch work.

      Things aren't always what they seem.
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      • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
        It revolves around value.

        How much of a problem do you solve?
        Who are you targeting with the solutions?
        What message are you sending?

        I know several US based freelancers (I interviewed one today) who get paid a fortune because they are targeting the right people with the right offers.

        My own (Australian) content provider is no longer accepting clients because she has too many and her team are flat out.

        If you still can't get the ratio right (build enough value) then be a middleman and get offshore talent under you. Build a team and grow a real business.
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      • Profile picture of the author scattermouse
        Originally Posted by Taylor French View Post

        No, there are people who claim to get paid $50 per article. Most of the people here on WF who claim to make $25 to $50 per article do not get consistent work at that price level. I say most, because there will always be exceptions.

        But you can see evidence of the deception in the fact that some of those people who claim to get paid so much per article end up needing donations for simple deposits for homes or practically begging their email lists for Christmas money by offering some deeply discounted prices on services. I've seen things like this time and time again.

        Just because people claim that's what they charge doesn't mean they actually get it on any kind of consistent basis.

        A good friend of mine has been a freelance writer for years, and she said her whole world is crashing down on her because no one will pay even a third of what they would a year ago. She's losing everything, and she is desperately looking for a job now.

        And this is an extremely reliable person who has always put her customers first, always completes work on time without fail, and does top notch work.

        Things aren't always what they seem.
        Hi Taylor,

        You seem to be telling me that some very highly respected WF members are blatant liars. If you don't want me to believe them, why should I believe you?

        When I was freelancing, my regular rate was $20 per article, and I never had any trouble getting work. That was without the outstanding reputation built up over years that some writers have. Why shouldn't they be able to charge more than me?

        If your friend is in that much trouble, I recommend you put her in touch with some of the writers that hang around here. They may be able to give her some advice that saves her business.
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        • Profile picture of the author Taylor French
          Originally Posted by scattermouse View Post

          Hi Taylor,

          You seem to be telling me that some very highly respected WF members are blatant liars. If you don't want me to believe them, why should I believe you?

          When I was freelancing, my regular rate was $20 per article, and I never had any trouble getting work. That was without the outstanding reputation built up over years that some writers have. Why shouldn't they be able to charge more than me?

          If your friend is in that much trouble, I recommend you put her in touch with some of the writers that hang around here. They may be able to give her some advice that saves her business.
          I don't really care if you believe me, or not. Just get on their lists and see the prices they're charging for the amount of work involved. The proof is in the list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    If you are writing articles on any and every subject then you'll
    command less than if you specialize in a particular area. I
    only write articles in areas that I'm comfortable writing in
    and do get $150 per article. But again, compared to copywriting
    or writing my own ebooks, that's a drop in the bucket.

    But, no doubt about it, the internet has leveled the playing field
    so that freelancing is a lot tougher (and easier at the same time)
    than a few years ago. Lou Dobbs may be able to explain why.

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  • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
    It all depends on your ability to market your services a certain way. Usually the markets you are dealing with want something different. Someone who wants to mass submit articles for article marketing may be trying to make a few affiliate sales. They may not be willing to spend so much, it also would not make economical sense for them to do so. Or someone who is building an adsense blog. But for someone hoping to use it as a complete marketing plan to build a list, and put their name behind their stuff, these people will pay more and be happy for it. You just have to understand the needs of the markets you cater to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zyley
    I think that the problem is that there are a lot of indians on the market providing link building services and their rates are VERY low. So, it's hard to compete. You can only rely on their weaknesses (irresponsibility, poor English and spammy technics) and replace them with your strengths. Try to explain your potential client the benefits of working with you and common problems when working with somebody from a foreign country who has extremely low rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azune
    If you're trying to sell your freelance services to one-person startups or micro biz, you need to *take away a lot of pain* before they'll pay you a decent amount. Money they pay you is money they don't spend on a brochure, or on that trade show they wanted to go to. The freelance computer techie who charges $100 an hour for onsite emergency calls can do so because he's removing pain -- and typically that's the only way small and micro biz owners are willing to pay a decent (living wage) amount, because that's when they can justify spending more than a few odd dollars. Find a way to assure them that you're removing a pain (even if it isn't one they realized they had).

    Selling to venture-funded startups, larger established biz, and so on isn't as much about removing pain as it is about making the employee who finds/hires/recommends you look good to their boss. Those folks have to trust that you can solve the problem that's listed on their to-do list...solving the pain isn't enough, they have to know that you won't flake out or "get a real job" and vanish on them. They see the word "freelance" and think "dangerous" so make sure you have a solid, stable, and defined business identity to reassure them. Take away their pain, but also take away their fear.
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