TurboPLR Bites the Dust.

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I just received an email from John Delavera. TurboPLR membership has come to an end.

Disappointing but probably the best thing for John to do as the PLR over time started to be delivered later and later each month. I am sure it was a lot of work and many head aches keeping the membership going.

If you are a member, look for the email, and make sure you cancel your membership before the next payment comes due.

Gary Killops
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    Sounds like he was creating his own PLR products. What a rarity.

    I've been looking for a rock solid PLR provider that isn't "reposting" PLR from other memberships. Any suggestions?
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary Killops
      There was a PLR membership offer recently in the Warrior Special Offer's that grabbed my attention. I need to go back and find it now as I was considering joining. TurboPLR was all IM related which was nice.

      Yes, TurboPLR was not a bunch of "other people's stuff". All original.

      Gary
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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        What kind of PLR site are you looking for, BlueSquares? I've recently opened a one-off PLR site but am developing some PLR membership sites. I'm just waffling on what type of content to provide. All of our PLR will be created in-house (from my unique ghostwriting service) but we've been debating on how to set things up.

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        • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
          I'm looking for a high-level PLR site with an extremely limited member count. I'm looking for original, extremely well-written PLR at the $97-$197/mth level that only requires a new name and graphics.

          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          What kind of PLR site are you looking for, BlueSquares? I've recently opened a one-off PLR site but am developing some PLR membership sites. I'm just waffling on what type of content to provide. All of our PLR will be created in-house (from my unique ghostwriting service) but we've been debating on how to set things up.

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          • Profile picture of the author summer07
            Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

            I'm looking for a high-level PLR site with an extremely limited member count. I'm looking for original, extremely well-written PLR at the $97-$197/mth level that only requires a new name and graphics.
            I have to admit that I'm curious...in that price range, it seems like you could get one or two custom sites or ebooks. So how much and much kinds of PLR content do you want to get for that monthly price?
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            • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
              Originally Posted by summer07 View Post

              I have to admit that I'm curious...in that price range, it seems like you could get one or two custom sites or ebooks. So how much and much kinds of PLR content do you want to get for that monthly price?
              Excellent question. I would expect to receive at least 2 solid products.

              I don't personally know anyone that can deliver excellent quality at that price range.
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              • Profile picture of the author Taylor French
                Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

                Excellent question. I would expect to receive at least 2 solid products.

                I don't personally know anyone that can deliver excellent quality at that price range.
                I don't either.

                I can't imagine anyone writing one quality product for $97 to $197. If there is someone out there who will, I want their contact info immediately.
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                • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
                  Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

                  Excellent question. I would expect to receive at least 2 solid products.

                  I don't personally know anyone that can deliver excellent quality at that price range.
                  Originally Posted by Taylor French View Post

                  I don't either.

                  I can't imagine anyone writing one quality product for $97 to $197. If there is someone out there who will, I want their contact info immediately.
                  This is something I am looking at creating actually.

                  I am looking at making a PLR membership site with three levels of membership.

                  Priced at $27, $47, $97/$197 the $97 or $197 would be priced in relation to how many people I offer it to. I want to know the target markets opinion on whether or not they would be willing to pay $100 extra to have the content limited extremely to lets say 30 people or $97 at 50 people.

                  These figures are completely top of the head figures and would be subject to some harsh marketing first but you get the idea.

                  The top level membership would include 1-3 product creations which would hopefully end up looking like this;
                  The Migraine Relief | 100% Natural Migraine Treatment and Headache Remedy

                  This type of design quality, with an EXPERT sales page created by a professional from here.

                  The product would be approximately 30-60 pages with 3-4 bonus products and hopefully an option of 2-3 different graphics for the site.

                  How does this sound?
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      • Profile picture of the author vicone
        One of the best sources of quality PLR products I've found to be Niche-Content-Packages.com. I've bought many of their packages over the years, both as a subscriber and by purchasing individual packages.

