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Nicholas Ho

16 years ago

Well, it aint a site which is selling stuff.
It is just a web 2.0 directory.

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Wonderbaum

16 years ago

Well a web 2.0 directory will also be "selling" it self won't it? If people won't wait for it to load there isn't going to be much "directory"

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najmiyusoff

16 years ago

Wow, it really took a while to load.

And to answer your question, as a graphic/website designer myself, I honestly think one of the best graphic designers out there can be found here;

Pulp Minisites :: Professional Salesletter, Minisite and eCover Design Service (no affiliate link)

I would consider myself a pretty good website designer too.

I don't know, just check out my sig and you tell me.

All the best and take care.

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Najmi Yusoff

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Nicholas Ho

16 years ago

Well, I doubt if pulpsminisite do website designing.
They are just doing minisite aren't they?

Any site designer that do Web 2.0 type of design?

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zeurois 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Nicholas Ho

Well, I doubt if pulpsminisite do website designing.
They are just doing minisite aren't they?

Any site designer that do Web 2.0 type of design?

All designers that like to keep up with the trends are doing web2.0 now

2 things about that site:
#1. it loads very slow ...
#2. it seems there's a lot of programming web2.0 there rather than just design. Designers usually draw and throw. Programmers do the science-fiction part
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TheRichJerksNet

16 years ago

The so-called web 2.0 design revolution is over.. People are bored with those boring styles, the problem is they have no creativity.

Creativity has always been the backbone of a real designer and always will. The term web 2.0 is nothing more than a marketing term, some people seen that as a opportunity to come up with a new style of design.

After talking with hundreds of clients of mine 95% agree that web 2.0 style is boring, drab, lifeless, and brings no creation to the site. Pretty bright colors that look shiny, that is all web 2.0 is.

Just my 2 cents..

James

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Jamie Lewis 16 years ago

I have hired both Web graphics guru develops graphics for web sites worldwide - Design Guru Ryan
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I recommend Ryan, he's the man.
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- KarlWarren 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Nicholas Ho
  
  Well, I doubt if pulpsminisite do website designing.
  They are just doing minisite aren't they?
  
  Any site designer that do Web 2.0 type of design?
  
  Best thing to do would be to ask them and not make assumptions.
  
  However, I don't think it's the design you're really asking about... (i.e. the graphics) I think you're referring to the coding of the interface. There is a big difference between design and coding.
  
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JayXtreme

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

The so-called web 2.0 design revolution is over.. People are bored with those boring styles, the problem is they have no creativity.

Creativity has always been the backbone of a real designer and always will. The term web 2.0 is nothing more than a marketing term, some people seen that as a opportunity to come up with a new style of design.

After talking with hundreds of clients of mine 95% agree that web 2.0 style is boring, drab, lifeless, and brings no creation to the site. Pretty bright colors that look shiny, that is all web 2.0 is.

Just my 2 cents..

James

I have to agree on this one very strongly...

My surveys always bring back similar feedback..

Peace

Jay

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TheRichJerksNet 16 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

I have to agree on this one very strongly...

My surveys always bring back similar feedback..

Peace

Jay

Thanks Jay ..

When you take the creativity out of the design, how can you call it design ?

It's amazing how so many are quick to rush and follow the crowd. What some don't realize is that so-called web 2.0 design could be hurting their sales more than helping. Again when you have no creativity, no differences in your site, no uniqueness to your design.. Then you will have a loss of interest.

Out of talking with hundreds of people (consumers that buy IM products), I asked a simple question..

What do you think about these 3 sites ?

I provided 3 links to 3 sites each with the same product but designed different. Site 1 was so-called web 2.0, Site 2 was created with creativity, Site 3 was also so-called web 2.0.

The responses:

Site 1 most said "looks ok but it is bland"

Site 2 most said "structured very nice, great layout, very pleasing to look at"

Site 3 most said "oh, it's another marketers website"

The Sales:

Site 1 - conversion = 12%

Site 2 - conversion = 57%

Site 3 - conversion = 2%

Bottom line is, I don't know about you but I rather have the 57% conversion.

James
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MarkMcDonald

16 years ago

Hey Nicholas.

Personally I don't think you'll ever find THE BEST because everyone has different opinions. But I would post my project on elance.com and choose the best there.

