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Old 09-28-2008, 08:38 AM   #1
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I'm wondering how you feel when you find an offer that you really want, but it is closed because of limits or, the price was $xx but now its $xxx because you were not there at the right time. Does it turn you off to that marketer or that site or that product?

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Old 09-28-2008, 08:48 AM   #2
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Not at all - it's no different than missing a sale at __________ store because you weren't able to get there. It's also the same if they have a limited quanity at that price - what can you do?
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Default Re: Do limits and missed bargains make you mad?

It can be annoying when all the big launches are done at 3 am over this side of the pond. I wonder how many people in Asia are not buying because of the time and the launch being limited.

I know that a number of WSO would have a price rise every sale or ever hour and again they will launch early hours over here.

It is a fact of life, and one that we have to accept not being American.

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I'm wondering how you feel when you find an offer that you really want, but it is closed because of limits or, the price was but now its because you were not there at the right time. Does it turn you off to that marketer or that site or that product?
It most definitely does. Especially in the WSO section. I'm going to leave it at that because no matter what I say I'm going to get slammed,but I think those type should not be allowed as it does not give everyone the same opportunity .

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Not at all - it's no different than missing a sale at __________ store because you weren't able to get there. It's also the same if they have a limited quanity at that price - what can you do?
Actually Big Mike, it's a big difference than missing a sale at such and such a store. Usually those sales are prefaced with an ad on the telly or radio spots or full page pullouts in your local paper,so most people have the same "opportunity" as every one else. That's the difference in my mind.

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Old 09-28-2008, 09:17 AM   #6
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Sometimes limits are necessary. It's the fake limits that turn my stomach.

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Old 09-28-2008, 09:19 AM   #7
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Sometimes limits are necessary. It's the fake limits that turn my stomach.

Like the fake scripts on sales pages that say"the price is going up at midnight tonight"?

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Product creators do this to create excitement and a sense of urgency. It's a marketing tool, and apparently a very effective one, or they wouldn't keep doing it.

It's a legitimate marketing technique. Marketers don't want people sitting on the fence forever debating whether to buy something...so they try to come up with ways to make sure that if you are interested in the product, you buy NOW - or never.

The only time it bothers me is, as Gene and Kim mentioned, when people are lying and pretending that there is some kind of time limit or they only have x number of copies for sale at this price - but they're lying.

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I'm wondering how you feel when you find an offer that you really want, but it is closed because of limits or, the price was but now its because you were not there at the right time. Does it turn you off to that marketer or that site or that product?
If it's something I actually really wanted, I'm disappointed. Opportunity lost, and stuff like that...

The only time it turns me off to the marketer is when they continue to promote long after their quota is filled or the price has dramatically risen. If you want me to sign up for a waiting list, just tell me. If I want what you have, I'll do it.

As for limits, there is a difference between a phony limit and an arbitrary one.

Setting a limit of 100 because it's a nice, round number for creating scarcity is arbitrary. Saying you only have 100 copies of a digital product is a straight-up lie. Saying you are only selling 100 for a legitimate reason (like some type of personal access bonus) is totally fine with me.

Bottom line, the only time limits and deadlines will turn me off of a marketer is when they insult my intelligence. Once they've done that, I question the value of the product itself.

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Actually Big Mike, it's a big difference than missing a sale at such and such a store. Usually those sales are prefaced with an ad on the telly or radio spots or full page pullouts in your local paper,so most people have the same "opportunity" as every one else. That's the difference in my mind.
From what I've seen over the years, those big launches are all anyone talks about up to the main event. LOL.
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Does not make me mad at all.. depending upon the product there are some that should not be saturated in the market because if it is then the product value goes down.

Great Example: BlogSplash was done as a test for my first WSO - Brand New Product, created by me and a new idea that nobody else had. I listed it for $20 with MRR rights.

Now I pretty much gave people the right to do as they wish with the product but as some we all know think the lower a item is priced the more sales they make (this is not always the case). Anyways the product was sold and resold which ofcourse was the idea with MRR. To my surprise I have seen resellers pick up this product and actually have it listed on their site for $1.99 .. Which just dropped the value of the product to 0..

I would have expected to see $9.99 or even $7.99 but to drop it as low as $1.99 just hurt the value and I highly doubt that reseller has sold many because the fact is if it is only worth $1.99 to that reseller then others (consumers) are going to say the product is wrothless and not buy.

So again does it make me Mad, Well no because some products you would expect to be limited..

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"From what I've seen over the years, those big launches are all anyone talks about up to the main event."


And your probably right.
Because I find them very contrary to what I feel a wso should be (but it's not my forum) my mind mistook what the OP was talking about to mean the WSOs.
In the larger scheme of things you Sir, are correct.
My bad.

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Actually Big Mike, it's a big difference than missing a sale at such and such a store. Usually those sales are prefaced with an ad on the telly or radio spots or full page pullouts in your local paper,so most people have the same "opportunity" as every one else. That's the difference in my mind.
The difference I see is that when stores do this, it is usually a temporary price reduction. If you show up after the sale, you can still buy, just not at the cheaper price.

It can be frustrating online if a product is pulled off the market after a short period of time, but the seller has every right to do this.

Re: people in Asia, what about people who work 9-5 jobs who can't get in on a launch at noon since they are at work? No matter what time is used, there will always be people who find it inconvenient or impossible to buy at that time.

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If it's something I actually really wanted, I'm disappointed. Opportunity lost, and stuff like that...

The only time it turns me off to the marketer is when ...
I'm with John on this issue.

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The difference I see is that when stores do this, it is usually a temporary price reduction. If you show up after the sale, you can still buy, just not at the cheaper price.

It can be frustrating online if a product is pulled off the market after a short period of time, but the seller has every right to do this.

Re: people in Asia, what about people who work 9-5 jobs who can't get in on a launch at noon since they are at work? No matter what time is used, there will always be people who find it inconvenient or impossible to buy at that time.
But the good news is, it is extremely rare that a product is closed and you have absolutely no alternatives. Usually there are other people who quickly create a rival product if the original is no longer available.

Besides, we are all so busy that I no longer lose sleep over missing some great product - I have plenty other things and products to work on.

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