        The content is always of a very high standard and professionally designed graphics (cover and headers) are also included.

        These are ideal for short reports and are very suitable for optin pages and lead-building websites.

        They tend to be more expensive than most PLR sources. For a non-subscriber, the cost is around $4 per article. This means a pack of 10 articles would be about $40 (this includes ecovers and headers). A package usually contains 10-15 articles.

        Niches are carefully selected and within the broader themes of food, travel, health, personal development, home improvement, gardening, pets, and more.

        More details can be obtained here (not an affiliate link):

        Quality PLR Articles Only a Click Away!

        Ivan
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        • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
          In growing a business you reach a point where you have a lot
          of oars in the water... and some of them require a lot of effort
          and don't pull their own wait. The deeper/longer you're invested
          in the underperfomer the more tempting it is, emotionally, to
          stick with the underdog and continue to nurture it.

          However, rationally, nurturing the underdog usually just
          sucks resources away from proven performers and from new
          project development. Knowing when to pull the plug is tough.
          Felix Dennis wrote in "How To Get Rich" how he personally
          ignored rational judgement and spent 2 million dollars keeping
          a non-performing magazine afloat after it started to become
          clear it wasn't going to "take off".
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          • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
            The content is always of a very high standard and professionally designed graphics (cover and headers) are also included.
            That is something that I just don't get. Everyone says to change the graphics first thing to make it unique (plus the content, etc) so why do so many sites offer the graphics and then charge more for it?

            I should think it would be better to not get any graphics to start with?

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            • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
              Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

              Everyone says to change the graphics first thing to make it unique
              Thing is, it's only the ones who can market the product effectively who are going to have their headers and ecovers exposed to viewers - so, it might not make financial sense to change them.

              Most people are looking for a one stop solution:
              Add buy button >> upload >> drive traffic

              The least work and extra expense possible, the better.

              Kindest regards,
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              • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
                Hi there,

                I'm currently creating a limited membership PLR site, like Blue Squares' description. All of the content will be written by me and is VERY high quality. I am looking for specific niches to write content on, so if anyone is interested, or has any ideas, please do send me a PM.

                Cheers,
                Sissy
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              • Profile picture of the author vicone
                That is something that I just don't get. Everyone says to change the graphics first thing to make it unique (plus the content, etc) so why do so many sites offer the graphics and then charge more for it?

                I should think it would be better to not get any graphics to start with?
                For the supplier I mentioned above, he doesn't provide just the one ecover and header. The packages I've obtained have 3-5 versions of the ecovers and headers.

                For a simple website which is used to generate leads, this is a quick and easy way to set it up. The quality of graphics is high and it would be hard for someone inexperienced to produce anything of similar quality without paying to have it done.

                You still have to supply your own, unique web page.

                However, for a more substantial work, such as an ebook, I agree that changes would be required. For instance, the supplied graphics could be altered using the image blanks which are supplied.

                Mostly the packages are too small to be considered for anything more than short reports. (Each article is around 500 words.) However, in some cases it would be possible to combine a number of reports into a unique, larger ebook. For instance, a book on on top holiday destinations could be assembled by combining material for Rome, Paris, London, Madrid, etc.

                Ivan
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                • Profile picture of the author Gary Killops
                  There are a lot of PLR membership sites out there.

                  I am noticing that a few of them are having troubles keeping up with the monthly promise to deliver what they said they were going to.

                  I think if anyone is thinking of starting a membership site such as TurboPLR have 3 to 6 months of PLR projects in the can before you open your door. Sure in 6 months things can change and you will need to stay on top of it but I believe that this would be much better than scrambling each month trying to make deadlines. The product will suffer this way.

                  Lesson here is that we have read how easy it is to set up a membership site and the cash rolls in by way of monthly membership dues. That is the easy part .... harder to keep customers and keep new good product rolling in.