As for direct response Ryan is the bomb and as honest as they get (Designgururyan.com)

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minisite911

16 years ago

DesignGuruRyan and PulpMinisites are still my favorites..
I learn a lot from their designs

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Pedersenmt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by minisite911

DesignGuruRyan and PulpMinisites are still my favorites..
I learn a lot from their designs

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DesignGuruRyan is VERY expensive. $147 just for an ebook cover????? Wow!!!
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tomw

16 years ago

The design of REAL Web 2.0 sites is based upon a utilitarian aesthetic. They are built for intrinsic functionality and so the "design" or rather the "graphic look" of the site, is immaterial. The design and architecture of these types of site is often outstanding.

There is no need to wow and dazzle or lead the eye to a single purpose, such as an opt in or a click for payment button, because the users interact with these sites for a completely different reason than sales or marketing and so on.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Sweat pants and evening wear.

Thomas

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KarlWarren 16 years ago

To add to what Thomas said...

GLOSSY does not equate to Web 2.0

Glossy designs are cliche, as are grunge designs now - despite the fact that everyone still asks for them. In terms of design, IM is WAY behind the forerunners of traditional online marketing.
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TheRichJerksNet

16 years ago

Originally Posted by tomw

The design of REAL Web 2.0 sites is based upon a utilitarian aesthetic. They are built for intrinsic functionality and so the "design" or rather the "graphic look" of the site, is immaterial. The design and architecture of these types of site is often outstanding.

There is no need to wow and dazzle or lead the eye to a single purpose, such as an opt in or a click for payment button, because the users interact with these sites for a completely different reason than sales or marketing and so on.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Sweat pants and evening wear.

Thomas

Thomas,
You do understand that the only 'new' technology underpinning Web 2.0 is the XMLHTTPRequest object, which is central to using ajax. Other then that, it is simply design techniques

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KarlWarren

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Thomas,
You do understand that the only 'new' technology underpinning Web 2.0 is the XMLHTTPRequest object, which is central to using ajax. Other then that, it is simply design techniques

James

It's not the technology, but the application of it which defines Web 2.0

The technology has been around forever, the desire for online rich applications and the ability to create them is a more recent trend.

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David Neale

16 years ago

I would agree Thomas. My company has now designed more than 1000 websites since 1995. Right from the beginning there have always been two schools of designers. Artists and Engineers, we use both. Neither is "better" or more genuine, each bring value to the end product.

An artist puts more value on the visual and the engineer on the functional, most designers have varying elements of both in their work,

Design is much more than visual. Great design must not only be visually appealing but also perform it's function flawlessly.

A beautifully chair for example that is uncomfortable after a few minutes is a poor design no matter how it looks.

A website that look terrific but does not achieve the owners objectives is also a poor design.

Design does not equal the visual only.

Design styles come and go and Web 2.0 has never been something our clients have ever shown much interest in. I like it myself and the clear and straightforward approach is something I appreciate on a website.

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These days our design style has been greatly influenced by Wordpress. Many Wordpress designers strike a nice balance between art and engineering and the majority of our new designs fall into this design style.

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We tend to simplify these designs and remove some of the clutter but we build around the general format and layout.

I have to say I completely disagree with most of what "TheRichJerksNet" has said, it simply not been my experience in this business.

Originally Posted by tomw

The design of REAL Web 2.0 sites is based upon a utilitarian aesthetic. They are built for intrinsic functionality and so the "design" or rather the "graphic look" of the site, is immaterial. The design and architecture of these types of site is often outstanding.

There is no need to wow and dazzle or lead the eye to a single purpose, such as an opt in or a click for payment button, because the users interact with these sites for a completely different reason than sales or marketing and so on.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Sweat pants and evening wear.

Thomas

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Stephen Saha 16 years ago

Its right a website designer has much more to offer than just the look. Usability of the site is very important. Factors like proper layout for best visibility, fast loading, good navigation, structured content all comes under the designers purview. Though the client plays a vital role in the scope of entire process, the deisgner must be in a position to guide him/her for the best result.

I have been designing site for years now. Only recently have i ventured into the minisite/ecover business. They are different ball games.

A few of my recent sites are

Matrix Hire [clients site, no affiliate]
Probetsuk rating services,horse,racing tips,dutching,win bets,racingtips,racetips [clients site, no affiliate]

Theres no denying the fact a well designed site always does better than its competition,
but the success of a site greatly depends on the quality of the product, content and service you are providing.

All the best!

Stephen
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dageniusmarketer

15 years ago

thats not expensive mate. Especially if the work justifies the price. On that note, dont hesitate to check out Digital Wonderland.

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InternetM39482

15 years ago

For website design, I'd recommend James, Anthony and Chris. All them are very good at what they do and their prices are reasonable too! (~ $300 per project)

For minisite design, I'd recommend Minisite Frog, Design Guru Ryan and if someone is on a tight budget, Plusminisites!

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