Shiny Magic Pill... What Would You Pay ?

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Not really any magic pills here .

Just needing some pricing advice from those that matter to me . Yes warriors opinion does mean something .

I have a new product that I am wanting to set a price for .

The main product deals with instant free traffic sources . It will be offered in a package .

package will contain...

1; 5 original articles and 5 spun articles ( 10 in all) optimized to related long tails.

2; The 5 spun articles will be converted to pdf format to submit to the proper directories .

3; A bait product will be provided that pre-sells the main product .

4; Also included ... 5 follow up emails that establish relations and pre-sell the main product .

5; The main product .

6; Main product links will be customized for the buyer .

7; Bait and main product will be customized with the new buyers name .

The price points I would like advice on would be ..

1: for 10 packs (plr /mrr)( will still offer exclusive original articles )

2; For 1 owner only ( private label)

Also would like to hear recommendation on how to handle the guarantee as for the ones offered to only 10 members .

Any way you look at it , if I offer 10 and one is supposedly returned . in reality 11 packs are on the net .

Plus ... if I offer review copies , wouldn't that also be another copy out there

Thanks in advance

Troy
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

    Not really any magic pills here .

    Just needing some pricing advice from those that matter to me . Yes warriors opinion does mean something .

    I have a new product that I am wanting to set a price for .

    The main product deals with instant free traffic sources . It will be offered in a package .

    package will contain...

    1; 5 original articles and 5 spun articles ( 10 in all) optimized to related long tails.

    2; The 5 spun articles will be converted to pdf format to submit to the proper directories .

    3; A bait product will be provided that pre-sells the main product .

    4; Also included ... 5 follow up emails that establish relations and pre-sell the main product .

    5; The main product .

    6; Main product links will be customized for the buyer .

    7; Bait and main product will be customized with the new buyers name .

    The price points I would like advice on would be ..

    1: for 10 packs (plr /mrr)( will still offer exclusive original articles )

    2; For 1 owner only ( private label)

    Also would like to hear recommendation on how to handle the guarantee as for the ones offered to only 10 members .

    Any way you look at it , if I offer 10 and one is supposedly returned . in reality 11 packs are on the net .

    Plus ... if I offer review copies , wouldn't that also be another copy out there

    Thanks in advance

    Troy
    Maybe I am miss understanding, aren't all of your parts out sourceable, for example, 5 articles and then them 5 re spin. Why not just look at all the out sourced prices and come up with one which beats all of them.
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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      Hi troy,

      If offering a limited number just keep it to the number don't worry about review copies. as for pricing the best way is to see what is selling in similar packages not just priced but converting and what is the % the are converting remember low price doesn't always bring lots of sales it is the perceived value aspect to consider as well. I would sell something like this for 47-67 with an upsell

      Just my 02 cents
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by WD Products View Post

        Hi troy,

        If offering a limited number just keep it to the number don't worry about review copies. as for pricing the best way is to see what is selling in similar packages not just priced but converting and what is the % the are converting remember low price doesn't always bring lots of sales it is the perceived value aspect to consider as well. I would sell something like this for 47-67 with an upsell

        Just my 02 cents
        -WD
        Thanks WD .

        I am asking because I have 5 list members for the plr type pack and one for the original one owner pack basically with credit card in hand asking how much .

        You need to take into consideration my average prices for the 5 follow up series alone would usually go for no less than $100 . I normally charge $25 per follow up.

        The warrior for hire section has tainted the true price most people pay for a content package .

        I will ramp this up and use warriors to provide the content in the near future .

        While I will probably always do the follow ups myself , I will retain some of the better writers on here to do the original articles and would not even insult them by offering any less than $10 per article .

        Some of the better writers would laugh at me for offering only $10 per article .

        Still you are getting a bait product .. plus a true product thrown in the mix .

        The upsale ( yes you are a smart one ) will be my offer to back link all the articles in their own wheel and present the offer to my 10 best producing affiliates to sell for them.