                  Gary
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                  • Profile picture of the author vicone
                    I am looking for specific niches to write content on, so if anyone is interested, or has any ideas, please do send me a PM.
                    It would be good to start with Keyword Research and identify niches that offer fresh opportunities for marketers and are not heavily traveled by other writers. For instance, unless you have something truly original to contribute, there is little call for more articles on Acne or Weight Loss.

                    Also, consider the purpose of your package. Is it meant to be compiled into a PDF or a series of email messages? If so, you might want to deal with the major issues - the high demand keywords - regardless of the competition for those words.

                    However, if the articles are intended to be used primarily as content for a blog or web site, to be able to attract traffic the topics would need to take into account the level of competition for those keywords so that the purchasers have some hope of making effective use of the articles. In this case, you would choose topics which are not the highest ranking yet still have strong demand.

                    Using any of the major keyword tools, it's easy enough to find niches and micro niches which have potential for good PLR.

                    If you're thinking of producing a more substantial work, have a look at what is already available on Clickbank and find a niche which has a strong level of demand and is not well catered for there. Also check to see whether Clickbank has an expensive product which is market leader for a niche and consider whether you can produce something which is equally as good, or better, you could offer at a lower price.

                    Ivan
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                    • Profile picture of the author vicone
                      Niche Profit Classroom has PLR ebooks each month.
                      I'm a great admirer of the NPC system; however, consider that they have thousands of members, so every time they release their monthly PLR ebooks thousands of competitors are also getting that material.

                      Although you would be expected to make changes to the material to make it uniquely yours, they are also competing against you for the same keywords with a similar product. Not an impossible situation but there are easier roads to travel.

                      You can make life easier for yourself by doing original keyword research and search for a niche which has strong demand and relatively weak competition.

                      You could still use NPC tactics to assist with this, such as checking what is available for books and magazines on Amazon. If there is a demand for the niche with printed products, this suggests a demand could also exist for an online product. Then do your keyword research to explore it further.

                      Ivan
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                    • Profile picture of the author raynman
                      Originally Posted by vicone View Post

                      It would be good to start with Keyword Research and identify niches that offer fresh opportunities for marketers and are not heavily traveled by other writers. For instance, unless you have something truly original to contribute, there is little call for more articles on Acne or Weight Loss.
                      I wish I had seen this before I spent a few days last week on my first batch of PLR articles. (check out my WSO to find out what I did. lol)

                      still frustrating but better late than never to find out this.
                      Originally Posted by vicone View Post

                      Also, consider the purpose of your package. Is it meant to be compiled into a PDF or a series of email messages? If so, you might want to deal with the major issues - the high demand keywords - regardless of the competition for those words.
                      When I did keyword research for my articles I tried to avoid ones that had a lot of competition (hard to do in the area I wrote about). Still, I found a few that had a decent demand. Are you saying that I shouldn't have eliminated high competition keywords? That would have made the writing a lot easier.
                      Originally Posted by vicone View Post

                      However, if the articles are intended to be used primarily as content for a blog or web site, to be able to attract traffic the topics would need to take into account the level of competition for those keywords so that the purchasers have some hope of making effective use of the articles. In this case, you would choose topics which are not the highest ranking yet still have strong demand.
                      I guess that changes things since most of the articles I wrote were intended to be used for blogs so I probably did the right thing, even if it was for too saturated a market.
                      Originally Posted by vicone View Post

                      Using any of the major keyword tools, it's easy enough to find niches and micro niches which have potential for good PLR.

                      If you're thinking of producing a more substantial work, have a look at what is already available on Clickbank and find a niche which has a strong level of demand and is not well catered for there. Also check to see whether Clickbank has an expensive product which is market leader for a niche and consider whether you can produce something which is equally as good, or better, you could offer at a lower price.

                      Ivan
                      I'm still trying to find out how using keyword tools can show me niches. I'm finding it hard to find out what needs there are out there that aren't being addressed.

