1 minute after sign up, my subscriber sent me an ad!

Bjarne Eldhuset · 12-26-2009, 06:39 PM

I just had a weird experience with one of my lists.

Someone signed up to my list twice, did not confirm their e-mail, and 1 minute later I receive an e-mail from one of those unconfirmed e-mail addresses.

In the e-mail, I'm told to go to a link that has a salespage where I can buy 170 lousy adsense sites for 17 bucks.

I realise this is a kind of spam, but I can't wrap my head around why a spammer would use this kind of method, as it seems there are other ways they can spam more easily.

Maybe it's because they could argue it is legal to send e-mails to the owner of a list they tried to sign up to?

Troy_Phillips · 12-26-2009, 06:43 PM

And one minute after that ... I deleted them from my list .

Bjarne Eldhuset · 12-26-2009, 06:53 PM

Yeah, I'll follow your example. Cannon fodder it is.

Glassjaw009 · 12-26-2009, 07:08 PM

haha. that's pretty bizarre. creative...i guess...but probably 90% ineffective.

mr2monster · 12-26-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne Eldhuset

I just had a weird experience with one of my lists.

Someone signed up to my list twice, did not confirm their e-mail, and 1 minute later I receive an e-mail from one of those unconfirmed e-mail addresses.

In the e-mail, I'm told to go to a link that has a salespage where I can buy 170 lousy adsense sites for 17 bucks.

I realise this is a kind of spam, but I can't wrap my head around why a spammer would use this kind of method, as it seems there are other ways they can spam more easily.

Maybe it's because they could argue it is legal to send e-mails to the owner of a list they tried to sign up to?

My bet is that they signed up using a spoof email account with an autoresponse that they have set up with that message.

Chances are that they post things for sale on CL for really cheap and when people email them to see if it's available they get an autoresponse with that...

Troy_Phillips · 12-26-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Glassjaw009

haha. that's pretty bizarre. creative...i guess...but probably 90% ineffective.

Nothing creative about signing up to a list with an autoresponded message .

Just a pitiful shot in the dark from a wanna be marketer

Steven Fullman · 12-26-2009, 07:31 PM

What's the problem?

You asked him to give you his email address you so could send him "stuff"...

...he tries you at your own game, beats you to the punch...and you call a WTF?

Are you suggesting he had no right to send YOU an offer in return for sending you his email address?

I was always led to believe that email was a "two-way" communication tool.

This reply is not aimed at you, personally, Bjarne!

Steve

Robert Puddy · 12-26-2009, 07:40 PM

the problem is one person gave permission to send him email ... the other one didnt give permission

Bjarne Eldhuset · 12-26-2009, 07:41 PM

I don't see it as a problem, I just wondered what the person doing it was thinking.

On a second note, I'll never drive to the car dealer again. He might take my car out for a spin while I'm test driving one of his

Steven Fullman · 12-26-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Puddy

the problem is one person gave permission to send him email ... the other one didnt give permission

Now, Robert...I love you, mate. But come on.

Step out of the marketing world for a minute.

Person A sends Person B an email.

Are you saying Person B has no right to reply?

Even in a commercial sense?

I would say Person A has opened up a dialog with Person B, and all bets are off.

Steve

Steven Fullman · 12-26-2009, 07:55 PM

(yes, I see the flaw(s) in my argument)

Robert Puddy · 12-26-2009, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Even in a commercial sense.

Steve

There is the key phrase

UCE

Unsolicited commercial email

person A and B private email altogether different, if siad subscriber had sent a personal message..like im sorry ideleted the confirmation email by mistake could you please resend, not spam.

Autoresponder sending UCE not kewl (or effective) it actually has a name its called reverse marketing, and some people are taught to do just that... sign up for lists especially so they can be immeadiatly spammed with autorespder UCE

silverbax · 12-26-2009, 07:59 PM

It's almost absolutely an autoresponder that was set up on an email account.

And although I agree it's not a great way to make sales, and seems like a huge waste of time, it's probably also a good way to harvest email addresses and hit them up.

If I was really devious, I could see building a harvester app that combs looking for opt in forms.

Steven Fullman · 12-26-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Puddy

There is the key phrase

UCE

Unsolicited commercial email

person A and B private email altogether different, if siad subscriber had sent a personal message..like im sorry ideleted the confirmation email by mistake

So, where in...say...a squeeze page does it say, "if I email you, we're not buddies, and you agree that this is a one way conversation, OK?"

(Devil's advocate)

Steve

whateverpedia · 12-26-2009, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glassjaw009

haha. that's pretty bizarre. creative...i guess...but probably 90% ineffective.

Probably 100% ineffective.

Shoaib · 12-27-2009, 12:03 AM

Could it be a bot that automatically signs up for opt-in lists with an autoresponder address?

12-26-2009, 06:39 PM	#1
Bjarne Eldhuset Marketerforsale.com War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 619 Thanks: 152 Thanked 194 Times in 77 Posts	1 minute after sign up, my subscriber sent me an ad! I just had a weird experience with one of my lists. Someone signed up to my list twice, did not confirm their e-mail, and 1 minute later I receive an e-mail from one of those unconfirmed e-mail addresses. In the e-mail, I'm told to go to a link that has a salespage where I can buy 170 lousy adsense sites for 17 bucks. I realise this is a kind of spam, but I can't wrap my head around why a spammer would use this kind of method, as it seems there are other ways they can spam more easily. Maybe it's because they could argue it is legal to send e-mails to the owner of a list they tried to sign up to?
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Bjarne Eldhuset Marketerforsale.com War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 619 Thanks: 152 Thanked 194 Times in 77 Posts	Re: 1 minute after sign up, my subscriber sent me an ad! I don't see it as a problem, I just wondered what the person doing it was thinking. On a second note, I'll never drive to the car dealer again. He might take my car out for a spin while I'm test driving one of his
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12-26-2009, 07:55 PM	#11
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12-26-2009, 07:59 PM	#13
silverbax Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 69 Thanks: 9 Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1 minute after sign up, my subscriber sent me an ad! It's almost absolutely an autoresponder that was set up on an email account. And although I agree it's not a great way to make sales, and seems like a huge waste of time, it's probably also a good way to harvest email addresses and hit them up. If I was really devious, I could see building a harvester app that combs looking for opt in forms.

12-27-2009, 12:03 AM	#16
Shoaib HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 192 Thanks: 58 Thanked 33 Times in 28 Posts Contact Info	Re: 1 minute after sign up, my subscriber sent me an ad! Could it be a bot that automatically signs up for opt-in lists with an autoresponder address?