        I will also offer this entire package to affiliates just debating now on a closed or open affiliate program.
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        • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          Thanks WD .

          I am asking because I have 5 list members for the plr type pack and one for the original one owner pack basically with credit card in hand asking how much .

          You need to take into consideration my average prices for the 5 follow up series alone would usually go for no less than $100 . I normally charge $25 per follow up.

          The warrior for hire section has tainted the true price most people pay for a content package .

          I will ramp this up and use warriors to provide the content in the near future .

          While I will probably always do the follow ups myself , I will retain some of the better writers on here to do the original articles and would not even insult them by offering any less than $10 per article .

          Some of the better writers would laugh at me for offering only $10 per article .

          Still you are getting a bait product .. plus a true product thrown in the mix .

          The upsale ( yes you are a smart one ) will be my offer to back link all the articles in their own wheel and present the offer to my 10 best producing affiliates to sell for them.

          I will also offer this entire package to affiliates just debating now on a closed or open affiliate program.
          Oh I see gotcha, well then I would ramp it up to 147 if the list already knows your usually pricing this package contains a hell of a lot more then that I didn't realize you were doing a different sort of upsell that is very wise to offer that surely many will jump on because it is a common problem for many people to get the backlinks going.

          Good plan
          -WD
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      Maybe I am miss understanding, aren't all of your parts out sourceable, for example, 5 articles and then them 5 re spin. Why not just look at all the out sourced prices and come up with one which beats all of them.
      First of all, everything can be outsourced , no matter what you need .

      These are all original articles , the spinner I use is from AP, The 5 spun articles will stand on their own.

      I in no way will offer the entire package based on bottom dollar, non English speaking article spinners for hire pricing .

      Sure .. you could get someone to write 5 original articles , someone to spin those articles, make an original bait product to collect visitor info and pre-sell the main product , write 5 follow up emails ,make a main product .

      That is what I am asking . How much would all of this be worth in one package ? I have searches a lot and can't find anything as complete as this .
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

        First of all, everything can be outsourced , no matter what you need .

        These are all original articles , the spinner I use is from AP, The 5 spun articles will stand on their own.

        I in no way will offer the entire package based on bottom dollar, non English speaking article spinners for hire pricing .

        Sure .. you could get someone to write 5 original articles , someone to spin those articles, make an original bait product to collect visitor info and pre-sell the main product , write 5 follow up emails ,make a main product .

        That is what I am asking . How much would all of this be worth in one package ? I have searches a lot and can't find anything as complete as this .
        Ok 1 guy wont do it all for you maybe but 2 will. I would probally pay 4-5 dollars per article and probally 2 dollars per spun articles, nothing more. All I can see this being is, out source wrapped into one packaged and will probally cost a lot more. Thats why I said look at out sourcing prices, better yet, look at american out sourcing prices.
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        • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
          Originally Posted by butters View Post

          Ok 1 guy wont do it all for you maybe but 2 will. I would probally pay 4-5 dollars per article and probally 2 dollars per spun articles, nothing more. All I can see this being is, out source wrapped into one packaged and will probally cost a lot more. Thats why I said look at out sourcing prices, better yet, look at american out sourcing prices.
          Well I know one guy ( at least for the first couple of series) ME. lol

          I do appreciate the reply

          Thanks

          Troy
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    I would never pay a penny for a package like that unless I could see that the seller is located in a country with a very low pay rate and has difficulty getting PayPal or a merchant account.

    Why?

    If your work had a decent ROI, then why wouldn't you just use it on your own sites and not sell it?

    It makes sense to sell information. Often others using the information doesn't impact your bottom line at all.

    It doesn't make sense to sell labor if you are a pro at marketing. If you know what you are doing and your work had a decent ROI, then you would do it for yourself.