                      I suppose I'll figure it out eventually. I probably do know and it just isn't clicking yet.
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                      • Profile picture of the author vicone
                        I'm still trying to find out how using keyword tools can show me niches. I'm finding it hard to find out what needs there are out there that aren't being addressed.
                        Keyword tools are helpful in testing ideas. When you come across a possible niche, they enable you to gather some statistics which help you to assess the niche - or a microniche within it - and decide whether you should take it further.

                        For instance, one approach is to build 10 niches a month and promote those niches for traffic. At the end of the month, see which three niches were able to draw the most traffic and focus more attention on those. At that point, prepare your own product, such as an ebook for those sites and expand the promotion.

                        A key part of this site development is building your own list so that you are basically building an automated system. Your promotions generate traffic to your web pages (or blog posts) where you capture leads and build a list. Marketing is then carried out to those on your list, where you basically have a 'captive' audience if you treat them well and provide value.

                        Knowing the end result helps to shape your purpose when choosing the initial keywords. I prefer to select keywords which have a fairly strong demand (eg, 1000+ searches a month, usually higher) and relatively low competition.

                        However, I'm less concerned with how many competing pages there are than with how strong the competition is on the first page of the SE results pages. The keyword tools can be a big help in determining this. For instance, MicroNicheFinder will give an estimate of how many backlinks are required to get onto the front page of Google results for a given keyword.

                        That helps me to choose those keywords I consider to be those most promising in producing traffic - if supported with backlinks, etc.

                        However, if I'm preparing a free report to be used to build a list, I choose a different set of keywords as the competition isn't so important. For the report, I'm more interested in those keyword phrases which attract most interest from those searching for information. The keyword tool provides these details at the same time as it indicates those keywords to be used for traffic generation.

                        With a good keyword tool on hand, you can quickly do a little research whenever you get an idea you'd like to test. I use MNF virtually every day. Doing this, and keeping a paper copy of the results, I have far more niches to develop than I can possibly handle. Simply browsing my notes reminds me of dozens of niches (rather, micro niches) awaiting my attention.

                        Market Samurai and Keyword Elite are also highly regarded for this sort of research.

                        Ivan
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    There are still places where you can buy PLR which is high quality and not part of a membership site. You will find the rights have been limited so you can't sell the PLR rights to your members.

    Many people buy PLR outside memberships sites because they don't want to be paying for reports, ebooks and articles which they have no use for. Normally there will be some niches they are not interested in.

    Being able to buy for your specific niche is better.

    As far as keeping a licence for yourself, it is something you should always do, and then rewrite the work to sell as well.

    Bluesquares you should look at some of the sites which don't tie you into a membership site to see there are some good quality products around.

    Taylor French I don't think Bluesquare was meaning unique for that price, but there are many PLR content providers who can create great material for that monthly price.

    Why, because they are earning from each sale, not just selling it once.

    PLR can make you money, but only if you create good material and price it correctly and have good rights as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I've seen this happen with a couple of PLR membership sites this past year and these were sites offering excellent quality products.

    Creating your own exclusive high quality PLR is time consuming and costly so you really have to have a lot of people joining to make it worthwhile and because it is a membership site, I guess it kind of ties you down to only selling it to the members so when you don't have a lot of members there is no way to recoup your costs.

    I personally don't like PLR memberships that much myself because, like Bev said above, you usually end up not being able to use some of it.

    I think when it comes to PLR it is better to be able to buy it on the topics you need when you need it and not have to take what someone doles out every month.

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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      I think when it comes to PLR it is better to be able to buy it on the topics you need when you need it and not have to take what someone doles out every month.
      I also follow this approach. When i'm planning to build a website in a new niche I check what PLR material is presently available in that area and buy it for that specific need.

