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Income claims from IM programs.

by warrice7
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How believable are the snapshots of clickbank accounts that IMers provide for their products?
#claims #income #programs
  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
    How real is Puff The Magic Dragon? I don't trust screen shots, there's been more than a few right on this forum that have been caught faking them.

    Hell, there was a video posted on here somewhere of someone showing how to put some kind of script in to mess with the clickbank numbers, so even video can be questionable. But, i'd trust a video a lot more than a screen shot.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuiteJ
    It's ridiculously easy to fake them, even without Photoshop (before you take the screenshot), but that doesn't mean all screenshots of incomes are fake.

    IMO, a screenshot of one individual's income shouldn't hold any weight in your decision to buy a product though anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author fitz10
    Take all income screenshots with a grain of salt.
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  • Profile picture of the author mostphere
    Hi,

    I never trust their scshoot. It very easy, I mean, so easy to make it fake. I am not talking about using photoshop, that's hard, it only need a small plugin of firefox addons, and it can be done very easy.

    So, don't trust those earnings, trust the person.
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  • Profile picture of the author thescribe
    I suggest using a bit of common sense when reviewing income claims from IM programs. Though some of them may actually be true, it is just too easy to produce fake ones.

    Do yourself a favor and research the Internet for real reviews from real people who have actually used the product. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. Also, realize that the effort that you put into working a program is also a HUGE factor in your success.
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    • Profile picture of the author JR Rich
      "How to Earn $8,945.72 in the Next 24 Hours -- Guaranteed!"

      And if you believe that, I have some quality beachfront property here in Idaho I think you might be interested in!

      Forget the screenshots - they're either fake or portray earnings that have absolutely nothing to do with the offer at hand. C'mon guys, hype is the name of this game after all.

      Salesletters are designed to be enticing and nearly impossible to ignore. But, in all the years that I've jumped on some product due to a high-powered sales letter, I have yet to see anything that will make you instantly rich.

      Life doesn't work that way, my friends. Sure, you can make money via Internet marketing, but it's going to take time, persistence and -Gasp! - work to make it happen.

      Get rich quick never works, not now, not ever.

      Grab an idea that appeals to you, put your head down and put in the work required to make it happen.

      Never give up, never surrender (Apologies to Cmdr Peter Quincy Taggart)

      Regards,
      --JR Rich
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      • Profile picture of the author copywriter
        Well...

        One VERY popular ebook that has a gazillion views on this forum advised making up stories about your experience with a product in order to make a sale.

        People followed like lemmings.

        What amazed me was the lack of people saying: "Hey wait a minute... that is lying!"

        I guess that people justify anything when there is money at stake.

        The other thing to consider is...

        The FULL Picture.

        I once sold $70,000 in 1 hour at a seminar in Canada.

        People look at stuff like that and think: Wow! Amazing!

        But - they fail to take off airfares, hotels, costs to run your business whilst you are away,
        the 50% you pay to the house, product fulfillment costs and postage.

        And don't forget... people who say they made $30,000 in 7 days often forget to mention they spent $27,000 on Adwords to do so.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
          Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

          And don't forget... people who say they made $30,000 in 7 days often forget to mention they spent $27,000 on Adwords to do so.
          Right. And what about affiliate commissions and refunds?

          It's a shame this kind of stuff takes place...
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        • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
          Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

          Well...

          One VERY popular ebook that has a gazillion views on this forum advised making up stories about your experience with a product in order to make a sale.

          People followed like lemmings.

          What amazed me was the lack of people saying: "Hey wait a minute... that is lying!"

          I guess that people justify anything when there is money at stake.

          The other thing to consider is...

          The FULL Picture.

          I once sold $70,000 in 1 hour at a seminar in Canada.

          People look at stuff like that and think: Wow! Amazing!

          But - they fail to take off airfares, hotels, costs to run your business whilst you are away,
          the 50% you pay to the house, product fulfillment costs and postage.

          And don't forget... people who say they made $30,000 in 7 days often forget to mention they spent $27,000 on Adwords to do so.
          That's just scratching the surface.

          I'm not going to name names, but I know of 'big' IMers (some people call them Gurus) who pay people to buy their stuff at seminars (they give people money to run up and pay with, so they're not real sales but designed to make others think it must be a good deal) and then also quote all those sales figures in their "I made $xxxx in x hours" talk.

          The short story is - Don't believe anything you get told.

          Don't buy anything just because the sales letter was good. If you're trying to make money - get yourself a solid plan together and work it - everything else is a distraction, no matter how great it sounds.

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        • Profile picture of the author J Bold
          Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

          Well...




          And don't forget... people who say they made $30,000 in 7 days often forget to mention they spent $27,000 on Adwords to do so.


          That's what people need to remember. That isn't "making" $30,000. That's "making" $3000. You can only count profit when you talk about "making" money. When you get $10,000 but spent $20,000 in ads to get that, that's not making $10,000, that's losing $10,000!

          pet peeve of mine. Most people get it, but some don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    I don't know what percentage of income screenshots are genuine, but I know they are possible because I do fairly big figures myself in very short periods of time.

    I've made $80,000 ($77,000 was profit) in the last 6 or 7 weeks for example, no big deal and I've done it many times before.

    However, bear in mind the big dogs using the CPA Networks make millions every month, so the Clickbank, PayPal screenshots from some marketers making a few thousand dollars here and there is nothing special in any case in the bigger picture.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    I don't really rely on them too much, too easy to fake.

    The product generally speaks for itself in the end.
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