    The only exception is the geography challenges. I do buy packages like that from those sources because it makes sense. They simply don't have the opportunity to make use of the ROI of their labor directly. So I become the middle-woman.
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    • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      I would never pay a penny for a package like that unless I could see that the seller is located in a country with a very low pay rate and has difficulty getting PayPal or a merchant account.

      Why?

      If your work had a decent ROI, then why wouldn't you just use it on your own sites and not sell it?

      It makes sense to sell information. Often others using the information doesn't impact your bottom line at all.

      It doesn't make sense to sell labor if you are a pro at marketing. If you know what you are doing and your work had a decent ROI, then you would do it for yourself.

      The only exception is the geography challenges. I do buy packages like that from those sources because it makes sense. They simply don't have the opportunity to make use of the ROI of their labor directly. So I become the middle-woman.

      ???????Pardon,

      what does this have to do with a price range. :confused:
      ?????
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      So helping someone who can't do it is not profitable ?

      A product that gets them the traffic , the opt ins for their own list , and a product that I do have proven test results on , isn't worth more than a big red headline promise that leaves them nothing to fall back on.

      I am not looking to sell holes ... I want to sell them the shovel.

      The back end is limitless


      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      I would never pay a penny for a package like that unless I could see that the seller is located in a country with a very low pay rate and has difficulty getting PayPal or a merchant account.

      Why?

      If your work had a decent ROI, then why wouldn't you just use it on your own sites and not sell it?

      It makes sense to sell information. Often others using the information doesn't impact your bottom line at all.

      It doesn't make sense to sell labor if you are a pro at marketing. If you know what you are doing and your work had a decent ROI, then you would do it for yourself.

      The only exception is the geography challenges. I do buy packages like that from those sources because it makes sense. They simply don't have the opportunity to make use of the ROI of their labor directly. So I become the middle-woman.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post


      If your work had a decent ROI, then why wouldn't you just use it on your own sites and not sell it?

      It makes sense to sell information. Often others using the information doesn't impact your bottom line at all.

      It doesn't make sense to sell labor if you are a pro at marketing. If you know what you are doing and your work had a decent ROI, then you would do it for yourself.
      I am on Steven Wagenheim's list . He offers Certain niche specific articles with the niches and keywords already researched .

      This is labor intensive . Would you say that he is not a "pro" marketer ?

      Hey love him or hate him.... he is not playing this game just because he likes to play .

      I set this up modeled after some of Stephen's methods and a hot report idea from Allen Says . Both of them I consider pro marketers . Pro marketers who think far enough outside of the affiliate marketer mindset to stimulate my thought process.

      Now if I could just learn to string words together like Paul Myers .... hmmmm
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Troy,
    I sold similar packages like this on WSO...

    I would charge the following:

    Limited to 10 sales - Cost: $27.97 each

    PLR Purchase - Cost: $179.97

    I would not offer review copies at all, just list on the WSO examples of the articles.

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      Troy,
      I sold similar packages like this on WSO...

      I would charge the following:

      Limited to 10 sales - Cost: $27.97 each

      PLR Purchase - Cost: $179.97

      I would not offer review copies at all, just list on the WSO examples of the articles.

      James
      Thank you James . This is what I was looking for .

      Oh yeah ... bet you could never guess who I will ask to do my back linking on this .
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

        Thank you James . This is what I was looking for .

        Oh yeah ... bet you could never guess who I will ask to do my back linking on this .
        Oh I know ...lol

        You could up that package some by offering to list the 5 articles on AP directory which will soon have Auto Syndication to 100+ networked sites that I control which also means 100+ instant backlinks to that article.

        In this case I would offer

        Limited to 5 sales - Cost: $27.97

        Limited to 5 sales - Cost: $47.97 each (Would include the auto syndication of 1 article each)

        PLR Purchase - Cost: $179.97

        PLR Purchase - Cost: $219.97 (Would include the auto syndication of all 5 articles)

        James
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    Great advice James nice one.
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    LOL

    and what a big shovel it is troy.
    hahaha
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