      In the past I've joined membership sites and have a comprehensive collection of material that I'll never live to use. As a result I canceled all those memberships - even the better ones - and now buy as the need arises. Quality PLR can be very helpful and save a lot of time. I prefer to pay more for individual purchases than be committed to a lower regular payment for material I won't use.

      I also consider HOW the material can be used. Often the highest ranking keywords have been selected, so I prefer to use these for reports and possibly to include with additional material for ebooks.

      One thing that would interest me - although I never see it - would be an approach that indicates to the buyer how to adapt the material for long tail keywords.

      For instance, for a pack of 10 articles, as PLR has to be re-written anyway, include a supplementary list of long tail keywords that could be targeted for website content. I don't mean a list of 1,000 useless keywords that PLR providers sometimes include, but a list of 10-20 keywords that offer a genuine chance for traffic building and possibly indicate which articles could be adapted to suit which keywords.

      This could influence the structure of the original articles as the author would consider how easily they could be modified from their original purpose and re-targeted for use with other keywords.

      This might sound like additional work but no more so than offering 20 articles when 10 would serve that could be adapted.

      An alternative that could also be considered would be providing with the original 10 articles, 10 alternative opening paragraphs and 10 alternative closing paragraphs. These would be topical but fairly generic. Buyers could replace opening and closing paragraphs and insert relevant keywords. This would make it much easier to render an individual article unique, or relatively so.

      What would be offered would be a pack containing the original 10 articles + a page containing 10 additional opening paragraphs and another page with 10 additional closing paragraphs. Effectively, 12 articles for the price of 10 but with more flexibility.

      Of course, if you were marketing to those who were happy with "mix 'n match" content you could take this further, although it would mean a likely loss of quality. For instance, the first article would comprise ONLY first paragraphs, say 10 first paragraphs. The second article would consist of 10 second paragraphs, and so on. The 10th article would consist of 10 closing paragraphs.

      i'm not sure what you would call this as it isn't traditional PLR. For convenience, let's refer to it as SPLR, or Substitute PLR.

      Although SPLR wouldn't be of the quality that many authors prefer to produce, there would certainly be a market for those who are looking for easy to use content rather than repeat visitors, as with web pages that are strong on lead capture and the website (or page) is more of a feeder site than a main site.

      Making the product easier for the buyer to use offers a competitive advantage and increases the likelihood of sales.

      Ivan
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    What would be offered would be a pack containing the original 10 articles + a page containing 10 additional opening paragraphs and another page with 10 additional closing paragraphs. Effectively, 12 articles for the price of 10 but with more flexibility.
    That's an interesting thought. It would be really cool if you could somehow mix and match them. Is that what you meant? The 10 opening paragraphs and 10 closing could go with any of the articles.

    Or how cool would it be to have a bunch of paragraphs that you could piece together in any combination / order and you would get an article that would make sense.

    I may have to do something like this .........

    Lee
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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      It would probably be easier to only replace the same paragraphs in the order they were written rather than be able to replace all paragraphs in any order. Any order would be possible but more complex and more difficult to keep track of. That would probably see the emergence of software to perform the article generation.

      For a 10 paragraph article, with 10 versions and replacing only the same paragraph, you would be able to produce:

      10 articles 100% unique
      10 articles 90% unique
      10 articles 80% unique
      10 articles 70% unique
      10 articles 60% unique
      10 articles 50% unique
      10 articles 40% unique
      10 articles 30% unique
      10 articles 20% unique
      10 articles 10% unique

      Total: 100 articles from the original 10. Of course, there would be many times more possibilities if you could substitute any paragraph for any other. From the list above, it would be possible to specify, say, a 30% uniqueness level and be able to satisfy that with 80 articles. For 50% uniqueness, 60 articles could be produced. For 70% uniqueness, there are 40 articles.

      However, this shows the potential of SPLR packages. I don't know of anyone doing this at present but I'm sure there is a market for this sort of content, especially where the aim is to obtain a click or opt-in rather than a repeat visitor.

      Ivan
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